Board 8 > Zenless Zone Zero Zopic 6 - Much Ado About Season Two

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swordz9 posted...

Does that mean even A Anby, Pulchra and Trigger want it? Guess Ive got a new set to farm and I havent really gotten a single character to an ideal state yet

Yes, EVERY stunner. It is an almost free 30% crit damage buff for your dps, in addition to daze% being better than impact% from shockstar (though you can run that as the 2pc). You just have to make sure your stunner does an EX or Chain before your burst. And build crit rate, though Trigger is doing that anyways.

Oh no thats gonna be a lot of farming, but hey at least my Ellen/Soukaku/Lycaon team should improve after. Im like 10s away from S rank on Shiyu 6 to hit S for all 7.

I just grabbed a set for Lighter that seems to work very well so far.

Finally reached reconstruction 35

*Belle Earrings cost 588264747747648374 dollars*

*Gives game 1* in app store*

What on this team is giving 30 CR to Yi Xuan?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/44447abf.jpg

I'm assuming her have her sig? That's 20% right there. Do you have M1 Yixuan? That makes up the other 10% if so.

She gets another 12% from Yunkui Tales that isn't in that screenshot once you've actually started fighting and done a few moves, too.

Is that not 120% then? I have 80% outside of combat, so I assumed this was 80% +30%.

....If not then I don't know what the point of showing the +30% is here.

Yeah, that's ~122% once you're actually fighting - activate Yunkui Tales by doing a few EX Specials and you'll see +42% there; you're overcapping a good amount. Time to adjust disks and squeeze out some more Crit DMG!

...So the Sig Crit Rate...doesn't show up on the stat screen? That's dumb! I may need to look at some of my other unit builds then!

Well that's one way to help the other Team builds.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/77f223f8.jpg

.....This is also real eye opening to how good Nicole still is, with her getting the higher ranking here.

I also can't express how annoyed I was taking off her engine and still seeing the same CR. My fault for assuming it worked like HSR I guess!

https://youtu.be/DDl9QwUtLGg?si=pLv1knui_d-9oDOT

https://b23.tv/zUU5Vt4

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70968c5f.jpg

The general rule seems to be that the cuter/more fun the demo is the more tragic the teaser is... but honestly I feel like Fufu almost has to be another Burnice where she's actually just a legit ray of sunshine in a dark world. Guess we'll find out soon!

And holy bajesus that clip is wild. I absolutely will not risk not being able to pull Yuzuha so as much as I like Fufu I'm going to have to just pray for an early 50/50 win.

6 S and an A on stage 7 for this cycle so far. I think using Burnice/Jane/Caesar is why I failed the time check so maybe I should try using Evelyn or Soldier 11 for that fight instead or even just swapping Caesar out for Lucy or something. Yixuan just feels like cheating the way Miyabi did.

With all these Mindscapes and her engine, Koleda's time to Stun really is absurdley high.

It's just not worth it with the complete lack of party buffs, which sucks!

swordz9 posted...

6 S and an A on stage 7 for this cycle so far. I think using Burnice/Jane/Caesar is why I failed the time check so maybe I should try using Evelyn or Soldier 11 for that fight instead or even just swapping Caesar out for Lucy or something. Yixuan just feels like cheating the way Miyabi did.

The stage buff triggers on Stun this week so it should be much better for Evelyn than Burnice

Yixuan is definitely the most interesting character to play for me right now and I don't think it's just recency bias...she's so strong she clears easily even though I have no idea what I'm doing against Miasma Thracian, but still feels like you can do a lot of skill based optimization. Feels a lot different from Miyabi who has almost no learning curve. I would LOVE if Yixuan's design is the template for "Void Hunter level" agents going forward.

Yeah, shes a lot of fun. I think my favorite to play is still S Anby, but I feel like she still has a few bugs that need fixing where she gets hit when she shouldnt and doesnt always dash/teleport to the next enemy with her attack. Shes a ton of fun though with all the Aftershock

My only problem is the.....fuck it, the orb spending attack seems super inconsistent. Sometimes it just won't come out, sometimes I start the attack but I guess I pressed it too many times and the attack gets cancelled and I lose the orb.

Yeah it's finnicky. I learned there's some attacks where you can buffer it by just holding down dodge instead. I think it works after both her ults and maybe the final hit of her EX Special combo, the one with wings? So you just hold dodge during those animations and she'll go right into it.

Also it has a normal version you can activate without the orb which is basically not worth using but I kept doing on accident which confused me. The orb just makes it do more damage, gives it a finisher at the end, and adds adrenaline regen which is the main thing you want.

Yeah doing the orb move raw is pretty awkward so I pretty much always "link" it out of her ult or special finisher, which as mentioned above makes it work very smoothly.

The thing is she's so good that even if you're playing like absolute shit you can still do this.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a05f8b57.jpg

The hard counter is real. But why won't you let Pan off the bench? :( Let him cook!

Does make me wonder what the rollout is going to look like in the future of both Rupture agents and Miasma bosses, because the difference for those specific enemies is pretty damn huge.

Unfortunately my ZZZ stocks haven't reached that HSR point where I can just do whatever I want because I have infinite resources, if I build Panda it's gonna hurt, and I know he won't be long term.

If you're leveling him to 50 for the tapes anyways the investment isn't that big beyond that. He just wants his core leveled, any atk% wengine you've got lying around, and you already have spare Astral Voice disks probably. You don't really have to touch his skill levels at all.

Yeah he really doesn't take much at all to get where he needs to be - few days worth of battery tops and while he's not going to be the best at what he does forever, we already know he's at least not getting replaced in 2.1. So that's a few days at worst for the at least 2 months that he's still going to be BiS

Also even if we do get a limited Rupture support soon, we will also get other Rupture agents too who will also need team slots. And if I had to guess, I'd say we get 1 or 2 more Rupture agents before we get a limited support.

Of fucking course the day after I take the free Brimstone, I pull Brimstone on the Standard Banner.

...I guess have two is valuable. One for Ellen, one for Eveleyn.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e4660df5.jpg

Oh OK. That's higher than the Nicole run, and only at Core3 Panda. Interesting.

Oh God the Yuzuha swimsuit in the new beta is bugged and is missing the raccoon and uhhhhhhh

https://streamable.com/avwf7i

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Oh OK. That's higher than the Nicole run, and only at Core3 Panda. Interesting.

No huge surprise there - not only is Pan 100% made for Rupture support, but a lot of folks overlook that Nicole's best asset (her defense shred) does literally nothing for Yixuan! (Rupture agents completely ignore defense, so there's nothing to shred.)

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Oh God the Yuzuha swimsuit in the new beta is bugged and is missing the raccoon and uhhhhhhh

https://streamable.com/avwf7i

Thats how they generate interest in her costume.

Okay, level 45 on temple management done. Now I can actually start saving for the outfit accessories.

Damn how much are the outfit accessories? I only just got to level 25 last night

They're like 4 and 8 million

Also the recurring resource shop only refreshes every 2 weeks? That's so weird it's basically nothing

Lmao the beta changed Alice's kit so she's no longer crit based

Nonsense character

...So now she's an onfield pure Anomoly physical unit?

So just....raw 1 to 1 Jane powercreep?

I don't know anything about her numbers and don't really understand her kit but it kind of seems like it might be? Just going from the tl;drs. Previously she was a weird hybrid of Miyabi + Yanagi (phys), now it sounds like she's a weird hybrid of Evelyn + Vivian? From what I understand she wants field time to build up a meter that converts to banked charges like Evelyn, but then these act like Vivian's ablooms where Alice will do a follow-up from off-field when an anomaly happens.

In a vacuum she just sounds like better Jane, BUT there's some speculation you might actually run Alice and Jane together because Jane's "assaults can crit" buff also applies to the entire team. Also Jane extends Assault's duration which benefits Alice...so with Yuzuha literally monophys might be viable, even if I don't know if that's better for Jane than simply doing Jane/Vivian/Yuzuha.

And assuming they don't randomly change her kit again. Like I said, nonsense character.

Hmmm, so is the thought here then that you're not actually going for Disorders with the Alice and Jane comp, it's just about getting the break with Jane? That actually would be pretty interesting.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Also the recurring resource shop only refreshes every 2 weeks? That's so weird it's basically nothing

You unlock another one that has infinite dennies, so I guess you just get all the limited stuff each period and then dump the rest into dennies.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Hmmm, so is the thought here then that you're not actually going for Disorders with the Alice and Jane comp, it's just about getting the break with Jane? That actually would be pretty interesting.

Alice has a unique type of Assault that can activate Disorder in addition to the normal one so it's kind of both?

JackMan posted...

You unlock another one that has infinite dennies, so I guess you just get all the limited stuff each period and then dump the rest into dennies.

Oh cool I still need all the dennies I can get I have been SCROUNGING, dumped all my bangboo currency and most of my spare z-merits already.

I somehow lost Lycaon's build complete text while trying to get him King of the Mountain Disc Drives and can't figure out how to get it back.

Hmm jstern claims Jufufu is only like a 15% increase over Trigger for Yixuan. Don't know how much I buy that with just that one data point. Doesn't affect my plans at all but maybe people want to now that.

Finally catching up on the big events - this mech event is super great. But it's really weird that this isn't also a permanent event - it even has a poopload of voice acting!

Im almost done with the theater event. Wish Belle talked more in it and didnt have silent lines :(

Aside from that I just have 2 agent stories left to do still I think and that long Tower mission with the Bangboo thats like 1-2 hours. My temple is gonna take a while to hit max level

I completely forgot Battle Tower was even a thing! I guess I'll tackle it last 40 after Ju Fufu comes out.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e813d80e.jpg

https://youtu.be/ftIfHp2h7eg?si=NTCD_6LTygl0ocfF

She's so cute lol

Did my weekly Hollow Zero run with Eve/Lighter/Astra on Ether 8 since two of them are the bonus agents. Pro tip the secret to annihilating Miasma Priest is to take an Ultimate gear and prioritize those Resonia to make an ult spam build. Besides that the strat to get as many extra gear as possible still applies, just avoid the Tag Assist stuff like the plague.

Hopefully this still holds up at the highest difficulties!

Hit lv30 for the temple today. Also working on that Hollow Zero stuff, but your runs can be destroyed by the wrong enemies. Lost my first one with Evelyn, Koleda & Astra because the first boss was fire resistant and did a ton of damage on my failed dodges/parries

Aww triple drops on Drives didnt last nearly long enough. Almost got Lycaons signature W-Engine up to lv60 so theres that I guess.

Holy bajesus what is happening in high intensity Lost Void now? O_O

Dialed it up to Intensity 12 this week running Eve/Lighter/Astra with an ult build. Everything was noticably tankier but nothing too terrible. Until suddenly the zone 2 boss was the Dancers and they do like, extreme upper level Battle Tower levels of damage out of absolutely nowhere. I literally ran out of revives and straight up lost because they were one-shotting agents with the silliest, slightest glancing blows. No idea what that was about, 8/12 was super easy and none of these new modifiers indicate anything near a jump like that - plus it was just that boss!