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ReturnOfDevsman
05/17/25 5:18:51 PM
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Like if you have a something something sword that absorbs the souls of your enemies or something.

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MrResetti
05/17/25 5:30:59 PM
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Huh
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Kisai
05/17/25 5:32:21 PM
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What?

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DrizztLink
05/17/25 5:32:47 PM
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You give money to the homeless.

influence lost with Kreia

You did not give money to the homeless.

influence lost with Kreia

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PMarth2002
05/17/25 5:36:34 PM
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Kisai posted...
What?

Tc is asking if having an in universe justification for Leveling systems is cool or lame.

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MrResetti
05/17/25 5:37:12 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Tc is asking if having an in universe justification for Leveling systems is cool or lame.
Huh
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008Zulu
05/18/25 1:35:32 AM
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Think of hit points as time paid off for learning how to take a hit, doing your cardio, eating the right foods.
Doing more damage as learning where certain creatures have weakspots.
Paying better attention to your surroundings from that time a log swung out from a tree, and shattered your ribs.
Not hitting on everything that has a pulse with the worst pickup lines this side of an Andy Taint scam.

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Rika_Furude
05/18/25 5:02:42 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Tc is asking if having an in universe justification for Leveling systems is cool or lame.
But whats this about soul absorbing swords
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TomClark
05/18/25 5:04:57 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
But whats this about soul absorbing swords

Try not to get killed by them.

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ssjevot
05/18/25 5:24:03 AM
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All I know is whatever Chrono Cross was supposed to be it was the worst leveling system (only bosses let you level except also stats increase after other battles a little sometimes until they stop for every level, encouraging you to fight mooks until you stop getting a state increase after which you should avoid all battles).

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_____Cait
05/18/25 6:07:26 AM
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I think Mega Man Battle Network did well by not leveling you up, but giving you customization items to upgrade Mega Man with buffs and new functions, just like upgrading a PC.

Of course like everything in that series, explaining it is way cooler than how it is actually acknowledged in the game.

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ssjevot
05/18/25 6:12:19 AM
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Battle Network is just really great in general.

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Fiyun
05/18/25 6:13:58 AM
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Boils down to execution, and how society handles it, since I doubt xxxxxxxxx of min-maxers would turn out well, nor only a handful of them lording everything due to caps are restricted due to yyy.

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_____Cait
05/18/25 6:19:49 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Battle Network is just really great in general.

The ideas were really ahead of its time and makes me want a modern remake, seeing all the ideas fully fleshed out. Having a PET would be really cool. Surprised nobody has made anything as strong as it yet,

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Alteres
05/18/25 7:07:23 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
But whats this about soul absorbing swords
I can never tell if people are being serious or trying to be funny on here

if they arent trying to be funny, I cant believe they ever expect people to take them seriously

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pegusus123456
05/18/25 7:13:02 AM
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I quite like it, especially if it's incorporated into the story in some way. Like Prey has neuromods and the entire story is about how they're this revolutionary technology that allows you to instantly learn any skill, but the downside is that if this skill is ever removed, you instantly forget everything that's happened since you acquired it.

It also allows the characters in the game to interact with the mechanic whereas a typical RPG leveling system is usually ignored by the narrative. System Shock 2 has a similar technology to Prey with cyber modules. It's not nearly as focused on, but the fact that there is an in-universe explanation means SHODAN can explicitly reward you with them. And in one instance where you disobey her, she can take them away from you.

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Rika_Furude
05/18/25 7:24:11 AM
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Nvm I woke up more and read more carefully and understand the soul sword thing now my bad
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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
05/18/25 7:40:00 AM
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Soul swords are one of the more logical executions of this.

Series where fantasy dungeons with monsters and appear in our world are becoming more popular too, and they often have level mechanics as a thing.

TBF, I would welcome such a world.


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ReturnOfDevsman
05/18/25 8:20:15 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
But whats this about soul absorbing swords
It's not that uncommon of a trope, but it's only one example.

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ReturnOfDevsman
05/18/25 8:20:56 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Nvm I woke up more and read more carefully and understand the soul sword thing now my bad
Ah, I didn't read this before I replied, lol.

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R_Jackal
05/18/25 8:22:20 AM
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Hate it. It always makes me think the game dev doesn't understand the concept of getting better at something by doing.
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Phantom_Nook
05/18/25 8:50:32 AM
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Kingdom Hearts always has a new justification for Sora to not be as strong in each new game.

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Doe
05/18/25 8:52:25 AM
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"LOVE, too, is an acronym. It stands for Level Of Violence."

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qwerti
05/18/25 8:54:47 AM
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I am reading Greek here I believe

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Tyranthraxus
05/18/25 8:56:06 AM
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The Lumina Converter from Clair Obscur Expedition 33 basically does this.

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Euripides
05/18/25 9:46:53 AM
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How about enemy leveling to match yours?

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Sansoldier
05/18/25 10:50:17 AM
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I rarely see in-universe justifications for leveling up flopping, so I chose that it's cool.

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