Current Events > GOP reconciliation bill fails in committee

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I agree with the logic of give them more cuts and let the swing district Rs either vote it down or lose their jobs.

I fully meant what I said a while back about this being a lesson America needs to learn the hard mf way.

not One Big Beautiful Bill Act,

https://apnews.com/article/republicans-trump-bill-tax-cuts-spending-medicaid-a9f9c0a23cd2a6e7917d5b73f935e1fd

WASHINGTON (AP) In a massive setback, House Republicans failed Friday to push their big package of tax breaks and spending cuts through the Budget Committee, as a handful of conservatives joined all Democrats in a stunning vote against it.
The hard-right lawmakers are insisting on steeper spending cuts to Medicaid and the Biden-era green energy tax breaks, among other changes, before they will give their support to President Donald Trumps beautiful bill. They warn the tax cuts alone would pile onto the nations $36 trillion debt.

The failed vote, 16-21, stalls, for now, House Speaker Mike Johnsons push to have the package approved next week. But the holdout lawmakers vowed to stay all weekend to negotiate changes as the Republican president is returning to Washington from the Middle East.

Something needs to change or youre not going to get my support, said Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas.
Tallying a whopping 1,116 pages, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, named with a nod to Trump, is teetering at a critical moment. Conservatives are holding out for steeper cuts to Medicaid and other programs to help offset the costs of the tax breaks. But at the same time, lawmakers from high-tax states including New York are demanding a deeper tax deduction, known as SALT, for their constituents.

Johnson has insisted Republicans are on track to pass the bill, which he believes will inject a dose of stability into a wavering economy.

Democrats slammed the package, but they will be powerless to stop it if Republicans ultimately unite. They emphasized that millions of people would lose their health coverage if the bill passes while the wealthiest Americans would reap enormous tax cuts. They also said it would increase future deficits.
That is bad economics. It is unconscionable, said Rep. Brendan Boyle, the top Democratic lawmaker on the panel.
The Budget panel is one of the final stops before the package is sent to the full House floor for a vote, which is expected as soon as next week. Typically, the job of the Budget Committee is more administrative as it compiles the work of 11 committees that drew up various parts of the big bill.
But Fridays meeting proved momentous. Republicans hold a slim majority in the House and have just a few votes to spare to advance the measure, including on the Budget Committee.

Four Republican conservatives initially voted against the package Roy and Reps. Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Josh Brecheen of Oklahoma, Rep. Andrew Clyde of Georgia. Then one, Rep. Lloyd Smucker of Pennsylvania switched his vote to no.
The conservative holdouts from the Freedom Caucus are insisting on deeper cuts particularly to Medicaid. They want new work requirements for aid recipients to start immediately, rather than on Jan. 1, 2029, as the package proposes.
Roy complained that the legislation front-loads new tax cuts and spending while backloading the savings.
We are writing checks we cannot cash, and our children are going to pay the price, Roy said.
Sadly, added Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., Im a hard no until we get this ironed out.
At the same time, the New Yorkers have been unrelenting in their demand for a much larger SALT deduction than what is proposed in the bill, which could send the overall cost of the package skyrocketing.
As it stands, the bill proposes tripling whats currently a $10,000 cap on the state and local tax deduction, increasing it to $30,000 for joint filers with incomes up to $400,000 a year.
Rep. Nick LaLota, one of the New York lawmakers leading the SALT effort, said they have proposed a deduction of $62,000 for single filers and $124,000 for joint filers.

The conservatives and the New Yorkers are at odds, each jockeying for their priorities as Johnson labors to keep the package on track to pass the House by Memorial Day and then onto the Senate.
This is always what happens when you have a big bill like this, said Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La. Theres always final details to work out all the way up until the last minute. So were going to keep working. Theres a lot of work to be done.
At its core, the sprawling package extends the existing income tax cuts that were approved during Trumps first term, in 2017, and adds new ones that the president campaigned on in 2024, including no taxes on tips, overtime pay and some auto loans.
It increases some tax breaks for middle-income earners, including a bolstered standard deduction of $32,000 for joint filers and a temporary $500 boost to the child tax credit, bringing it to $2,500.
It also provides an infusion of $350 billion for Trumps deportation agenda and to bolster the Pentagon.

To offset more than $5 million in lost revenue, the package proposes rolling back other tax breaks, namely the green energy tax credits approved as part of President Joe Bidens Inflation Reduction Act. Some conservatives want those to end immediately.
The package also seeks to cover the costs by slashing more than $1 trillion from health care and food assistance programs over the course of a decade, in part by imposing work requirements on able-bodied adults.

Certain Medicaid recipients would need to engage in 80 hours a month of work or other community options to receive health care. Older Americans receiving food aid through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as SNAP, would also see the programs current work requirement for able-bodied participants without dependents extended to include those ages 55-64. States would also be required to shoulder a greater share of the programs cost.
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates at least 7.6 million fewer people with health insurance and about 3 million a month fewer SNAP recipients with the changes.
Mocking the name of the bill, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., called it one big, beautiful betrayal.
To pay for it, Democratic Rep. Morgan McGarvey said, kids in Kentucky will go hungry, nursing homes and hospitals will close, and millions of Americans will be kicked off their health insurance. Its wrong.

It's a game of who are they afraid of more, their constituents who will be mad if Medicaid gets cut or their wealthy donors who will be mad if they don't get their tax cuts extended?

Where did "No taxes on tips, and no taxes on overtime" go?

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They voted against it bc it didn't cut Medicaid enough. Don't hold your breath for anything resembling a good result.

This was basically an apocalyptic bill in terms of deficit spending so thats good news.

Good. I want this bill to fail. It sucks.

Any failed attempt by the Republican party is, by definition, good news for the country.

The hold outs are saying because the bill doesn't cut spending as much as they would like...

LearntoRead posted...

Good. I want this bill to fail. It sucks.

Unfortunately...



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"It's not Evil enough!" is one hell of a reason.

Theyll cave. Theyll decide its bad enough for now and they can make it worse later.

An already awful bill about to get even worse. Great. Welp, I'm dead. If they take an even bigger cut to Medicaid and I lose my insurance, I couldn't pay for any of my medications. I'm already looking to see if any programs that can help out, but there's nothing really left. Without my medicine I won't last a year.

I fucking hate this. It's almost like objectively Democrats are better off supporting the bill before they make it worse, but obviously that will appear as capitulation. The only hope we'd have is that there would be enough moderates in the House/Senate amongst Republicans, but those aren't the ones that voted this bill down, if they even exist (and actually hold office) anymore.

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Obama, Biden and Hilary.

LoZguy709 posted...

I fucking hate this. It's almost like objectively Democrats are better off supporting the bill before they make it worse, but obviously that will appear as capitulation. The only hope we'd have is that there would be enough moderates in the House/Senate amongst Republicans, but those aren't the ones that voted this bill down, if they even exist (and actually hold office) anymore.

I really hope Democrats don't give them a single vote for this horrible bill. You know if even one Democrat votes for it that's going to be enough for the media to call it a "bipartisan" bill.

These Medicaid cuts are going to do so much harm and if Republicans really want to go through with this then they should have to own it politically.

UnsteadyOwl posted...

I really hope Democrats don't give them a single vote for this horrible bill. You know if even one Democrat votes for it that's going to be enough for the media to call it a "bipartisan" bill.

These Medicaid cuts are going to do so much harm and if Republicans really want to go through with this then they should have to own it politically.

I understand why they're opposing it. I just hate the state of things where Democrats will be blamed for being too weak on this either way, whether they deserve it or not. The conundrum is that we let the GOP have control of Congress on top of giving them the presidency (we'll not even get into the courts here...).

It passed

LoZguy709 posted...

I just hate the state of things where Democrats will be blamed for being too weak on this either way, whether they deserve it or not.

What do you mean? All they can really do is vote against it. Any support at all is being too weak, yes.

What happened was the 4 Republican No's were convinced to just not vote, allowing the bill to pass.

That they didn't vote in favor instead implies they didn't get all the changes they want, and may have simply been pressured into compliance, which would be great news for America.

In better news the bill has tough prospects in the House anyway, since if Dems all vote against it the GOP can only afford to lose 2 votes. It's gonna be very difficult to write a bill that gets both the 2 most extreme Republicans and the 2 most vulnerable swing state Republicans to vote for it.