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Enclave posted...

A lot of what you saw in BC was due to split votes between the Liberals and NDP. A lot of ridings that had NDP incumbents swapped to Liberal or Conservative but still had people showing up for the incumbent.

People are idiots remember and don't follow politics particularly well, let alone look at polling to help them determine if they need to vote strategically. The BC provincial election last year was ample proof of how ignorant they can be.

Or: people want NDP policies and not Liberal ones? Lol

...Why am I not surprised by this?
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Humble_Novice posted...

...Why am I not surprised by this?
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sounds on brand

Humble_Novice posted...

...Why am I not surprised by this?
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CPC is based but ML party's PR, reportage, and political commentary is better. They got a seriously fire mailing list.

Humble_Novice posted...

...Why am I not surprised by this?
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Pfft. Amateurs. Here in Britain we have six communist parties. The Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), and the New Communist Party of Britain.

Lillymon posted...

Pfft. Amateurs. Here in Britain we have six communist parties. The Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), and the New Communist Party of Britain.

We actually have 5 parties. We have the left (Liberals), the right (Conservatives), the Michael Bay Party (Bloc), We just want to be included party (Green), and the "I'm best friends with the director Party" (AKA the NDP)

Really surprised that a certain manchild-in-chief hasn't exploded a gasket over the libs retaining power up north yet. If anything, the douche seemed pleased with himself that he helped sink the Tories.

Ivany2008 posted...

We actually have 5 parties. We have the left (Liberals), the right (Conservatives), the Michael Bay Party (Bloc), We just want to be included party (Green), and the "I'm best friends with the director Party" (AKA the NDP)

i hope the NDP recover tho cuz last thing cananda needs is no partying pushing the liberals party like in the UK which sadly has become utter garbage
they threw immigrants and trans people under the bus and one of their MP is pushing to publish news of immigrants committing crimes which will stoke the hate against them even more
Intro2Logic posted...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/22/home-office-foreign-criminals-nationalities-uk
Labour.

Cooper pandering to Farage by ordering publication of foreign criminals nationalities

Cooper pandering to Farage by ordering publication of foreign criminals nationalities
Move expected to lead to league tables showing which nationalities are more associated with particular crimes
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Rajeev Syal Home affairs editor
Tue 22 Apr 2025 14.20 CEST
Migrant charities and MPs have accused Yvette Cooper of pandering to racism and stoking the possibility of riots after the Home Office said it would publish the nationalities of foreign criminals in the UK for the first time.
The home secretary has ordered officials to publish the data, including the crimes that have been committed, by the end of the year. It is expected to lead to league tables of foreign nationals showing which nationalities are more associated with particular crimes.

gikos posted...

hope the NDP recover tho cuz last thing cananda needs is no partying pushing the liberals party like in the UK which sadly has become utter garbage
they threw immigrants and trans people under the bus and one of their MP is pushing to publish news of immigrants committing crimes which will stoke the hate against them even more

I believe if the NDP is able to stick around until the next election (they lose a lot of funding by losing party status IIRC) they'll recover fine. A lot of seats that would normally have gone NDP either went Liberal or conservative to due the nature of this election and the momentum pushing to a lot of vote splitting from the NDP (and NDP having a pretty weak campaign didn't really help)

I fully expect a lot of the seats the NDP lost can go back to NDP in the next election.

Proto_Spark posted...

I believe if the NDP is able to stick around until the next election (they lose a lot of funding by losing party status IIRC) they'll recover fine. A lot of seats that would normally have gone NDP either went Liberal or conservative to due the nature of this election and the momentum pushing to a lot of vote splitting from the NDP (and NDP having a pretty weak campaign didn't really help)

I fully expect a lot of the seats the NDP lost can go back to NDP in the next election.

then i hope it happens and that keeps the liberals on their toes and not go to the right like most centrists liberals are doing it in EU countries

Lillymon posted...

Pfft. Amateurs. Here in Britain we have six communist parties. The Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), and the New Communist Party of Britain.

Please tell me that these parties have all been around long enough to have been the inspiration for Life of Brian's "Judean People's Front / People's Front of Judea" gag.

gikos posted...

then i hope it happens and that keeps the liberals on their toes and not go to the right like most centrists liberals are doing it in EU countries

Liberals are typically much more willing to go left for the NDP than right to court the conservatives, and because the current government the liberals + NDP is enough to reach the 50% +1 threshold to pass stuff, its likely this will continue.

That's not to say the liberals are gonna start moving further left, but we'll be getting things a bit more to the left than we likely would with a liberal majority.

At least historically, this government is much more likely to go left than go right, but we live in strange times so who knows for sure.

Proto_Spark posted...

Liberals are typically much more willing to go left for the NDP than right to court the conservatives, and because the current government the liberals + NDP is enough to reach the 50% +1 threshold to pass stuff, its likely this will continue.

That's not to say the liberals are gonna start moving further left, but we'll be getting things a bit more to the left than we likely would with a liberal majority.

At least historically, this government is much more likely to go left than go right, but we live in strange times so who knows for sure.

guess i shouldn't look at canada's liberals as the liberals i know who are mostly center right in EU that is a good to hear they won't pander to the right like most are these days

gikos posted...

guess i shouldn't look at canada's liberals as the liberals i know who are mostly center right in EU that is a good to hear they won't pander to the right like most are these days

Pandering to the right will most likely kill the momentum they had. Conservatives are muted at the moment. But all eyes on Carney to see if he breaks any public trust.

masterpug53 posted...

Please tell me that these parties have all been around long enough to have been the inspiration for Life of Brian's "Judean People's Front / People's Front of Judea" gag.

Three of them were founded after Life of Brian came out but two others (the Communist Party of Great Britain and the Revolutionary Communist Party) were around at the time and have since dissolved.

So only five at the time. Reality has since become even more ludicrous.

gikos posted...

guess i shouldn't look at canada's liberals as the liberals i know who are mostly center right in EU that is a good to hear they won't pander to the right like most are these days

The Canadian Liberals are definitely more to the left than what you're used to. They're socially left, economically pretty centrist (economically left compared to the USA's idea of centrism) but with pressure from left parties they can tend to get pushed economically more left and they don't tend to get pushed to the right since they don't tend to work with the Conservatives, though occasionally they do when it comes to energy projects but even then it's not just blanket approvals left and right.

Enclave posted...

The Canadian Liberals are definitely more to the left than what you're used to. They're socially left, economically pretty centrist (economically left compared to the USA's idea of centrism) but with pressure from left parties they can tend to get pushed economically more left and they don't tend to get pushed to the right since they don't tend to work with the Conservatives, though occasionally they do when it comes to energy projects but even then it's not just blanket approvals left and right.

glad to know hope the cons break up making them even more weaker in later elections

So, somebody I know has pointed out something fairly interesting.

The Cons still haven't announced what seat Poilievre is going to run for in a byelection. Usually that's decided really quickly. He's probably having trouble finding a safe riding that has a Conservative that's not only willing to step down for him but also is a Conservative that isn't too important to the party who he doesn't need.

My friend said Carney should be stoke the flames a bit by politely saying to the press that he's happy to schedule the byelection as soon as the tories figure out which riding. :P

Where does PP get the idea that he can carpetbag after losing so badly?

Starks posted...

Where does PP get the idea that he can carpetbag after losing so badly?

If he wants to stay on as leader he needs to get a seat otherwise people won't take him particularly seriously.

I hate the idea of single member districts, but to think you can just choose your constituency is lunacy.

Even US House leaders still care about back home.

It's not necessarily THAT easy to pick as noted by the fact that Poilievre really should have said what riding he was going to run in on freakin' Monday or Tuesday at the latest. It's very much a sign of the troubles going on in the party.

edit:

Also should note, I've seen a lot of Conservative voters REALLY mad at Poilievre for blowing his giant lead, even if he runs in a safe riding? It's potentially possible he could still lose which would be absolutely humiliating for him. He already lost one safe riding this election after all.

By default, the Conservative Party is gonna run a "do we keep him" investigation because they lost the election, regardless of blowing the big lead. PP saying he'll continue as leader doesn't really matter if they decide to kick him anyways.

Though if PP decides to fight it, he can split the conservative party into the 2 parties it actually is - which will effectively stop the conservatives from ever holding a majority government again, but will actually be more representative of the weird mismatch of conservative voters.

Proto_Spark posted...

Though if PP decides to fight it, he can split the conservative party into the 2 parties it actually is - which will effectively stop the conservatives from ever holding a majority government again, but will actually be more representative of the weird mismatch of conservative voters.

They're more like 3 parties rather than 2 but yes what you've posted here is in-line with what I've been saying about the apparent civil war brewing in the party.

Enclave posted...

They're more like 3 parties rather than 2 but yes what you've posted here is in-line with what I've been saying about the apparent civil war brewing in the party.

It'll be interesting to see how much they fracture - because in a worst case scenario (for them) they could split into a ton of parties, basically forming regional conservative parties. But that also means they'll effectively never hold government again, so I think a split into effectively "I don't want to vote liberal, but basically them" and "social conservatism" factions is also likely.

Though it'll also be really interesting to see how much a PC split hurts the liberal party. A lot of liberal seats, especially in this election, came from "we don't want to go far-right", and if the conservatives aren't likely to form government, I wonder how many of those seats might stay liberal.

I'm not yet convinced that there is actually going to be a split in the party, though I sincerely hope there is.

The more public the civil war gets the better the odds of a hard split happening and it would be fucking glorious to see.

HojoojoH_2 posted...

CPC is based

the whole sexual harassment concealment from people at the top of the party wasn't a great look tbh

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Hahahahaha. I know this won't be the last we see of him but enjoy this victory.

Lillymon posted...

Pfft. Amateurs. Here in Britain we have six communist parties. The Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (MarxistLeninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (MarxistLeninist), and the New Communist Party of Britain.

Why do they constantly prioritize in fragmentation over consolidation?

Oh, Doug is clapping back from the attack on election night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6o0hlXwFZA

Yes, more of this, MORE! I freakin' called it that there was a civil war brewing, fuck it was so obvious from how election night went.

Seriously, the more public this gets the better.

Love it when all the worst people you know are fighting among each other.

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Doug Ford is a terribly incompetent and corrupt leader. I honestly have no idea how he keeps getting elected.

Enclave posted...

It's not necessarily THAT easy to pick as noted by the fact that Poilievre really should have said what riding he was going to run in on freakin' Monday or Tuesday at the latest. It's very much a sign of the troubles going on in the party.

edit:

Also should note, I've seen a lot of Conservative voters REALLY mad at Poilievre for blowing his giant lead, even if he runs in a safe riding? It's potentially possible he could still lose which would be absolutely humiliating for him. He already lost one safe riding this election after all.

Well well well

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Naw, Ford sucks just doesn't suck as much as Poilievre. He just was smart enough to shift gears away from the Trump style rhetoric when it became VERY obvious that Canada was having none of that shit while Poilievre and the rest of the Maple MAGA kept going hard on the Trump style shit.

This is exactly what we want to see though. More and more of this, just I want them to get vicious and in public. That's the only way we're going to see a hard split happen (super unlikely, just not impossible).

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Ah, I see your point, yes he's definitely done a good job, relatively speaking compared to say Poilievre, of taking a strong leadership position. The Maple MAGA wing of the party sees him as a direct threat, there's been a lot of talk about if Ford may try for the Federal party leadership at some point, the talk has been going on all year even and not just when polls shifted.

Poilievre is making calls to shore up support as Conservatives take stock of election results:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-future-conservatives-take-stock-1.7522939

Caucus sources say Poilievre's leadership is on solid ground even after falling short in Monday's vote

So how long do we all think he has left? I'm going with six months.

With this thread having like 441 posts? I decided to make a dedicated thread for the Con civil war, it's a bit more manageable for people to see.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80975605

Proto_Spark posted...

It'll be interesting to see how much they fracture - because in a worst case scenario (for them) they could split into a ton of parties, basically forming regional conservative parties. But that also means they'll effectively never hold government again, so I think a split into effectively "I don't want to vote liberal, but basically them" and "social conservatism" factions is also likely.

They'd be completely batshit insane, but the formation of Alberta's equivalent to the Bloc would be incredible to see lol.

Lillymon posted...

So how long do we all think he has left? I'm going with six months.

Let's see what happens in the first week. Conservatives haven't made any external announcements at all yet.

Man, Trudeau really unified the right up north. With him gone, they're breaking out the knives vs each other.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-doug-ford-says-poilievres-conservatives-were-told-not-to-help-during/

Mr. Ford, speaking outside the Peel region police headquarters at an announcement focused on strengthening the bail regime, told reporters Wednesday he felt he shouldnt interfere in the federal election. But he said the federal party was instructed not to help him in the February provincial contest, in which his government won a third majority.
Last time I checked, Pierre Poilievre never came out in our election. Matter of fact, him or one of his lieutenants told every one of his members, Dont you dare go out and help the PCs. Isnt that ironic? he said.

Honestly this dude is absolutely cooked lmao

K181 posted...

Man, Trudeau really unified the right up north. With him gone, they're breaking out the knives vs each other.

Oh no.

Anyways.

I actually don't get the hate for Trudeau. He did some good things that have benefitted me at work and my family.

Before he stepped down, I heard all sorts of anti-Trudeau rhetoric from people who would be among the first people (or their wives) on a plane to El Salvador if Poilievre got in. It makes literally zero sense to me.

I love that Poilievre got so unpopular he lost in a conservative stronghold that he held for 20 years. Splitting the Conservative party would be glorious!

joaquintall posted...

Oh no.

Anyways.

I actually don't get the hate for Trudeau. He did some good things that have benefitted me at work and my family.

Before he stepped down, I heard all sorts of anti-Trudeau rhetoric from people who would be among the first people (or their wives) on a plane to El Salvador if Poilievre got in. It makes literally zero sense to me.

I love that Poilievre got so unpopular he lost in a conservative stronghold that he held for 20 years. Splitting the Conservative party would be glorious!

While that may be true, prices of everything were shot through the roof. It got really bad. My 200k home that I sold a couple years ago is now worth close to 260k. It's insane.

Ivany2008 posted...

While that may be true, prices of everything were shot through the roof. It got really bad. My 200k home that I sold a couple years ago is now worth close to 260k. It's insane.

I never noticed housing cost differences... they've always been way out of control on the west coast. And I blame bad loopholes which have existed for decades.

I think PP has consolidated power. There are a lot of loyalists there. I don't think they'll knife him like the last 2 leaders. He still won't be back in the House until the fall though.

After a vote validation recount triggered by the close results, the Liberals have lost the riding of Terrebonne to the Bloc, dropping their final riding count 168.