Current Events > Israel officially ends ceasefire unilaterally, resumes bombing of Gaza

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Kaitouace
03/17/25 10:04:01 PM
#51:


mybbqrules posted...
Plus that whole nagging detail about how RESIDENTS OF GAZA BEGGED US TO VOTE HARRIS.

This was all that mattered. When they were asked, they literally said anyone but Trump.

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2001mark
03/17/25 10:04:40 PM
#52:


Many Deep State Globalists are saying.
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Doe
03/17/25 10:05:12 PM
#53:


How many users here actually didn't vote for Kamala in a competitive state?

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LightSnake
03/17/25 10:06:30 PM
#54:


Bombings resumin and Trump wants them fully exiled

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KajeI
03/17/25 10:07:21 PM
#55:


Doe posted...
How many users here actually didn't vote for Kamala in a competitive state?
Idk, how many people that would've voted for Kamala did they dissuade with all their grandstanding?

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IceCreamOnStero
03/17/25 10:08:32 PM
#56:


havean776 posted...
I like Harris supported a two state solution.
Supporting any kind of solution is contradictory with sponsoring Israel's genocide.

Any actual supporter of a one or two state solution would immediately end all weapon supplies to Israel and immediately stop fighting against Israel facing diplomatic consequences.

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Doe
03/17/25 10:08:58 PM
#57:


KajeI posted...
Idk, how many people that would've voted for Kamala did they dissuade with all their grandstanding?
On CE? A pretty easy 0. Not much bigger a number than that on the national scale, based on exit polling.

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Sayoria
03/17/25 10:09:44 PM
#58:


The people of Dearborn must be happy!

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HojoojoH_2
03/17/25 10:16:59 PM
#59:


mybbqrules posted...
And who are you, clear alt that I've never seen here before today that someone just dusted off?

A thousand karma on a 20 year old account? Whose your main, then we can talk.

incredibly annoying that I have to explain myself, but:

Yes, this is an old account. It's also the only one I've ever had (besides the first HojoojoH, which came before HojoojoH_2). Perhaps it's somehow hard to believe, but I haven't been active here nonstop for two decades. I went and lived a lifea few lives, actuallybefore coming back late last year.

I'm fascinated by the paranoia of alt accounts, though. Who hurt you?

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havean776
03/17/25 10:17:02 PM
#60:


IceCreamOnStero posted...
Supporting any kind of solution is contradictory with sponsoring Israel's genocide.

Any actual supporter of a one or two state solution would immediately end all weapon supplies to Israel and immediately stop fighting against Israel facing diplomatic consequences.
She never had a chance to do any of that.

I wanted to give her a chance. You didn't.

Your victory is what we are now seeing.

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mybbqrules
03/17/25 10:18:45 PM
#61:


Doe posted...
On CE? A pretty easy 0. Not much bigger a number than that on the national scale, based on exit polling.
Yes, because I'm sure they weren't "Killer Kamala"ing it up all over their IRL social circles. Totally.

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metralo
03/17/25 10:19:12 PM
#62:


KajeI posted...
Idk, how many people that would've voted for Kamala did they dissuade with all their grandstanding?

do you feel good about giving trump the keys

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mybbqrules
03/17/25 10:20:51 PM
#63:


HojoojoH_2 posted...
I'm fascinated by the paranoia of alt accounts, though. Who hurt you?
The unbroken string of thousands of disingenuous troll alts that have plagued these boards for decades.

And you fall into that category, because you just popped up and are already making trolly posts.


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KajeI
03/17/25 10:21:03 PM
#64:


Doe posted...
On CE? A pretty easy 0. Not much bigger a number than that on the national scale, based on exit polling.

I don't trust polls on politics because the overwhelming majority of this country is fucking stupid, politically ignorant, and completely willing to lie to save face. Plus I frankly don't think most of your average know-nothing voters even gets picked up for those polls in the first place. But if one person who was going to vote for the better option anyway managed to turn off even one person from voting for her because who the fuck wants to support a genocide, then I'd say the incessant bitching wasn't worth it. She sure as she didn't gain votes from it after all.

"I didn't do nothin'!" they claim after spending months pushing Killer Kamala and Genocide Joe shit, to the obvious immediate and future detriment of everyone they claim(ed) to care about.

As far as I'm concerned they showed their true faces when their response to the proof that the Gazans, in Gaza, wanted ANYONE over Trump was "None of that changes my mind about anything I said" after straight up saying that the Gazans wouldn't have preferred Kamala, all to desperately try and claim the moral high ground built over the Gazans graves because that's all their actions have left them with.

Even now, months later, they're still completely unrepentant and refuse to take any kind of accountability.

metralo posted...
do you feel good about giving trump the keys
Idk, do you feel good about what all the people who poisoned the well they drink from for months on end got in the end?

Because I'm not one of the people that did anything to dissuade anyone that could be converted from voting for the clearly better option, because I'm not a fucking moron and I know that the months before the election is the WORST time to be shitting on "your own" side if you want them to actually win. Can you say the same?

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DrizztLink
03/17/25 10:26:31 PM
#66:


KajeI posted...
Idk, do you feel good about what all the people who poisoned the well they drink from for months on end got in the end?

Because I'm not one of the people that did anything to dissuade anyone that could be converted from voting for the clearly better option, because I'm not a fucking moron and I know that the months before the election is the WORST time to be shitting on "your own" side if you want them to actually win. Can you say the same?
I think metralo was being facetious.

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KajeI
03/17/25 10:29:29 PM
#67:


DrizztLink posted...
I think metralo was being facetious.
I'll be honest, I've had people here say basically the same thing to me and others for pointing this shit out, so I can't tell. If so, my bad.

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DrizztLink
03/17/25 10:30:07 PM
#68:


KajeI posted...
I'll be honest, I've had people here say basically the same thing to me and others for pointing this shit out, so I can't tell. If so, my bad.
It'd be consistent with how he'd been posting in here so far, at any rate.

I could always be wrong.

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Umbreon
03/17/25 10:49:01 PM
#69:


Protip: Anyone who can "talked out" of doing the right thing because someone was rude to them on the internet? They were never going to do it anyway.

It takes a deeply tragic level of pathetic to have your presidental vote based on what a random internet person says to you.

Incidentally, isn't it funny how that argument is never used on Trump voters? For some reason, they can say the most horrible shit and it will never change anyone's mind.

But if one Dem/Left voter says something even mildly rude to someone, "I'll just have to vote Trump to teach them a lesson!"

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name_unknown
03/17/25 10:59:04 PM
#70:


Sayoria posted...
The people of Dearborn must be happy!
well the mayor of Dearborn Heights is. He helped his community fall for Trump hook line and sinker

https://www.michiganpublic.org/podcast/stateside/2025-03-13/stateside-podcast-trump-turns-to-michigan-for-u-s-ambassadors

In the midst of nominating U.S. ambassadors to foreign nations, President Donald Trump looked to two of Michigans mayors.
Trump announced last Friday that he nominated Amer Ghalib, current mayor of Hamtramck, to serve as ambassador to Kuwait. He announced on Tuesday that Dearborn Heights mayor Bill Bazzi is his pick for ambassador to Tunisia.
Both these men endorsed Trumps recent presidential campaign. Niraj Warikoo, a Detroit Free Press reporter, joined Stateside to discuss the two nominees' political backgrounds.
Hamtramck spans about two square miles. The city is now home to the highest percentage of immigrants among all cities in Michigan. The city was once majority Polish, but today, many residents have roots in Yemen and Bangladesh. Now, Ghalib serves as Hamtramcks first non-Polish mayor.
Before running for mayor, Ghalib attended Ross Universitys medical school in 2021, but it is disputed whether or not he graduated with a medical degree, Warikoo said. Ghalib was also active in issues related to Yemen, and as part of the Sunni community, Ghalib frequently meets with mosque leaders.
In his mayoral campaign, Ghalib supported a ban on flying LGBTQ, religious, ethnic and political flags on city government property. He also supported increasing diversity in City Hall. Warikoo noted that Ghalib has since followed through on both of those promises.
Ghalib received pushback from Hamtramcks LGBTQ community after city council voted on the flag ban in 2023, Warikoo said.
They spoke out at city council meetings because there is an LGBTQ presence in Hamtramck, Warikoo said. It's been there for years. One thing that people say in defense of the conservatives in Hamtramck is that other cities took similar moves, but they didn't get as much as of a national outrage.
Ghalib once referred to Saddam Hussein, who invaded Kuwait in 1990, as a martyr, according to the conservative Middle East Forum.
"I'm not sure if he's changed his views, Warikoo said. I think he has strong views about Yemen. And according to him, the intervention of the West sometimes has caused problems in the Arab world. It is the context in which he was talking about things like that, but how it may affect his relation with Kuwait, I'm not sure.
Nominations for ambassador require Senate confirmation. If Ghalib is confirmed and leaves Hamtramck, the next mayor of the city would be Hamtramck Mayor Pro Tem Khalil Refai.
Bazzi has served as the mayor of Dearborn Heights since January 2021 when he was elected with 72% of the vote. He immigrated to the U.S. from Lebanon at 10 years old, and since graduated from Fordham School. Before serving as mayor, Bazzi served in the U.S. Marines and worked for Ford Motor Company, Warikoo said.
Warikoo highlighted some of the tensions in Dearborn Heights' city leadership. In December, Bazzi appointed the first Arab-American and Muslim police chief in Dearborn Heights after some in the community voiced their desire for greater Arab American representation in the police department and in City Hall. Just a few weeks ago, however, the police chief was allegedly forced out and replaced.
Some white police officers also filed a lawsuit alleging bias against white people by Arab American city council members.
In Dearborn Heights, theres a concern, Warikoo said. As Arab Americans try to get more political power, they feel that there should be more representation and there's an underrepresentation. The other side says, Well, you have to go by the rules of tenure, and the rules of We were here before and we have a right to be promoted and become police chief.
If Bazzi is confirmed as ambassador to Tunisia and leaves Dearborn Heights, the City Council will vote for the new mayor to replace Bazzi.
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JoCrazy
03/17/25 10:59:31 PM
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FFTHEWINNER
03/17/25 11:01:45 PM
#73:


kage_53 posted...
Wouldnt have mattered anyway. Netanyahu was still going to continue engaging in ethnic cleansing.
I very sadly agree. I personally believe Netenyaho would have broken the ceasefire regardless of who is president.

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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:04:17 PM
#74:


Derailing every topic about Israel, bashing people who criticized Biden/Kamala, at this point is not helpful.

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Tyranthraxus
03/17/25 11:07:07 PM
#75:


JoCrazy posted...
Derailing every topic about Israel, bashing people who criticized Biden/Kamala, at this point is not helpful.

You know what else isn't helpful?

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Umbreon
03/17/25 11:08:47 PM
#76:


FFTHEWINNER posted...
I very sadly agree. I personally believe Netenyaho would have broken the ceasefire regardless of who is president.

He would have, because Netenyaho is a monster. There's a reason why he wanted Trump to win over her though. Kamala could be pressured into offering some level of resistance.

Where as Trump is rooting for the genocide.

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havean776
03/17/25 11:10:12 PM
#77:


JoCrazy posted...
Derailing every topic about Israel, bashing people who criticized Biden/Kamala, at this point is not helpful.
Sort of like bashing Harris every day when she tries to stand up to Trump?

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Akuryu
03/17/25 11:11:37 PM
#78:


JoCrazy posted...
Derailing every topic about Israel, bashing people who criticized Biden/Kamala, at this point is not helpful.
No, but it just feels so goddamn good.
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Umbreon
03/17/25 11:11:40 PM
#79:


havean776 posted...
Sort of like bashing Harris every day when she tries to stand up to Trump?


Ah, but that WAS helpful...

For Trump.

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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:13:45 PM
#80:


havean776 posted...
Sort of like bashing Harris every day when she tries to stand up to Trump?
She ran a horrible campaign, that's not our fault

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Deej
03/17/25 11:14:30 PM
#81:


JoCrazy posted...
She ran a horrible campaign, that's not our fault
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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:15:14 PM
#82:


Deej posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/78d36d13.jpg
Tim Walz is even bashing it

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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:16:42 PM
#83:


She literally campaigned with Liz & Dick Cheney lol

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havean776
03/17/25 11:17:01 PM
#84:


JoCrazy posted...
She ran a horrible campaign, that's not our fault
You ran a terrible message and now are stuck with Trump.
That's not our fault.

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Deej
03/17/25 11:17:34 PM
#85:


JoCrazy posted...
Tim Walz is even bashing it
And the everyday bashing was helpful for the candidate that you (ostensibly) wanted to win because...?

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Umbreon
03/17/25 11:19:28 PM
#86:


If you constantly went "Genocide Joe!" "Killer Kamala" and said almost nothing about Trump ("Both sides are equally bad" doesn't count), the quality of Kamala's campaign neither excuses or justifies your behavior.

Trying to deflect blame if you did that would suggest you're only upset at being shamed.

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Dungeater
03/17/25 11:20:47 PM
#87:


i do question why the same people in every thread keep posting the "but she had to earn my vote" and other one liners

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Umbreon
03/17/25 11:21:39 PM
#88:


Dungeater posted...
i do question why the same people in every thread keep posting the "but she had to earn my vote" and other one liners

A coping mechanism for the despair of what's going on and the inability to meaningfully do anything to stop it.

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Dungeater
03/17/25 11:22:58 PM
#89:


i see

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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:23:53 PM
#90:


Deej posted...
And the everyday bashing was helpful for the candidate that you (ostensibly) wanted to win because...?
Constructive criticism in hopes they ran a better campaign

They were trying to win over the right, halted things that worked to not upset republicans, working for the donors, etc etc etc

They needed a populist agenda/campaign.

We were pointing out what Biden and then Harris was doing was not going to win them the election.

Even with the criticisms, we told people to vote against Trump.

Dont blame us for Biden & then Harris failing. Thats on them. They could have gotten more people out to vote.

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Necronmon
03/17/25 11:24:06 PM
#91:


Yah, the bitter truth is that unless any of us randomly get super powers we are at the mercy of monsters with slimmer hope by the day of anything good for a long, long time.
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Tom_Joad
03/17/25 11:25:14 PM
#92:


2001mark posted...
Many Deep State Globalists are saying.

"Globalists"?

What are you trying to say, here? Spit it out.

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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:25:19 PM
#93:


Umbreon posted...
If you constantly went "Genocide Joe!" "Killer Kamala" and said almost nothing about Trump ("Both sides are equally bad" doesn't count), the quality of Kamala's campaign neither excuses or justifies your behavior.

Trying to deflect blame if you did that would suggest you're only upset at being shamed.

Ive been bashing Trump every day for like 10 years. Said nothing about Trump? GTFOH

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havean776
03/17/25 11:26:17 PM
#94:


JoCrazy posted...
Even with the criticisms, we told people to vote against Trump.

No you didn't.

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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:27:34 PM
#95:


havean776 posted...
No you didn't.
Yes the fuck I did

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Deej
03/17/25 11:30:21 PM
#96:


JoCrazy posted...
Constructive criticism in hopes they ran a better campaign

They were trying to win over the right, halted things that worked to not upset republicans, working for the donors, etc etc etc

They needed a populist agenda/campaign.

We were pointing out what Biden and then Harris was doing was not going to win them the election.

Even with the criticisms, we told people to vote against Trump.

Dont blame us for Biden & then Harris failing. Thats on them. They could have gotten more people out to vote.
Was "Killer Kamala" part of the constructive criticism, or something else?

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havean776
03/17/25 11:30:48 PM
#97:


JoCrazy posted...
Yes the fuck I did
When?

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JoCrazy
03/17/25 11:31:10 PM
#98:


Deej posted...
Was "Killer Kamala" part of the constructive criticism, or something else?
I never said that.

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Umbreon
03/17/25 11:32:32 PM
#99:


JoCrazy posted...
Ive been bashing Trump every day for like 10 years. Said nothing about Trump? GTFOH


If my statement doesn't apply to you, there's no reason to be upset over it.

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Board_hunter567
03/17/25 11:35:30 PM
#100:


KajeI posted...
Even now, months later, they're still completely unrepentant and refuse to take any kind of accountability.
Unless there's data you can share which proves otherwise, Gaza was completely irrelevant to the swing states which cost Kamala the election. Everything points to concerns over "the economy" and immigration. Support for Ukraine, abortion, and trans rights had a bigger impact than Gaza, but because it was the one issue Democrats were split on all the ire is directed towards the inconsequential number of protest votes from California, New York, and a single district in Michigan.

On the topic of accountability, people were sounding the alarm since 2021 and labeled "doomers" for it. Nobody wanted to take the idea that Trump would be running again seriously. Nobody wanted to believe that people were still willing to overwhelmingly vote for him. Nobody wanted to listen to the polls that showed Democrats were in big trouble. Nobody wanted to hear that Biden shouldn't make a bid for reelection. Why did it take big donors calling up Chuck and Nancy for people to finally wake up?

I say this not to excuse anyone who did decide to not vote for Kamala solely because of Gaza, I say it because Democrats have learned absolutely nothing about why they keep losing elections which is made all the more frustrating when Obama won the presidency so handily in 2008 and 2012.

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Tyranthraxus
03/17/25 11:36:08 PM
#101:


Dungeater posted...
i do question why the same people in every thread keep posting the "but she had to earn my vote" and other one liners

Because trying to have actual discussion about this topic is pointless. Everything that can be said about this topic has been said. Mockery otoh never goes out of style.

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