Poll of the Day > I'm actually in love with Palworld

(+) Yeah! (+)

It's nearly inconceivable, given that I generally don't like these never-ending-beta survival/builder games and I greatly dislike the Pokemon games(although the Pokemon themselves are cool).

This game has a fantastic gameplay loop and is actually fun to play. It never feels like there's nothing to do and the open world is both greatly varied and utilized well.

It's a legitimately good game, beyond the core "Ha-ha-pokemonz-with-gunz" meme and I can't put it down.

The monster designs are pretty good too, but Pokemon proper has set that bar pretty low for a long time now.

Everything about Pokemon has been a low bar for a long time now besides fan support

Honestly that's what makes me hate it, no offense game freak devs (actually yes offense)

Palworld did what Pokmon has been failing to do for a while: give pokmon something interesting to do besides battling.

My prediction was that the next big Pokmon thing was going to be a Pokmon farming sim like Stardew Valley that focuses on the companionship with the 'mons themselves. That would PRINT money.

This is pretty close to that with the pals simultaneously able to be trained and using pals as automation.

Palworld is pretty ingenious tbqh.

VioletZer0 posted...

My prediction was that the next big Pokmon thing was going to be a Pokmon farming sim like Stardew Valley that focuses on the companionship with the 'mons themselves. That would PRINT money.

Nah, farming sim where you can put the Pokemon to work. Sort of like how you can use the Junimos as a slave force to harvest all your crops.

Have Pokemon be able to do different things based on their affinity. So Rock-types can mine, Grass-types can farm, Water-types fish, etc. Then if you do a mine dive, instead of fighting monsters yourself, you pull out the 'mons to do it for you. Or conversely, you still fight, but the 'mons act as support powers and heal you, buff you, debuff the enemy, or deal extra damage.

Honestly if there were a factory building game around pokemon, I'd probably play it.
Little conveyor belts of rocks being chiseled away into bricks or smelting ore or whatever.

VioletZer0 posted...

This is pretty close to that with the pals simultaneously able to be trained and using pals as automation

and it printed pocketpair a hell of a lot of money

When Palworld first came out, I literally spent over twelve hours a day playing it nonstop for a good month. It's an incredibly fun game. I haven't played it since, though, but I've been meaning to get back into it with the updates.

Agreed, it's pretty great. I played it a lot on release, took a break, then got rehooked on it.

So pokemon but you want to play as team rocket.

dedbus posted...

So pokemon but you want to play as team rocket.

It's a confusing dynamic. For the most part your just capturing wild Pals like any Pokemon trainer would capture Pokemon. You use them for battle like Pokemon, too. But you can also use them for labor. But it's implied that they like doing the labor for you, or are compelled to through the "mind control" of the Pal Spheres, which sticks a wrench in the morality.

Then you have the concept of Pal "Poaching". But what does this entail? There's a Free Pal Alliance (essentially Palworld PETA) that advocates for the freedom of Pals, but they also have their own morality issues involving their actions. You have the Syndicate who are painted as raiders who set up camps and kill every Pal in sight, but also capture them and lock them in cages for some reason. But that's not far from your own actions either. There are wildlife sanctuaries that are paid for by the Free Pal Alliance that are meant to be off limits to your character, too, and you do get a bounty if you're found capturing or even stepping foot on them. So there is a sense of law and order, even if very vague.

The reality is that the game is still in Early Access and not all aspects of story are ironed out. Like, there's not even an end goal yet. I really find it less appropriate to compare the game to Pokemon when it should be compared to ARK.

Palworld will never be as famous as Pokemon. Keep dreaming with your dead game.

Sonicplys posted...

Palworld will never be as famous as Pokemon. Keep dreaming with your dead game.

43k concurrent steam players 24 hour peak is nowhere close to "dead."

Sonicplys posted...

Palworld will never be as famous as Pokemon. Keep dreaming with your dead game.

What is this fucking salt lmao

Anyways, I would still compare it more to Pokemon, even if they contrast in more ways than they share common elements.

I haven't played ARK, but my impression of that game from it's pre-early access days is that it was always intended to be "Everything-and-the-kitchen-sink: The Game"

Whereas Palworld from the very start was conceptualized as an obvious satirical take on Pokemon.

Even though they share genres, Palworld will always be indirectly linked to Pokemon.

I spent yesterday building my second base and it's going strong.

I've got three incubators working simultaneously and that's been the best thing I've done for myself all week.

Sonicplys posted...

Palworld will never be as famous as Pokemon. Keep dreaming with your dead game.

"Fame" is a poor measure of worth. It's how insecure people try to justify their life choices by attaching them to what they perceive as the "in thing".

Just play what you enjoy, and stop worrying so much about whether or not other people's fun is "valid" or not. You'll be a happier person that way.



Salrite posted...

But it's implied that they like doing the labor for you, or are compelled to through the "mind control" of the Pal Spheres, which sticks a wrench in the morality.

To be fair, even in Pokemon you're basically using technology to trap and enslave wild animals, and then forcing them to cockfight for your own amusement. You kind of have to ignore the real world implications entirely if you don't want to be completely overcome by moral quandaries.

(And that's before we start asking moral and ethical questions about a culture that sends its children out unsupervised and unchaperoned to wander across the countryside before they've even reached puberty, challenging random strangers to fights, and having the losers forced to hand over their lunch money to the winner like some insane high school bullying. Or having those same children try and hunt down insanely dangerous wild animals that can literally shoot lightning, fire, and ice, psychically influence minds, grant wishes, or rewrite time and space.)

The anime tries very hard to try and sanitize those sorts of elements, and to justify the whole thing, but it's all incredibly sketchy.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

To be fair, even in Pokemon you're basically using technology to trap and enslave wild animals, and then forcing them to cockfight for your own amusement. You kind of have to ignore the real world implications entirely if you don't want to be completely overcome by moral quandaries.

This is why I like Palworld. They at least make an attempt to acknowledge the exploitation.

Also, I believe it was Black/White that brought up this dilemma but quickly handwaved it away as "Pokemon respect humans and WANT to coexist with them. They love battling each other for your amusement!"

Krow_Incarnate posted...

I spent yesterday building my second base and it's going strong.

I've got three incubators working simultaneously and that's been the best thing I've done for myself all week.

I always build my second base as my main production base on a perfectly flat circular cliffside on the west side of the yellow mountains. It has a bunch of iron nodes in the center that keep respawning and it's almost always the first place taken on multiplayer servers.

Salrite posted...

I always build my second base as my main production base on a perfectly flat circular cliffside on the west side of the yellow mountains. It has a bunch of iron nodes in the center that keep respawning and it's almost always the first place taken on multiplayer servers.

I'm pretty sure that's right where I built it. I had to make a logging site pretty quickly due to the lack of immediate access to trees. But it's a crap ton of flat land that made for an infinitely better location for the expedition hub, which I previously had to build on TOP of my other base and was actually inaccessible.

I made the mistake of building my first base right on the ruins where you start the game.

By the time I realized how bad of a mistake that was, it was already too far along to be worth dismantling and moving. Plus, I made it work in a way that's kind of neat.

Krow_Incarnate posted...

I made the mistake of building my first base right on the ruins where you start the game.

I built mine on the cliffside nearby and ended up making a wooden skyscraper of sorts to get most of the production sites to fit lol

Sonicplys posted...

Palworld will never be as famous as Pokemon. Keep dreaming with your dead game.

Why does it need to be as famous as Pokemon? Are you incapable of enjoying something unless you know that millions of other people are enjoying it at the same time?

@Sonicplys defend thyself

Krow_Incarnate posted...

I'm pretty sure that's right where I built it. I had to make a logging site pretty quickly due to the lack of immediate access to trees. But it's a crap ton of flat land that made for an infinitely better location for the expedition hub, which I previously had to build on TOP of my other base and was actually inaccessible.

I made the mistake of building my first base right on the ruins where you start the game.

By the time I realized how bad of a mistake that was, it was already too far along to be worth dismantling and moving. Plus, I made it work in a way that's kind of neat.

I build my first aesthetic base down at the edge of the cliff at the bottom of that waterfall at the beginning, and I just use my third option as a mobile base for temporary ore collection or whatever. I don't know if the new updates have added options for more bases though. I did see I was able to upgrade my base level further now, but I wasn't seeing any added benefits.

Wow, Sonic really triggered ya'll!

Salrite posted...

Wow, Sonic really triggered ya'll!

He triggered himself.

If you love it so much, why don't you marry it???

Jen0125 posted...

If you love it so much, why don't you marry it???

I volunteer to be a bridesman.

Jen0125 posted...

If you love it so much, why don't you marry it???

I'll be Mr. Salrite Palworld!

Jen0125 posted...

If you love it so much, why don't you marry it???

With the kind of love and care I put into my bases, I might as well >_>'

I just unlocked my third base and have started putting the finishing touches on it.

At level 35, I'm kicking myself for just now realizing that I can build an ore mine.

You got me starting it up again for the first time since launch.

I've just unlocked my third base as well. I think I'm over the hump that I do of restarting the game every day because I get overwhelmed with how much I've done and want to micro-manage the early game better. But now I'm at the point where I'm really struggling to make my base sustainable. It's really difficult right now for me to keep up with food production. I'll go out and hunt down like 80 mushrooms and make 80 marinated mushrooms for the base, then go out again to collect more and when I get back, everyone's gobbled them all up. I even have my base set to Relaxed Work.

Speaking of, I've found out that there's pretty much zero difference in work speed between Relaxed and Standard Work settings and with Relaxed I never have to worry about sanity depletion. There's barely any difference with Super Hard Work, either so I think I'll just leave them on Relaxed.

I've recently placed down six plots of wheat, though. So I should at least start to produce flour for jam buns. I think the thing I need to do is actually go out and get better Pals.

Food is weird as hell to me. I'll have long periods of time where a base is perfectly self-sufficient with plenty of food to go around, just to come back and find that my pals are starving, with all of the food supplies completely depleted.

I dun get it

I will say that I was much smarter about building my third base(I thankfully got progressively smarter with all 3). It's a straight up 4 story fortress with more than enough room in the courtyard for more plantations and supply deposits.

I even built a three-floor stable outside the main building.

I think I do remember it getting much easier to keep up with after a certain point last time I played, so I just gotta keep at it. I remember settling on massive amounts of salad to sustain my bases once I got tomato and lettuce plantations made.

Also really like the new update that came out. I thought it was just going to be crossplay and a couple fixes to bugs I never see. I've been looking forward to vanity slots, and there's a bunch of new QoL updates. New achievements, too!

A ranch with 4 Chikipis inside usually takes care of my bases' food needs, though in one specific base one of the pals would just get stuck somewhere and starve to death anyways lol

Haven't really bothered with the other plantations besides the berry one or most of the recipes; just made a bunch a fried eggs for the road and let the pals eat the eggs/berries. I do recall some of the food/ingredients being important for breeding so I'll have to get on that eventually.

did they ever do anything with the deku tree island yet

i know you could get there, since you could just fly over the barrier, but when you get to the island it's just a barren, low poly, non finished placeholder

ConfusedTorchic posted...

did they ever do anything with the deku tree island yet

No; IIRC that's the among the last things they'll complete before the full game release.

The "Perdtree"

Blue_Thunder posted...

A ranch with 4 Chikipis inside usually takes care of my bases' food needs, though in one specific base one of the pals would just get stuck somewhere and starve to death anyways lol

I actually gave this a try and you're definitely right! I dumped four of them in a ranch earlier game and stockpiled eggs and it really held me over for a long time. I think the real thing is that fried eggs take so much less time to make than anything so I can just dump a thousand of them in the feed box and it'll last weeks. Meanwhile my jam toast can barely keep up with consumption because by the time I'm finished cooking one, two or three have been eaten by Pals.

I was able to solve my food problems finally with four plantations; two berry, one wheat, one tomato. That's given me a ridiculous amount of food to go round.

In other news, I have an alien pal who seems so much better than the others and whenever he comes out, I can't help but think, "Sic 'em boy!".

I recently got around to taking some pictures of my base. It's gone through considerable renovations since these were taken, but those pictures will have to wait.

https://imgur.com/a/sTp4kRC

Once again, these pictures are outdated(I've since unlocked glass structures), but here are some photos of the first renovation:

https://imgur.com/a/dIpfdke

I have access to glass structures now too and I want to figure out a good design with them. They're new since the last time I've played. But I don't exactly want to build my entire structure with them. Think they'd work best paired with Metal Structures once I get them.

That's exactly what I did with the stone.

I'll grab a pic real quick.

https://imgur.com/a/ztcnB4c

When I originally built my third base, I got carried away and couldn't help but wonder if I went overboard.

Apparently not.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ea17d506.jpg

And I STILL had to build more, because the game's constantly like, "You need to go bigger." and I'm like, "FINE, I'll GO HIGHER!!!"

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cbcbb281.jpg

That's cool, I should move my base to a multi-tiered landscape like this.

I recently tried using the glass structures, applying accents. It looks cool, but I really hate how the reflections work on them, or rather, magnify your camera onto it. It looks stupid and makes no sense.

Also, have you been getting issues with Pal AI in your bases? It seemed to be working fine when I started playing again at first, but after the crossplay update, when I reload the game all my workstations will say they're inaccessible despite having been just fine when I built them and none of my Pals will use them unless I manually pick them up and throw them at it. The furnaces and plantations and ranch are out in the open so they've been fine, but my manufacturing is inside my house and they refuse to use them. They also refuse to use their beds anymore for some reason.

I'm only playing the last build and not the most recent one, but base AI still needs some work.

I do get messages telling me that such-and-such can't reach a workstation all the time, but they're inevitably able to.

I mostly ignore it.

I'm pretty sure your bases operate on an algorithm once you're far away enough from them anyways.

Krow_Incarnate posted...

I'm pretty sure your bases operate on an algorithm once you're far away enough from them anyways.

You see, that's what I thought because they were doing work while I was away from my base. So while it was still very annoying, it was still doable. But I restarted and now they won't even do that anymore. I think it might have to do with the terrain I built my house on, despite having clear access with stairs. I built it at the ore deposits across the bridge from the Chillet boss, surrounded the perimeter with structures. I had to work around the rocky terrain but there is no visual sign of obstruction.

My other base that I have pretty much fully open on flat terrain has much fewer issues, if even at all. I do seem to have issues with the "direction" that certain structures are placed because the game doesn't display what end is the front on things like beds and production lines. So Pals will clip through walls or just not use them.

Seemed to solve my pathing issues by bringing the stairs to my buildings out away from uneven terrain. Despite being well above without any clipping, Pals still couldn't navigate them. Now that the stairs are over flat terrain they can work it. Shouldn't be a problem, but it is what it is and I found a solution.

That's annoying. Stairs and second+ story levels seem to have buggy pathing in general, I've noticed. Hopefully that gets cleaned up before release.

It's also ridiculous that bipedal pals can't use ladders.