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saspa 03/06/25 9:03:50 AM #1: |
How does Captain Marvel 1 make a billion but Captain Marvel 2 doesn't also make at least close to that. The corona pandemic didn't stop other movies from being box office success --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 03/06/25 9:05:37 AM #2: |
Most people are just burnt out, it seems. Just too much with the TV shows and movies. Should have made the shows a separate universe imo --- The large print giveth And the small print taketh away ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dhampire1 03/06/25 9:06:15 AM #3: |
I kinda consider the Marvels as the mcus low point you literally had humor for grade schoolers, a Disney princess gown dance sequence, adults playing patty cake, bad cgi at times and many scenes of cute kittens eating people then to barf them up because its funny it felt like something 10 year olds would make and find cool and funny. It was hard to take serious, especially some of the lines Kamala would say about her obsession love for Captain Marvel. I'm not saying the first was a great movie, but it didnt feel like a movie that treated their audience like complete idiots ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 03/06/25 9:07:14 AM #4: |
Captain Marvel 1 follows up the teaser from Avengers Infinity War as Marvel being Nick Fury's ultimate end of the world emergency contact. Then at the start of Endgame she tells the avengers "fuck off I have my own problems" and is absent from most of the movie. Way less motivation to see The Marvels, therefore --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 03/06/25 9:08:25 AM #5: |
Brie upset the incels --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/062sANy.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 03/06/25 9:09:45 AM #6: |
Movie-going was different pre-Covid --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 03/06/25 9:10:29 AM #7: |
Well I saw the first one and haven't seen the second one and I imagine I'm not a unique snowflake in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 03/06/25 9:10:38 AM #8: |
Captain Marvel was about a newcomer, in a story that hadn't concluded yet. Captain Marvel 2 was a sequel about a character people already knew they didn't like, in a story that concluded three years prior. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 03/06/25 9:10:51 AM #9: |
MCU burnout after the glut of TV shows, I'm guessing. Plus, Captain Marvel just isn't that popular a character. Her first movie benefitted from IW hype and being a curioisity for non-comic readers. They weren't impressed I guess. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snake_5036 03/06/25 9:19:36 AM #10: |
other movies didn't get hit with "WOKE WOKE WOKE BRIE LARSON IS A MAN HATING FEMINIST WOKE WOKE WOKE SHE'S OBNOXIOUS I HATE HER SHES ARROGANT AND A STICK IN THE MUD WOKE WOKE WOKE AND SHE WAS WAY TOO OP IN ENDGAME WOKE WOKE WOKE AND THE OTHER ACTORS HATE HER WOKE WOKE WOKE" spam for outrage farming plus general Marvel fatigue post-Endgame for sane people --- You felt your sins weighing on your neck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 03/06/25 10:20:15 AM #11: |
Doe posted... Captain Marvel 1 follows up the teaser from Avengers Infinity War as Marvel being Nick Fury's ultimate end of the world emergency contact. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JuanCarlos1 03/06/25 10:22:36 AM #12: |
Captain Marvel 1 was riding the coattails of infinity wars --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 03/06/25 10:35:37 AM #13: |
They made it seem like it was going to be important to Endgame. MCU was still at the peak of popularity. Shes a very B-tier character even without all the silly culture war stuff around the movie. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 03/06/25 10:40:42 AM #14: |
Well, it was a bad movie that required you to watch multiple other pieces of media to understand and a general Marvel burnout. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Popo 03/06/25 10:45:57 AM #15: |
One followed ant man and the wasp One followed ant man and the wasp quantumania One was well received by fans (A cienmascore) and critics (79 on rotten tomatoes). The other wasn't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnsteadyOwl 03/06/25 10:49:09 AM #16: |
I think having the movies and the D+ shows be so intertwined was a mistake. They had Marvel TV shows before like Agents of Shield and the Netflix shows and people complained that characters from the Netflix shows in particular weren't part of the movies. But having those shows off in their own corner of the MCU meant they there if you wanted watch them but were never "homework" you needed to watch to get everything in the next movie. --- "If you are always trying to be normal, you will never know how amazing you can be." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 03/06/25 11:05:13 AM #17: |
saspa posted... How does Captain Marvel 1 make a billion but Captain Marvel 2 doesn't also make at least close to that. The corona pandemic didn't stop other movies from being box office successIt's not really uncommon for a first product to a big hit, and the sequel to not be received as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 03/06/25 11:11:39 AM #18: |
It's not Captain Marvel 1 and 2, it's MCU #21 and MCU #33. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Key 03/06/25 11:12:03 AM #19: |
Mostly IW hype. Also shes probably the least popular Avenger to get her own movie. Going into the first movie a lot of people didnt know much about her or have an opinion. But after she was basically a side character in EG and IW combined with people not liking her its not surprising the movie didnt do well. Also the MCU is also killed dry at this point for a lot of people the hype of the series ended with EG as many of the most popular characters were killed off and the main story concluded. --- <:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;}]\\\\\\O=('-'Q) (>'-')> <('-'<) ^( '-' )^ v( '-' )v <('-'<) ^(_ _)^ (>'-')> ^(^-^) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MuscleRobo 03/06/25 11:14:42 AM #20: |
A bunch of people got tricked into seeing Captain Marvel 1 as activism for some reason. "Don't let the chuds win! It's feminism to see this girl power movie!" That's why the talking point about the MCU being defense department propaganda got so strong too when that's the one that most embodies that. A defense department consultant walked off the set of Avengers because he thought they just couldn't fit with it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 03/06/25 11:15:22 AM #21: |
I wouldn't say Agent Coulson's return and a de-aged Nick Fury were major selling points for the first CM, but I wouldn't dismiss them out of hand either. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2001mark 03/06/25 11:35:47 AM #22: |
Infinity War bump - same for Ant-Man 2. The world was willing to throw all the monies at the content, esp. during that IW-EG bridge. As for the sequel, that no one asked for, it was just another bait & switch to introduce yet even more smaller stature characters no one asked for. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 03/06/25 11:49:34 AM #23: |
2001mark posted... As for the sequel, that no one asked for, it was just another bait & switch to introduce yet even more smaller stature characters no one asked for.Where do people get this idea that people need to "ask" for things in order for them to be made? Where is the council of pedantic nerds who approve movie production and who is going behind their backs to make things they didn't approve of? --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArkhamOrigins 03/06/25 11:51:56 AM #24: |
There's a Captain Marvel 2? --- The ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 03/06/25 12:25:50 PM #25: |
Captain Marvel released at the height of Infinity War - Endgame hype, and was a movie for a new character that most people thought had potential. Anything Marvel put out in that slot would have made a billion By The Marvels people didn't care, especially when part of the cast was a character from a random show they didn't care about. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hop918 03/06/25 12:33:06 PM #26: |
Captain Marvel got the boost of being the last thing mentioned in Infinity War and being the last movie released before Endgame. People went to see it hoping they'd get some information about Endgame, I believe it's also why Antman and the Wasp made more than the 1st Antman ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rick_alverado 03/06/25 12:46:14 PM #27: |
Some of it was that Captain Marvel got a boost from being between Infinity War and Endgame. Some of it was due to the fact that The Marvels didn't get a lot of the normal press tour stuff because of the actors strike going on meaning that the cast literally weren't able to do that stuff until shortly before the film came out. The fact that people incorrectly assumed you had to have watched some of the shows in order to understand The Marvels was another aspect. The so called culture war stuff was also in place, as while both starred women, the second was an ensemble of three women, with two of them not being white. There's other factors as well, like films in general not doing as well post-COVID, the MCU fatigue that a lot of people feel, and I'm sure tons of other stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mondoshawan2 03/06/25 12:58:33 PM #28: |
dhampire1 posted... I kinda consider the Marvels as the mcus low pointhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1e7bd8a8.jpg --- "muulti-pass!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Popo 03/06/25 1:05:46 PM #29: |
UnsteadyOwl posted... I think having the movies and the D+ shows be so intertwined was a mistake. They had Marvel TV shows before like Agents of Shield and the Netflix shows and people complained that characters from the Netflix shows in particular weren't part of the movies. But having those shows off in their own corner of the MCU meant they there if you wanted watch them but were never "homework" you needed to watch to get everything in the next movie. I don't think shows have anything to do with it Thor love and thunder, eternals and ant man quantumania are considered in the same group of disappointments/flops and those had no show connections. Thor love and thunder was successful though financiall Captain America Brave New world and the Marvel's are considered flops and did connect to shows Then there's Dr strange 2 and Deadpool and wolverine which connected to shows and were very successful So I don't know if there is a correlation here. I think people just want good product and they didn't seem the Marvel's as one of them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 03/06/25 1:11:44 PM #30: |
ArkhamOrigins posted... There's a Captain Marvel 2? This. There was the "Marvels" movie... but that wasn't about Captain Marvel. It was about Miss Marvel, Captain Marvel, and some other lady. Out of the three, I really didn't know who anyone was outside of Captain Marvel. And they really didn't have an introduction arc to explain who they were. So the movie made very little sense. Especially when you add all the silly hijinks that came with the movie. Hell, a "Scooby-Doo meets the Marvels" movie would have been more enjoyable... as, at least, the hijinks would have been expected. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 03/06/25 2:03:34 PM #31: |
Blue_Popo posted... I don't think shows have anything to do with it The shows clearly aren't helping and some have also been flopping. Deadpool was mocking the very concep of shows there --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 03/06/25 2:06:20 PM #32: |
It makes perfect sense. It was released between Infinity Wars and End Game, which some people thought watching Captain Marvel would be necessary for the End Game. There was no hype for The Marvels in comparison. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kuuko 03/06/25 2:09:40 PM #33: |
The kinda funny thing is everyone watched Captain Marvel thinking it would be required viewing for Endgame. And then it didn't really matter at all. She tells the cast she's too busy to help them and fucks off for 90% of the movie. Meanwhile Ant-Man 2 also came out between Infinity War and Endgame, it actually was relevant to Endgame's plot, and no one watched it. --- https://i.imgur.com/dzGMd.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 03/06/25 2:14:45 PM #34: |
Tom_Joad posted... This.You know that movie is in fact called Captain Marvel 2 in many countries? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pikachuchupika 03/06/25 3:11:25 PM #35: |
The Infinity War and Endgame hype was huge back then that people watched everything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmniNakago 03/06/25 3:17:39 PM #36: |
It was teased at the end of Infinity War so people wanted to see what it was all about, since everyone was hungry for Endgame. Plus grifting YouTubers ruined most forms of popular entertainment. There weren't so many obvious ones before COVID. --- "God is a comedian, playing to an audience that is too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire steamcommunity.com/id/nepenthes / twitter.com/epolsen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerOats 03/06/25 3:27:58 PM #37: |
Imagine if Endgame released 1 year later ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hop918 03/06/25 3:59:01 PM #38: |
Kuuko posted... Meanwhile Ant-Man 2 also came out between Infinity War and Endgame, it actually was relevant to Endgame's plot, and no one watched it. It was the highest grossing of the 3 antman movies so being in-between Infinity War and Endgame had some effect. Only like the last 5 mins are even relevant to Endgame which is literally the same amount of Captain Marvel that is relevant to Endgame. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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