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dancing_cactuar
02/20/25 4:03:22 AM
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In which we get more details about Multi-Paul, The Order helmed by Mister Liu, and various small character building elements that were quite nice. Plus, a surprise reappearance of Machine Head who I thought was completely out of the picture, although given that post credits I'm sure he'll wish real soon that he stayed out.

Titan's not too shabby playing 5D chess with the various superheroes and villains, not too shabby at all.

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Frosted_Midna
02/20/25 4:08:04 AM
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008Zulu
02/20/25 4:08:27 AM
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5D indeed. Machine Head is dead, not unless he can magic Battle Beast out of thin air again.

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Frosted_Midna
02/20/25 5:07:04 AM
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Titan just played chess, while everyone else was playing checkers. **** Machine Head is totally screwed.

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dancing_cactuar
02/20/25 12:19:56 PM
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I like to think that nobody spoke up at the table because they all knew Liu would come back and retake The Order so it would all be irrelevant, with the Mantis guy being shut down before he could point this out. Machine Head will probably throw Isotope and Titan under the bus before he turns into a pile of pulp and scrap metal by the dragon.

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voldothegr8
02/20/25 7:30:58 PM
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I don't know if I'd call it 5D chess, Machine Head clearly should have killed the big guy as well.

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LordFarquad1312
02/20/25 7:32:39 PM
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Machine Head must be pretty stupid, threatening Titan's family. Again.

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Smashingpmkns
02/20/25 7:33:39 PM
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Ngl I forgot all about Titan's whole story and I had to dig deep in my memory to remember wtf was even going on with all that. Good episode, with the fight animation was better tho.

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havean776
02/20/25 7:34:40 PM
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Eh pretty mid episode but mostly because the rest of the season has been great.

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EpicMickeyDrew
02/20/25 7:38:19 PM
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So was the bodyguard the dragon and mister liu just a puppet ?

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008Zulu
02/20/25 8:21:58 PM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
So was the bodyguard the dragon and mister liu just a puppet ?
Seems like the bodyguard was the real master. That or Liu used him to store a backup.

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GuerillaGorilla
02/20/25 11:07:05 PM
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Multi-Paul is so good with his powers. Far better than Kate. Not only does he make far more copies but he uses them as leverage while duplicating. I don't recall Kate ever doing that. Most she does is just dogpile someone. I still wonder if that's a limitation she puts on herself or if her powers are just not as strong. Hard to believe they had the same training.

Machine head as hilarious as ever.

Dragon too strong. Invincible gets plastered once again. I'm beginning to to wonder how Omniman could take over Earth, if it was even possible, with such powerful beings running around. Over twice as powerful as he was last season who fought on par with some pure blood Viltrumites and is now definitively comparable to them and giant centipedes and extra dimensional dragons still walk all over him.

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PurestProdigy
02/20/25 11:10:05 PM
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GuerillaGorilla posted...
I'm beginning to to wonder how Omniman could take over Earth, if it was even possible, with such powerful beings running around. Over twice as powerful as he was last season and giant centipedes and extra dimensional dragons still walk all over him.
Invincible is still leagues away from Omniman who is full-blood Viltrumite and has been training his strength for centuries (and also one of their most prestigious legendary warriors)

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Frosted_Midna
02/20/25 11:12:10 PM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
So was the bodyguard the dragon and mister liu just a puppet ?

Liu's body stores the dragon spirit. His body guard, since he didn't die retrieved the spirit to bring it back to Liu. If they killed the body guard too, the spirit would have nothing.

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GuerillaGorilla
02/20/25 11:13:13 PM
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PurestProdigy posted...
Invincible is still leagues away from Omniman who is full-blood Viltrumite and has been training his strength for centuries (and also one of their most prestigious legendary warriors)
Yeah the problem is we don't know how much the power can range among the strongest to weakest but still allowed to live Viltrumites are. The ones Mark fought could have been bottom rung for all we know, and no definitive answer to where Omniman falls on it.

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voldothegr8
02/20/25 11:17:07 PM
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PurestProdigy posted...
Invincible is still leagues away from Omniman who is full-blood Viltrumite and has been training his strength for centuries (and also one of their most prestigious legendary warriors)
Pretty sure Omni-Man couldn't stop Dragon Liu either until he figured out the weakness.

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C_Pain
02/20/25 11:31:40 PM
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Kind of a boring episode imo.

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dancing_cactuar
02/20/25 11:32:39 PM
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GuerillaGorilla posted...
Multi-Paul is so good with his powers. Far better than Kate. Not only does he make far more copies but he uses them as leverage while duplicating. I don't recall Kate ever doing that. Most she does is just dogpile someone. I still wonder if that's a limitation she puts on herself or if her powers are just not as strong. Hard to believe they had the same training.
Well technically they didn't, one stayed behind at the facility while the other left and eventually found their way as an assassin for The Order. Who knows what tricks he picked up, and how in such an environment he potentially pushed his powers in ways Kate just didn't need to, using them in a different way.

GuerillaGorilla posted...
Yeah the problem is we don't know how much the power can range among the strongest to weakest but still allowed to live Viltrumites are. The ones Mark fought could have been bottom rung for all we know, and no definitive answer to where Omniman falls on it.
The fact that we see at least 2 other universes from Angstrom's memories where cities are in complete ruins suggests that even with Mark actively helping Omni-Man, it wouldn't be a clean conquest.

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Holy_Cloud105
02/20/25 11:33:32 PM
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PurestProdigy posted...
Invincible is still leagues away from Omniman who is full-blood Viltrumite and has been training his strength for centuries (and also one of their most prestigious legendary warriors)
That's fair but it's getting really old seeing Invincible get his ass beat by everybody.

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LordFarquad1312
02/22/25 5:45:37 PM
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To the people saying Omniman would struggle. Maybe he wouldn't win, but he definitely wouldn't lose either
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GuerillaGorilla
02/22/25 6:21:05 PM
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Damn that's a nice catch from that guy.

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008Zulu
02/22/25 11:22:45 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
That's fair but it's getting really old seeing Invincible get his ass beat by everybody.
True, but it's equally boring see a hero wipe the floor with their enemy in every encounter.

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Holy_Cloud105
02/23/25 1:05:00 PM
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008Zulu posted...
True, but it's equally boring see a hero wipe the floor with their enemy in every encounter.
That's not what I'm asking for. Mark should be able to beat some enemies without trying and struggle against ones that require it. Instead, Mark gets beat up by everyone and almost dies every time. He'd probably get his ass beat by Oliver too.

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DrizztLink
02/23/25 1:08:21 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
That's fair but it's getting really old seeing Invincible get his ass beat by everybody.
The entire series of Invincible is just an endless stream of life holding Mark down while Kirkman kicks him in the teeth and/or crotch.

Like, he damn near started his superhero career finding out his father is a Kryptonazi from Planet Kryptonazi and then his father murdered thousands of people with Mark's face as the murder weapon.

And, like, those were the good days, it only got worse from there.

If you want to see a series where good things happen to the protagonist, you're watching the wrong series.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/23/25 7:30:46 PM
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Haha, seeing Machinehead running The Order is a lot of fun. XD

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pegusus123456
02/24/25 12:27:26 PM
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While his age and relative inexperience probably has a lot to do with it, I think the fact that Mark gets his ass beat so much is meant to be a little bit of foreshadowing that the Viltrumites aren't quite as powerful as they appear to be. Which gels narratively with the fact that there are only about fifty of them. Their empire is built on propaganda as much as it is on strength.

One thing I don't like about this season is Eve. She's just not a character anymore. Recapturing the prisoners is the first time in a while she's done something other than sit on the roof and console Mark after he summarizes the events of the episode to her.

Their relationship is moving too fast, but that I can accept. It's where she's just rolling over on everything. Mark says they should get an apartment, she says okay. Mark says they shouldn't, she says she was thinking that they were moving too fast anyway. Why did she not express this opinion to begin with? Instead she's so gung-ho on the plan that she sets up a business to make it happen (when she could just make another golden apple like she did for her dad last season but nevermind that).

On the other hand, Rex and Rae are great. One of them is definitely gonna die.

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mazingetter
02/24/25 12:54:13 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
On the other hand, Rex and Rae are great. One of them is definitely gonna die.

I'm expecting both of them will die.
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pegusus123456
02/24/25 12:56:06 PM
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mazingetter posted...
I'm expecting both of them will die.
That's not sad enough

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dancing_cactuar
02/24/25 12:57:45 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
That's not sad enough
Depends on the execution.

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AceMos
02/24/25 1:00:50 PM
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with how miserable this show likes to be

i expect rae will get pregnant shortly after rex will die she will then suffer a miscarriage cus the child has her powers and shrinks while inside her this will push her to suicide

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cjsdowg
02/24/25 1:02:28 PM
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I just learned that if you don't store champagne right it messes up. I just assumed they didn't like because it was just nasty

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/24/25 1:03:03 PM
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I think it shows that both Eve and Mark are desperate for a romantic relationship that feels right and makes sense. It is VERY young adult to find that person and rush into it so fast when it feels right, for both to want to placate the other.

I think it is written well honestly, like young people in love. Also makes sense for their profession in that they could face life or death issues at any second. Why waste time you may not have?

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pegusus123456
02/24/25 1:12:20 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I just learned that if you don't store champagne right it messes up. I just assumed they didn't like because it was just nasty
It might have just been straight vinegar.

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I think it shows that both Eve and Mark are desperate for a romantic relationship that feels right and makes sense. It is VERY young adult to find that person and rush into it so fast when it feels right, for both to want to placate the other.

I think it is written well honestly, like young people in love. Also makes sense for their profession in that they could face life or death issues at any second. Why waste time you may not have?
Like I said, the speed of the relationship doesn't bother me too much. I'm used to that in shows.

It's just that Eve's become such a nonentity.

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Xenogears15
02/24/25 1:59:08 PM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I think it is written well honestly, like young people in love. Also makes sense for their profession in that they could face life or death issues at any second. Why waste time you may not have?

Invincible is not the best writing in the world, but it's still really good. Imo, better than The Walking Dead, which is Kirkman's magnum opus.

I especially like how Eve is written. One of the best written women I've read in comics.


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Holy_Cloud105
02/24/25 4:32:08 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
The entire series of Invincible is just an endless stream of life holding Mark down while Kirkman kicks him in the teeth and/or crotch.

Like, he damn near started his superhero career finding out his father is a Kryptonazi from Planet Kryptonazi and then his father murdered thousands of people with Mark's face as the murder weapon.

And, like, those were the good days, it only got worse from there.

If you want to see a series where good things happen to the protagonist, you're watching the wrong series.
Yeah, thats fine and whatever but thats not what Im asking for. He shouldnt be getting his shit pushed in by the Mauler Twins every time. He should be strong enough to knock them out in one punch considering Oliver killed them without any struggle. He just doesnt. I guess Kirkman jacks off to how much he makes Mark suffer at everything.

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refmon
02/24/25 4:37:51 PM
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What was the point of them giving him that anime ass power boost if he still gets his ass kicked by the twins?

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Holy_Cloud105
02/24/25 5:37:55 PM
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refmon posted...
What was the point of them giving him that anime ass power boost if he still gets his ass kicked by the twins?
That's what gets me. He got the anime power boost that let him beat up that Viltrumite woman and you're telling me he struggles with the Mauler Twins? Are they stronger than that Viltrumite woman all of a sudden? For a show that seems to care about powerscaling it does a horrible job at keeping things consistent.

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pegusus123456
02/24/25 6:19:28 PM
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I thought it was pretty clear that Mark's problem is he's holding back because he accidentally murdered a dude, not so much that he couldn't atomize the Mauler Twins if he wanted.

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cjsdowg
02/24/25 6:48:57 PM
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I'm the only one who thinks the side characters story or more interesting than Mark's.

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Necronmon
02/24/25 6:52:20 PM
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I'm the only one who thinks the side characters story or more interesting than Mark's.

That's how most shows are, just be glad its not like Bleach where Ichigo became a joke in his own series because Kubo liked the Captains more.
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dancing_cactuar
02/24/25 8:01:25 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I thought it was pretty clear that Mark's problem is he's holding back because he accidentally murdered a dude, not so much that he couldn't atomize the Mauler Twins if he wanted.
Remember in the first episode when he said to Rex when fighting the twins he basically had to fight with a hand tied behind his back, and Rex already had his guy down while Mark's fight was him trying to make sure he wouldn't accidentally turn the guy into a stain on the floor?

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DrizztLink
02/24/25 8:04:47 PM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
Remember in the first episode when he said to Rex when fighting the twins he basically had to fight with a hand tied behind his back, and Rex already had his guy down while Mark's fight was him trying to make sure he wouldn't accidentally turn the guy into a stain on the floor?
You both raise a good point that I missed.

Mark's all fucked up right now and trying to keep from accidentally turning people's inside skeleton into their outside powder. Again.

Like, of course Oliver killed them easily, Oliver doesn't give a fuck about the sanctity of life. It's like the difference between having Superman show up when you're mugging someone and Zod. One of them is more interested in you walking away, the other one is just going to erase you, and that colors how they'd fight.

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Holy_Cloud105
02/24/25 8:39:41 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
You both raise a good point that I missed.

Mark's all fucked up right now and trying to keep from accidentally turning people's inside skeleton into their outside powder. Again.

Like, of course Oliver killed them easily, Oliver doesn't give a fuck about the sanctity of life. It's like the difference between having Superman show up when you're mugging someone and Zod. One of them is more interested in you walking away, the other one is just going to erase you, and that colors how they'd fight.
That's completely different. There's a difference between killing them in one punch and being able to knock them out. Mark can and should be able to knock those people out in one punch and at the very least not almost die fighting them every single time. But like I said, if Kirkman faps to the thought of how miserable he can make Mark at everything, then that's what it is.

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pegusus123456
02/24/25 8:41:10 PM
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Mark was also distracted by Oliver's presence and he did get zapped by the nerve gun.

They aren't having him job for no reason, they do usually justify it.

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DrizztLink
02/24/25 8:45:10 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
There's a difference between killing them in one punch and being able to knock them out.
At his level? Not really, the comparative levels of force are much different than it would be for some dude.

He could shatter their entire torso with, like, a half-hearted jab, and he's not exactly highly-trained.

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Holy_Cloud105
02/24/25 8:48:24 PM
#46:


pegusus123456 posted...
Mark was also distracted by Oliver's presence and he did get zapped by the nerve gun.

They aren't having him job for no reason, they do usually justify it.
I was more talking about while he was fighting them before Oliver got there and getting his ass beat.

DrizztLink posted...
At his level? Not really, the comparative levels of force are much different than it would be for some dude.

He could shatter their entire torso with, like, a half-hearted jab, and he's not exactly highly-trained.
Okay, that's fair.

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pegusus123456
02/24/25 8:49:26 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
I was more talking about while he was fighting them before Oliver got there and getting his ass beat.

pegusus123456 posted...
he did get zapped by the nerve gun.


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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/24/25 8:50:34 PM
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Also, the way that he was trained by Cecil was not about control, it was about PURE POWER.

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EpicMickeyDrew
02/25/25 1:43:23 PM
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I don't get why Mark changed his suit? It's not like Cecil or the gda designed his suit he literally designed it himself. And then he's like i work alone now give me a new suit

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pegusus123456
02/25/25 1:46:53 PM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
I don't get why Mark changed his suit? It's not like Cecil or the gda designed his suit he literally designed it himself. And then he's like i work alone now give me a new suit
He just wanted a new look gotdamn

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