Current Events > US Department of Justice declares Tencent a Chinese military company

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VeggetaX 01/07/25 9:02:18 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1876811331233296676 https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07/tech/tencent-catl-us-list-china-military-companies-intl-hnk/index.html The US Department of Defense has added Chinese tech companies Tencent, a social media and gaming giant, and CATL, the worlds largest battery maker, to a list of firms that it alleges work with Chinas military. In a statement to CNN, Tencent called its inclusion on the list a mistake. We are not a military company or supplier. Unlike sanctions or export controls, this listing has no impact on our business. We will nonetheless work with the Department of Defense to address any misunderstanding, a spokesperson said. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:983579039] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1876811331233296676https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07/tech/tencent-catl-us-list-china-military-companies-intl-hnk/index.html<quote>The US Department of Defense has added Chinese tech companies Tencent, a social media and gaming giant, and CATL, the worlds largest battery maker, to a list of firms that it alleges work with Chinas military.In a statement to CNN, Tencent called its inclusion on the list a mistake.We are not a military company or supplier. Unlike sanctions or export controls, this listing has no impact on our business. We will nonetheless work with the Department of Defense to address any misunderstanding, a spokesperson said.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImagineUsngAlts 01/07/25 9:11:20 PM #2:	lol --- Don't trust the ones below level 33 <cite>ImagineUsngAlts posted [p:983579142] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 01/07/25 9:15:34 PM #3:	Storm the capital = oh ok Gaming company, probably making a lot a money = military and potential enemies <cite>PowerOats posted [p:983579179] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Storm the capital = oh okGaming company, probably making a lot a money = military and potential enemies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link_of_time 01/07/25 9:28:29 PM #4:	They're not wrong <cite>Link_of_time posted [p:983579328] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>They're not wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 01/07/25 9:29:07 PM #5:	Honestly surprised it took them this long. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:983579332] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Honestly surprised it took them this long.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 01/07/25 9:33:17 PM #6:	Rip tencent in America <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:983579372] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Rip tencent in America </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 01/07/25 9:34:26 PM #7:	Is it because they are a CCP shilling company? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:983579382] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Is it because they are a CCP shilling company?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 01/07/25 9:36:04 PM #8:	Probably just throw money at Trump like Tiktok is doing <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:983579397] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Probably just throw money at Trump like Tiktok is doing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 01/07/25 9:36:09 PM #9:	Tencent sucks --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:983579398] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Tencent sucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/07/25 9:39:23 PM #10:	If they supply computing equipment/resources to Chinese hackers who then hack the US, is that not in a way a military supplier i dunno if they do that but thats my guess. Tencent mostly do multimedia but I think they have some vague offerings in cloud services, AI and data processing id say its more likely a mistake <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:983579424] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>If they supply computing equipment/resources to Chinese hackers who then hack the US, is that not in a way a military supplieri dunno if they do that but thats my guess. Tencent mostly do multimedia but I think they have some vague offerings in cloud services, AI and data processing id say its more likely a mistake </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 01/07/25 9:39:37 PM #11:	PowerOats posted... Storm the capital = oh ok Gaming company, probably making a lot a money = military and potential enemies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzchung_controversy We would be wise not to underestimate CCP influence in American media. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:983579428] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>Storm the capital = oh okGaming company, probably making a lot a money = military and potential enemies</quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzchung_controversyWe would be wise not to underestimate CCP influence in American media.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 01/07/25 9:41:02 PM #12:	Don't worry, I'm sure Donnie's gonna be "tough on China" this time. Just ignore the big sacks of bribe cash Xi Jinping will be sending his way. --- I don't want to live on this planet anymore. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:983579438] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Don't worry, I'm sure Donnie's gonna be "tough on China" this time. Just ignore the big sacks of bribe cash Xi Jinping will be sending his way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_is_smart 01/07/25 9:41:29 PM #13:	To be fair they probably do monitor "concerning chat logs" from their games for the CCP. --- Tah-rah-rah-boom-dee-aaay, did you get yours todaaay? I got mine yesterdaaay, that's why I walk this way. i.imgur.com/FoxGIbC.jpg <cite>I_is_smart posted [p:983579446] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>To be fair they probably do monitor "concerning chat logs" from their games for the CCP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 01/07/25 9:41:36 PM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... If they supply computing equipment/resources to Chinese hackers who then hack the US, is that not in a way a military supplier i dunno if they do that but thats my guess. Tencent mostly do multimedia but I think they have some vague offerings in cloud services and data processing id say its more likely a mistake I bet they're doing it because its China. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:983579448] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>If they supply computing equipment/resources to Chinese hackers who then hack the US, is that not in a way a military supplieri dunno if they do that but thats my guess. Tencent mostly do multimedia but I think they have some vague offerings in cloud services and data processing id say its more likely a mistake</quote>I bet they're doing it because its China. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 01/07/25 9:47:32 PM #16:	I_is_smart posted... To be fair they probably do monitor "concerning chat logs" from their games for the CCP. Also theres this, I think they also operate some huge social network over there (with an international version) which absolutely the CCP would monitor <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:983579501] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>I_is_smart posted... </cite><quote>To be fair they probably do monitor "concerning chat logs" from their games for the CCP.</quote>Also theres this, I think they also operate some huge social network over there (with an international version) which absolutely the CCP would monitor </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 01/07/25 9:54:03 PM #17:	VeggetaX posted... Is it because they are a CCP shilling company? Every company is CCP shilling company Any time an American company mistakenly says something about Taiwan being a country, the CCP throws a tantrum, and the American company inevitably caves and starts talking about how they "support the one China policy" and "China's right to mange its territorial affairs" and all that bullshit --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:983579572] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Is it because they are a CCP shilling company?</quote>Every company is CCP shilling companyAny time an American company mistakenly says something about Taiwan being a country, the CCP throws a tantrum, and the American company inevitably caves and starts talking about how they "support the one China policy" and "China's right to mange its territorial affairs" and all that bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soliloquy_Rhap 01/07/25 10:06:56 PM #18:	Is this the first start to banning video games? <cite>Soliloquy_Rhap posted [p:983579752] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Is this the first start to banning video games?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lcampoy 01/07/25 10:09:46 PM #20:	i knew it --- 3DS: 1220-8395-9035 <cite>lcampoy posted [p:983579775] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>i knew it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SMT_Masochist 01/07/25 10:12:41 PM #21:	PowerOats posted... Storm the capital = oh ok Gaming company, probably making a lot a money = military and potential enemies It's like we're back in the 80's with the cold war. The US hates that the Chinese is making money from its citizens and ultimately wants a cut. US companies practically invented taking personal information from social media and using it against us. It's embarrassing how petty we've become. --- Games: SMT Vengeance, TFD, Rivals PS/XB: ENDBOSS78 Nin: endBOSS <cite>SMT_Masochist posted [p:983579804] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>Storm the capital = oh okGaming company, probably making a lot a money = military and potential enemies</quote>It's like we're back in the 80's with the cold war. The US hates that the Chinese is making money from its citizens and ultimately wants a cut. US companies practically invented taking personal information from social media and using it against us. It's embarrassing how petty we've become. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 01/07/25 10:14:37 PM #22:	Soliloquy_Rhap posted... Is this the first start to banning video games? could be Tencent has there fingers in alot of gaming companies Tencent is also an investor in Bytedance the owners of Tiktok <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:983579821] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Soliloquy_Rhap posted... </cite><quote>Is this the first start to banning video games?</quote>could be Tencent has there fingers in alot of gaming companies Tencent is also an investor in Bytedance the owners of Tiktok </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/07/25 10:15:31 PM #23:	CADE_FOSTER posted... Rip tencent in America Nah, they will just "donate money" to Trump, or maybe book some hotel rooms. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala <cite>creativerealms posted [p:983579827] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>CADE_FOSTER posted... </cite><quote>Rip tencent in America</quote>Nah, they will just "donate money" to Trump, or maybe book some hotel rooms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_twisted 01/07/25 10:16:21 PM #24:	Oof Guess Hoyoverse is next --- Fans are the worst thing about being a fan. <cite>Dark_twisted posted [p:983579838] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>OofGuess Hoyoverse is next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImagineUsngAlts 01/07/25 10:16:48 PM #25:	Rika_Furude posted... If they supply computing equipment/resources to Chinese hackers who then hack the US, is that not in a way a military supplier i dunno if they do that but thats my guess. Tencent mostly do multimedia but I think they have some vague offerings in cloud services, AI and data processing id say its more likely a mistake That would be like saying Apple, Meta, Amazon, Disney and pretty much any big company are terrorist organizations because they donate to the GOP. Tencent sucks but saying they're a military company is obviously ridiculous but it's no surprise to see people from both sides of the fence cheering it due to the latent sinophobic racism that's ingrained in anglophone countries. --- Don't trust the ones below level 33 <cite>ImagineUsngAlts posted [p:983579848] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>If they supply computing equipment/resources to Chinese hackers who then hack the US, is that not in a way a military supplieri dunno if they do that but thats my guess. Tencent mostly do multimedia but I think they have some vague offerings in cloud services, AI and data processing id say its more likely a mistake</quote>That would be like saying Apple, Meta, Amazon, Disney and pretty much any big company are terrorist organizations because they donate to the GOP. Tencent sucks but saying they're a military company is obviously ridiculous but it's no surprise to see people from both sides of the fence cheering it due to the latent sinophobic racism that's ingrained in anglophone countries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 01/07/25 10:17:30 PM #26:	creativerealms posted... Nah, they will just "donate money" to Trump, or maybe book some hotel rooms. oh i totally see that happening China only bad when dems are in power then Trump can take all the foreign money he wants <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:983579854] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Nah, they will just "donate money" to Trump, or maybe book some hotel rooms.</quote>oh i totally see that happening China only bad when dems are in power then Trump can take all the foreign money he wants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 01/07/25 10:49:45 PM #27:	ImagineUsngAlts posted... it's no surprise to see people from both sides of the fence cheering it due to the latent sinophobic racism that's ingrained in anglophone countries. Well damn --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:983580144] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>ImagineUsngAlts posted... </cite><quote>it's no surprise to see people from both sides of the fence cheering it due to the latent sinophobic racism that's ingrained in anglophone countries.</quote>Well damn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 01/07/25 10:53:36 PM #28:	ImagineUsngAlts posted... That would be like saying Apple, Meta, Amazon, Disney and pretty much any big company are terrorist organizations because they donate to the GOP. Sure. If they want to donate to domestic terrorists, they can have the label. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:983580169] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>ImagineUsngAlts posted... </cite><quote>That would be like saying Apple, Meta, Amazon, Disney and pretty much any big company are terrorist organizations because they donate to the GOP.</quote>Sure.If they want to donate to domestic terrorists, they can have the label.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 01/07/25 10:58:26 PM #29:	CADE_FOSTER posted... oh i totally see that happening China only bad when dems are in power then Trump can take all the foreign money he wants I mean, Trump owed tens of millions to the Bank of China while he was president. He ordered his State Department to drop sanctions against a Chinese telecom company doing business with Iran after China spent millions at Trump's properties. Shortly after the sanctions were lifted, his daughter was awarded a bunch of patents from the Chinese government. But to your point, not a single Republican (save Adam Kinzinger) said a word about any of this at the time. Meanwhile, they tried to turn Biden checking in on his son into the biggest scandal in the history of US politics. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:983580208] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>CADE_FOSTER posted... </cite><quote>oh i totally see that happening China only bad when dems are in power then Trump can take all the foreign money he wants</quote>I mean, Trump owed tens of millions to the Bank of China while he was president. He ordered his State Department to drop sanctions against a Chinese telecom company doing business with Iran after China spent millions at Trump's properties. Shortly after the sanctions were lifted, his daughter was awarded a bunch of patents from the Chinese government.But to your point, not a single Republican (save Adam Kinzinger) said a word about any of this at the time. Meanwhile, they tried to turn Biden checking in on his son into the biggest scandal in the history of US politics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/07/25 11:41:16 PM #30:	ImagineUsngAlts posted... That would be like saying Apple, Meta, Amazon, Disney and pretty much any big company are terrorist organizations because they donate to the GOP. Tencent sucks but saying they're a military company is obviously ridiculous but it's no surprise to see people from both sides of the fence cheering it due to the latent sinophobic racism that's ingrained in anglophone countries. What would you say about a company that donated to Nazi germany and gave them western data? <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:983580532] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>ImagineUsngAlts posted... </cite><quote>That would be like saying Apple, Meta, Amazon, Disney and pretty much any big company are terrorist organizations because they donate to the GOP. Tencent sucks but saying they're a military company is obviously ridiculous but it's no surprise to see people from both sides of the fence cheering it due to the latent sinophobic racism that's ingrained in anglophone countries.</quote>What would you say about a company that donated to Nazi germany and gave them western data? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 01/07/25 11:42:44 PM #31:	Weaponized video games! --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:983580542] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Weaponized video games!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImagineUsngAlts 01/07/25 11:48:29 PM #32:	DrizztLink posted... Sure. If they want to donate to domestic terrorists, they can have the label. That would be extremely hyperbolic. Rika_Furude posted... What would you say about a company that donated to Nazi germany and gave them western data? A lot of countries had collusions with Nazi Germany in the 1930s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany --- Don't trust the ones below level 33 <cite>ImagineUsngAlts posted [p:983580574] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Sure.If they want to donate to domestic terrorists, they can have the label.</quote>That would be extremely hyperbolic.Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>What would you say about a company that donated to Nazi germany and gave them western data?</quote>A lot of countries had collusions with Nazi Germany in the 1930s.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/08/25 2:17:04 AM #33:	ImagineUsngAlts posted... That would be extremely hyperbolic. A lot of countries had collusions with Nazi Germany in the 1930s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany yeah and lots of companies are evil pieces of shit. You didnt answer my question <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:983581550] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>ImagineUsngAlts posted... </cite><quote>That would be extremely hyperbolic.A lot of countries had collusions with Nazi Germany in the 1930s.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany</quote>yeah and lots of companies are evil pieces of shit. You didnt answer my question </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 01/08/25 2:32:36 AM #34:	There's like no evidence that tencent provides anything to hackers. No point in making shit up and getting mad about it. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:983581617] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>There's like no evidence that tencent provides anything to hackers. No point in making shit up and getting mad about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImagineUsngAlts 01/08/25 6:32:11 AM #35:	Rika_Furude posted... yeah and lots of companies are evil pieces of shit. You didnt answer my question And those companies obviously aren't classified as nazi companies. --- Don't trust the ones below level 33 <cite>ImagineUsngAlts posted [p:983582548] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>yeah and lots of companies are evil pieces of shit. You didnt answer my question</quote>And those companies obviously aren't classified as nazi companies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/08/25 7:42:06 AM #36:	ImagineUsngAlts posted... And those companies obviously aren't classified as nazi companies. A company that funds Nazis isnt a company that supports Nazis? <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:983582852] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>ImagineUsngAlts posted... </cite><quote>And those companies obviously aren't classified as nazi companies.</quote>A company that funds Nazis isnt a company that supports Nazis? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 01/08/25 7:44:39 AM #37:	Rika_Furude posted... A company that funds Nazis isnt a company that supports Nazis? In the real world there's a difference between financial support and actually being the thing because pretty much everything is connected via financial support. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:983582856] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>A company that funds Nazis isnt a company that supports Nazis?</quote>In the real world there's a difference between financial support and actually being the thing because pretty much everything is connected via financial support.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 01/08/25 7:53:58 AM #38:	I find it incredibly difficult to care about some Chinese company when the companies were have here at home are already cozying up to the GOP, who can actually affect my life --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:983582892] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>I find it incredibly difficult to care about some Chinese company when the companies were have here at home are already cozying up to the GOP, who can actually affect my life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImagineUsngAlts 01/08/25 7:59:40 AM #39:	Rika_Furude posted... A company that funds Nazis isnt a company that supports Nazis? Not necessarily ideological support, but obviously financial support and funding are synonyms. Either way, they're not labeled Nazi companies. --- Don't trust the ones below level 33 <cite>ImagineUsngAlts posted [p:983582935] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>A company that funds Nazis isnt a company that supports Nazis?</quote>Not necessarily ideological support, but obviously financial support and funding are synonyms. Either way, they're not labeled Nazi companies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 01/08/25 8:05:04 AM #40:	A quick inauguration donation could clear this up --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/062sANy.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:983582960] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>A quick inauguration donation could clear this up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 01/08/25 8:25:42 AM #41:	Ricemills posted... Weaponized video games! The CCP took my Microsoft Dinosaurs CD and cut me with it! --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:983583078] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Weaponized video games!</quote>The CCP took my Microsoft Dinosaurs CD and cut me with it!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 01/08/25 6:21:20 PM #42:	I apologize, y'all. In the topic title I said Department of Justice when it was Department of Defense. Anyway, some of the publishers says they gonna sue lmao https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1877128423384006997 --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:983589631] in US Departm... [t:80914413]...</cite> <quote>I apologize, y'all. In the topic title I said Department of Justice when it was Department of Defense.Anyway, some of the publishers says they gonna sue lmaohttps://twitter.com/IGN/status/1877128423384006997</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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