Current Events > Aren't single moms + obese who 'can't' find men just female versions of incel ?

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lydiaquayle
12/26/24 1:48:24 AM
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They seem to say the exact same thing as male incels.

No one desires them.
Society has deemed them as ugly.
Society is unfair.
Everyone is entitled to be happy and find someone to love or fuck them.
Men would rather date young, hot crazy bitches than an 'ugly' chick who is 'nice'.

Is there any genuine difference between male incels vs single mothers or undesirable obese women?

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Joelypoely
12/26/24 1:54:46 AM
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lydiaquayle posted...
Is there any genuine difference between male incels vs single mothers or undesirable obese women?


From their perspective, determined by factors outside of their control vs. factors within one's control.
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008Zulu
12/26/24 1:55:47 AM
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Only if they believe it's everyone else's fault but theirs, and they exhibit an unhealthy hate for men.

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Solar_Crimson
12/26/24 1:56:49 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Only if they believe it's everyone else's fault but theirs, and they exhibit an unhealthy hate for men.


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lydiaquayle
12/26/24 1:57:40 AM
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Joelypoely posted...
From their perspective, determined by factors outside of their control vs. factors within one's control.
Many women feel that those factors are indeed outside of their control.

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Joelypoely
12/26/24 2:01:42 AM
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lydiaquayle posted...
Many women feel that those factors are indeed outside of their control.


True. Obesity is a difficult one as it can be caused by many things. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to have an upbringing where eating very unhealthily/too much was normal for you, then trying to change that later in life.
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ai123
12/26/24 2:04:26 AM
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Women can be incels.

If they believe they are entitled to love and sex, despise people for not giving it to them and belong to a subculture that nurtures their hatred.

It's nothing to do with being a single mom and/or obese.

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NoxObscuras
12/26/24 2:06:57 AM
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There is a such thing as femcels. But it's wildly inaccurate to say that all single moms and obese women are in that category. They're a small minority

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ConfusedTorchic
12/26/24 2:20:53 AM
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if they have kids they cannot be a femcel by definition

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pauIie
12/26/24 2:32:07 AM
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single mom

incel

...huh?

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ssjevot
12/26/24 2:33:48 AM
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Incel the term was started by a woman. Now it's called femcel because of how associated the term has become with men, but this is far from a new concept, it's literally the origin of the term.

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ConfusedTorchic
12/26/24 2:46:49 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Incel the term was started by a woman. Now it's called femcel because of how associated the term has become with men, but this is far from a new concept, it's literally the origin of the term.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455

doesn't help that the incels literally took it and turned it into the derogatory term it is today

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vigorm0rtis
12/26/24 3:15:25 AM
#14:


pauIie posted...
single mom

incel

...huh?

This.

The women you're talking about can get laid. Incels can't.
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ai123
12/26/24 3:32:53 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
This.

The women you're talking about can get laid. Incels can't.
A lot of them could if they sorted out their shitty attitudes and behaviours instead of spending all their time harassing female celebrities on social media.

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vigorm0rtis
12/26/24 9:15:59 AM
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ai123 posted...
A lot of them could if they sorted out their shitty attitudes and behaviours instead of spending all their time harassing female celebrities on social media.

Anyone can if they're not completely awful.
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pazzy
12/26/24 9:25:19 AM
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Definitely more common than you'd think. I've been called "gay" more than once for not being interested in a woman.
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ai123
12/26/24 9:27:52 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Anyone can if they're not completely awful.
I should have said that there's a world of difference between people who struggle in social situations, and the nasty, misogynist, self-sabotaging, incel type.

But yeah. As my late grandmother used to say, 'there's a sock for every foot'.

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PraetorXyn
12/26/24 10:20:36 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Anyone can if they're not completely awful.
I disagree. Not being able to drive in a rural area puts a massive damper on meeting people. And the people I happen to meet on occasion are never single.

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Will_VIIII
12/26/24 10:25:58 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
This.

The women you're talking about can get laid. Incels can't.
An incel is someone who is "involuntarily celebrate" at the present moment.

In the past that may not have been the case but you can definitely be an incel and not be a virgin.

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DipDipDiver
12/26/24 10:26:39 AM
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And neither of these groups want to fuck each other

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crayola555
12/26/24 10:28:34 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Anyone can if they're not completely awful.

Not true at all, and this is a bad attitude and myth to keep propagating

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Will_VIIII
12/26/24 10:51:20 AM
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crayola555 posted...
Not true at all, and this is a bad attitude and myth to keep propagating
What???

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Raikuro
12/26/24 10:51:43 AM
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Reminder that incel does not mean virgin. Someone could have peak 10/10 looks, but if they feel entitled to an 11/10 and can manage to hook up with one only once a year despite trying constantly, they're an incel 364 days of the year. Incelness stems from overly critical standards, not personal appearance.
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JuanCarlos1
12/26/24 10:52:13 AM
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They still get laid though, so they dont share the same resentment.

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HighSeraph
12/26/24 10:53:16 AM
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Incel implies a hatred of women as well as inability to find a relationship. Femcels exist and range from all sorts of body types really

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KogaSteelfang
12/26/24 10:55:26 AM
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I've met so many women who claim to hate men. They despise them, hate them, trash talk them, etc. similar things a lot of incels say about women.

But the difference is that those women tend to have been hurt, mistreated, or abused by men. While those hateful incels are just entitled and wanting someone to hurt, mistreat, or abuse.

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VeggetaX
12/26/24 11:00:52 AM
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Yes femcels exist

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NoxObscuras
12/26/24 11:06:34 AM
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Uh... Yes, I was acknowledging that they're real. I think you misread my message lol

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Scardude
12/26/24 11:23:53 AM
#33:


KogaSteelfang posted...
I've met so many women who claim to hate men. They despise them, hate them, trash talk them, etc. similar things a lot of incels say about women.

But the difference is that those women tend to have been hurt, mistreated, or abused by men. While those hateful incels are just entitled and wanting someone to hurt, mistreat, or abuse.
You're assuming men can't be hurt, mistreated, or abused by women? A lot of people don't believe men can be affected by it but that's not true at all. Sometimes the behaviour could be that feeling from seeing other men get mistreated and they react to it.

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R_Jackal
12/26/24 11:24:59 AM
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People forget incel means involuntary celibate. By the nature of this single mothers are objectively not one lol.
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NoxObscuras
12/26/24 11:41:02 AM
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R_Jackal posted...
People forget incel means involuntary celibate. By the nature of this single mothers are objectively not one lol.
Oh God are we doing this in yet another topic? No. We didn't forget the definition. The meaning of incel has just changed over the years. As words so often do.

It now also applies to a specific type of guy that hates women and blames them for all of his failings. Like several of the mass shooters we've had that blamed women (IIRC Elliott Rodgers was the first in that vein). It's basically a specific subset of misogyny.

And femcels are the same. Women that hate men and blame men for all of their failings.

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bsp77
12/26/24 11:46:29 AM
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Incel never meant the person had to be a virgin. What if they paid for it? What if they had sex at one point in high school or something but haven't been able to replicate in the many years (or decades) since?

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KogaSteelfang
12/26/24 11:53:07 AM
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Scardude posted...
You're assuming men can't be hurt, mistreated, or abused by women? A lot of people don't believe men can be affected by it but that's not true at all. Sometimes the behaviour could be that feeling from seeing other men get mistreated and they react to it.
No, I'm not assuming that. I'm assuming the men hurt by women are the ones avoiding relationships and suffering in silence rather than rampaging about how much they need a woman in their life.

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Sandalorn
12/26/24 11:56:12 AM
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Ivany2008
12/26/24 12:01:29 PM
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I'm going to give you a newsflash: The female woman who can't find a good partner isn't always who you think it is. Sometimes its the prettiest girl at the bar who happens to have a bunch of mental health issues, daddy issues or is prone to making really bad decisions. I don't consider myself good looking, but I've gone out with a couple solid 9s and their mental health was completely out of whack.

Meanwhile the ones with their head on straight were the ones that have children and were forced to grow up.
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The_Korey
12/27/24 4:56:41 AM
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Being an incel (dumb name) is less about what you are and more about who you are. Despite most incels klaiming to be that because of what they are.

That said, being an obese single mother is not what defaults someone to being a femcel. It's the bitter toxic habit/personality, lack of self-awareness, feeling of entitlement to a partner, and/or konstant wallowing in self-pity that does it, same as males.

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lydiaquayle
12/28/24 6:08:08 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
People forget incel means involuntary celibate. By the nature of this single mothers are objectively not one lol.
Any incel can get laid. They can easily pay $5-$100 to get an ugly hooker, or $1000-$5000 for pretty one to hook up with them.

Incels just can't get laid with the actual girls that they want.
Same applies to femcels. Single mothers, according to them, can't get a single decent guy that that they want. The only men that they can get are toxic abusers and parasites, and they don't want them.

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lydiaquayle
12/28/24 7:19:52 PM
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anttttt
12/28/24 8:05:49 PM
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it's weird that people pretend that incel hasn't evolved to have a very specific meaning that's not "can't get sex"
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