Board 8 > Time Travelers Mafia Topic 4: _ Days Since Our Last Paradox

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Chang

You read the interactions with Sultan and it looks pretty clear to me. Just a lot of interactions there. More than they should have. I think Sultan was using Chang as a safe space.

If it self resolves then claim it for him

I dunno why you're insisting on voting a guy you literally said was town earlier today

If not Chang vote Peaf. Vote someone that could actually be scum. Voting town is a cop out

... what.

He is claiming there is no flavor split over and over and you think he's flavor cop

????

Lopen posted...

The cliff notes version of what Chang has done

- Been shading a lot of people in the game no pushes on anyone. Won't townclear anyone pretty much. I still think trying to seriously call me or Ulti scum at this point is a lot of mental gymnastics that town isnt naturally inclined to. Note the conviction he had on me as scum early in the day when Blade was being loud. Then Chang quieted down on me until counter voting me then unvoting me. He's being an imp and playing with the momentum.
- Was one of the early wall voters based on not much late yesterday-- I definitely think someone in that late wall mini push was scum. Chang slots well there.
- I actually can't imagine a role that exists where he fiercely refuses to claim but that's what he did. Chang LOVES claiming.
- One of his few contributions today was helping tilt Blade which is tactically smart for scum to do
- Mentioning flavor splits not existing a lot when it still looks like this could be a themed game feels fake. Like he's intentionally playing dumb about it.

I'll look for more stuff now. This is just from memory.

i hope no one buys this garbage.

don't you think if i love claiming so much i would have a fun fake claim ready to go from day 0 and claim it?

yes it was me that tilted blade after you spent like 20 posts explaining how his role was definitely 3p but we should keep him alive

i historically talk about flavor stuff a lot, it's one of the things i find fun about the game.

Lopen posted...

It's actually a scum Chang classic to fixate on something unimportant early to give the illusion he's contributing but not giving any reads.

this is not true in the least and i would love you to find any example of me doing this as scum. again you just make things up out of thin air

The dota mafia(?) you were basically focusing on theorycrafting the item shop the whole game and you were scum I'm pretty sure.

Lopen posted...

Chang

You read the interactions with Sultan and it looks pretty clear to me. Just a lot of interactions there. More than they should have. I think Sultan was using Chang as a safe space.

See while Ive been suspicious of Chang I dont like this reasoning because Im town and it felt like Sultan was doing the same thing with me

wallmasterz posted...

See while Ive been suspicious of Chang I dont like this reasoning because Im town and it felt like Sultan was doing the same thing with me

I think sultan did it with you early but when his back was pinned to the wall it was chang

Which to me is a different environment. He wouldn't need an emotional support player start of game.

Also note it was two ways. Chang was actually talking to Sultan a lot too

Lopen posted...

The dota mafia(?) you were basically focusing on theorycrafting the item shop the whole game and you were scum I'm pretty sure.

Your role for Dota 2 Mafia 2 is...
SUN WUKONG, TOWN Vanilla
"I need no introduction!"

You are Sun Wukong, the Monkey King; you've got the usual trappings as a Journey of the West expy - extending staff, cheeky misdirection, and you're... a giant, anthropomorphic monkey. Look, I'm sure everyone here has played League, or watched Dragon Ball Z, or played Warframe, or beat him up in a Stormblood dungeon in FFXIV... What I'm getting at is you're nothing special. Sorry.

As a Vanilla, you have no special abilities.

Held item: Banana - A yellow, long, slightly speckled, extraordinarily large berry, technically. Consuming it removes the peel and whets your appetite, leaving the peel on the ground near you. Until the start of the next day phase, one player who visits you will be roleblocked and prevented from taking further actions until the end of the current phase.

What was the game you fakeclaimed the grave digger or whatever

That's the one I meant

Lopen posted...

What was the game you fakeclaimed the grave digger or whatever

yeah that was yugioh and I was scum, ironically a game where you never suspected me once until [the incident]

Like maybe it was yugioh. I just know you spent the whole game talking about mechanics

i did theorycraft the dota item shop too though

You do theorycraft mechanics as town because mechanics interest you

I can't see why a flavor split is that interesting though

Can you claim your flavor at least

ulti you were on the right track earlier. not exactly, but in that vein

I think peaf should claim

I also think Peaf should claim

##Vote: Peaf

I think I may leave my vote here unless/until we get a claim

##Vote: Peaf

Choo choo

UltimaterializerX posted...

Because I think Ben scanned him.

Lemme find the Chang post, hang on.

I didn't scan scare or get anything from him at night just to be clear

Eh, Peaf had a much stronger reaction and natural reason to vote Sultan than Scare ever did.

I'm okay with a Peaf push. Not voting cuz not sure how close to lynch he is. But it's there in spirit. Peaf claim time!

I'll be here if Peaf claims something good

UltimaterializerX posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: Peaf

Yeah something's off.

Chang, I get what you're selling but you need to deliver by tomorrow.

understood and agreed.

Just vanilla here. Celebi. You're wasting your time and you're bad if you seriously think I'm scum for what I did with Sultan. Whatever. Lazy kids.

Reminder: If Lopen still isn't voting for me, increasingly high chance he's 3P intentionally trying to keep me alive as his fall guy

You're welcome tbqh.

I'm done checking my phone at this party. Do whatever you think is best, congratulations for letting a suspicious player skate by with doing nothing except let other players make an argument in his defense.

Merry Christmas everyone! And a happy new year of mafia!

Also Blade is quickly losing all town credit for sulking like a child and letting Lopen under his skin. Completely anti-town behavior.

Wallz and Lopen not responding to Peafs claim, waiting to see if other people react to it first. Blade childishly only commenting on Lopen or himself, entirely avoiding talking about any of the actual lynch options. Classic scum letting town lead their own lynches. I was probably wrong on Blade and town cleared him too easily for a good vote on Sultan. It's gonna be Blade/Sbell or something. Maybe still Blade/Wallz.

Peaf might still be scum and didn't prepare a claim. I certainly wasn't expecting all of our claims so far to be Vanilla or Basically Vanilla. I was expecting more roles with interplay with time travel mechanics. But I don't know what to make of his sour response. Could be genuine or manipulative.

This day sucks.

Chang is some low impact limited role that doesn't work with Red's double up. He thinks he's a joke flavor and/or role. Says claiming will have no town equity because his one time use ability probably is useless if scum can act around it. It's probably not him.

I don't wanna lead town, but it's two hours to deadline with most people gone, and my availability is gonna go to basically zero after I finish phone-ranting here.

I'll check in and try and change my vote if I can, but I feel like all of our lynch options suck right now. I don't want to policy lynch Scare because of inactivity because I think his player slot is town. I'm keeping my vote on Wallz for now, but hopefully someone comes in and makes some good argument to consolidate on someone.

I don't buy it. I feel like there aren't a lot of vanillas and I'm vanilla

Also time travel is such a rich set of flavor. Using it on a Pokemon feels lame