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GS4Life 11/17/24 1:37:50 PM #1: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIgwyMlHSw --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/17/24 9:15:33 PM #2: |
--- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaitouace 11/17/24 9:16:41 PM #3: |
Correct winner. --- "They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonPhoenix 11/17/24 9:19:35 PM #4: |
Wait, Death Battle is alive? I thought it died with Rooster Teeth --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lucariopikmin 11/17/24 9:23:04 PM #5: |
NeonPhoenix posted... Wait, Death Battle is alive? I thought it died with Rooster TeethThe creator got the rights back so they went independant. --- 3DS FC: 2380-2873-6073 Sun IGN: Evelyn Sword IGN: Fiora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/17/24 9:24:52 PM #6: |
AceMos posted...
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Necronmon 11/17/24 9:26:42 PM #7: |
They might want to redue that battle with Ganondorf now... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/17/24 10:36:35 PM #8: |
GS4Life posted...
--- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 11/17/24 10:42:30 PM #9: |
This was easily one of their best eps. I never knew how powerful bowsers minions were, and just how much synergy and utility they brought to the table. So that was a surprise. Also it seems they had a few alternate endings during the post battle synopsis. I really hope they show those later. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bladesyphon 11/17/24 10:49:36 PM #10: |
The fight itself was great, but the actual research and character assessments this time around were some of the worst they've done, especially in Eggman's side of things. This is one of those times where DB very obviously played favorites with one character, and significantly downplayed the other. The Metal Virus and Sage both frankly should have made this an entirely open sided fight, but DB handwaved the Metal Virus off because "magic" and completely misinterpreted Sage's processing ability with the whole "She couldn't calculate any way of defeating The End", when it was Eggman who literally told her to find a way to do it without Sonic's involvement. Frankly Sage alone would have made this a guaranteed victory for Eggman, as her entire character ability is based around the idea of running an unlimited number of simulations to find the one winning strategy. That said - the animation on this one was one of the best they've done, and it overall was a fantastic episode, they just completely fucked up the assessment and result this time because Nintendo. --- -Insert witty signature here- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/17/24 10:56:16 PM #11: |
I feel like there's been multiple Sage type characters in Mario Lore and in the end Bowser stomps them and becomes the real final boss. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/17/24 11:04:29 PM #12: |
Bladesyphon posted... The fight itself was great, but the actual research and character assessments this time around were some of the worst they've done, especially in Eggman's side of things.They do that a lot Also most of Eggman's tech save Metal Sonic, Sage, and the Death Egg was either mia or made to be useless --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evolician 11/17/24 11:04:34 PM #13: |
So basically Bowser wins because he cant / doesnt die, he just becomes Dry Bowser? Also, do we ever actually see what the Death Egg does in any Sonic game? Are we just assuming it shoots a big laser since its a Death Star homage? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/17/24 11:11:17 PM #14: |
Evolician posted... So basically Bowser wins because he cant / doesnt die, he just becomes Dry Bowser?Bowser needs Bowser Jr. to revive him in order to become Dry Bones Bowser he can't just resurrect himself. Also, do we ever actually see what the Death Egg does in any Sonic game? Are we just assuming it shoots a big laser since its a Death Star homage?Nope in Sonic Battle it shoots a power laser that destroys multiple stars at the same time so Emerl can essentially absorb the power of dozens of Super Novas (though IIRC it's not fully stated how much of that Power Emerl can actually absorb --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 11/17/24 11:12:51 PM #15: |
Bladesyphon posted... It wasnt hand waved, transmutation magic that bowser, Kamak, his son and many others possess all hard counters the metal virus. Aside from that metal power ups are a thing, and his Boo forces are completely immune to it all together. Sages simulations are also useless because she has no data on Bowser or his forces. So how could she develop a strategy? And even if she could they dont guarantee anything. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/17/24 11:45:28 PM #17: |
--- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkbuster 11/18/24 12:01:35 AM #18: |
Bladesyphon posted... The fight itself was great, but the actual research and character assessments this time around were some of the worst they've done, especially in Eggman's side of things. Totally agree. I'm fine with the outcome, since I acknowledge that Bowser is conceptually hard to fully kill with conventional means, given like all Koopas, he can continue as a Dry Bones (which in Mario lore, is basically an undead creature), but they massively undersell Sage. She indeed did have solutions for The End, but ignored the ones that involved Sonic, because Eggman explicitly told her to. Sage even references SA2 for how effective Sonic & Eggman are when working together. --- Remember kids, it's only an RPG until someone gets hit with a meteor; Then it's a JRPG! SSBB: 3869 0521 7142 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/24 12:22:54 AM #19: |
For me I feel like there's a clear competency bias. Bowser isn't like eggman in the sense that Bowser isn't incompetent. For the most part, if Mario can do it, Bowser can do it too, and probably better. The only thing Bowser can't do is beat Mario long term. Eggman on the other hand is a fucking moron. He's a great engineer but he's completely inept at basically everything else. It's not a case of Sonic beats him because he's the protagonist. Sonic beats him because he's better at everything except building robots. That's probably why they work so well together but I digress. Bowser stands on equal footing with Mario and Eggman doesn't do that with Sonic. As I've no doubt Mario could also beat Eggman if he was there for some reason, it stands that Bowser can beat Eggman. It would be cool to see this in a real video game though. An official one I mean, not Somari. As an aside, millions of possibilities that Sage can plan does nothing. Everyone in Bowser's army has access to every power up. Plus a potentially unlimited amount of Kamek enchantments (I am unaware of any scenario in which Kamek has buffed two different enemies the same way) means that there's an incalculable amount of ways Bowser can prep his army for battle. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 12:35:42 AM #20: |
Tyranthraxus posted... For me I feel like there's a clear competency bias. Bowser isn't like eggman in the sense that Bowser isn't incompetent. For the most part, if Mario can do it, Bowser can do it too, and probably better. The only thing Bowser can't do is beat Mario long term. indeed bowser is a lovable idiot but he is still rather competent all things considered hell people often forget mario bowser and peach are FRIENDS its ultimately a game they are playing --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/18/24 11:14:10 AM #21: |
I'm just going to drop the spoiler tag it's far enough itt and no one else is using them The fact that Infinite with the Phantom Ruby got killed by a Thwomp while Kamek and Bowser Jr. survived getting smashed by Super Neo Metal Sonic tells you all you need to know about DB Anywho closing argument since hypthetical nerd argument isn't worth the time I'm putting in It's funny how Joker beats Giorno via most circumstansial power power up in the series while Eggman doesn't use most of his trump cards --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 11/18/24 11:19:39 AM #22: |
GS4Life posted... The fact that Infinite with the Phantom Ruby got killed by a Thwomp while Kamek and Bowser Jr. survived getting smashed by Super Neo Metal Sonic tells you all you need to know about DB To be fair, it's a legitimate thing that Sonic characters immediately die to crush damage while Mario characters do not. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/18/24 11:25:41 AM #23: |
HashtagSEP posted... To be fair, it's a legitimate thing that Sonic characters immediately die to crush damage while Mario characters do not.Sonic characters die from crush damage from structures ala Mario characters insta dying from castle walls falling down in games like Super Mario World Anyways hard to use gameplay mechanics against characters like that neither Sonic or Mario would actually die just by touching a basic enemy --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 11/18/24 11:34:10 AM #24: |
HashtagSEP posted... To be fair, it's a legitimate thing that Sonic characters immediately die to crush damage while Mario characters do not.Thwomps instant-kill Mario in modern Mario games. Powerscalers must pick and choose "feats" and "anti-feats" arbitrarily because cartoon series aren't built around ironclad logical consistency --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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texanfan27 11/18/24 11:40:01 AM #25: |
I enjoyed the episode. Not sure how the next one will play out by any means, --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evolician 11/18/24 11:58:42 AM #26: |
Infinite is a lil bitch and was represented appropriately --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 11/18/24 12:04:16 PM #27: |
Eh, Bowser does have a lot more toon force than Eggman ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/24 12:37:04 PM #28: |
The Thwomp is just an abstraction of "Kamek fucking destroys Infinite." And not necessarily the thing that would actually happen. But also Evolician posted... Infinite is a lil bitch and was represented appropriately --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsuprised_Pika 11/18/24 1:10:14 PM #29: |
Evolician posted... Infinite is a lil bitch and was represented appropriately --- I post clips of my cool, stupid and glitchy MH Sunbreak and Tears of the Kingdom gameplay here just for fun. https://youtube.com/user/linkachu1000 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/18/24 1:16:39 PM #30: |
Animation and coregraphy was A++ so kudos to the animators but Wiz, Boomstick, and the other writers are generally bad They pick and chose what Canon and non-Canon feats they want to use Some of the most egerious was Darkseid beating IG Thanos and Raven beating White Phoenix using non-canon and/ore retconned lore Also Spoilers for Bleach TYBW Manga ending --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 11/18/24 1:45:07 PM #31: |
Kaitouace posted... Correct winner.I agree. However... Necronmon posted... They might want to redue that battle with Ganondorf now...Yeah... I'm not sure if Ganondorf has anything capable of defeating an apparently universal threat that Bowser was shown to be in this episode. Otherwise, amazing fight and animation. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/24 1:49:38 PM #32: |
Charged151 posted... I agree. However... This wasn't Bowser vs Eggman like they did Bowser vs Ganondorf though. Eggman by himself is nothing to Bowser. This was really:
I agree that maybe a redo vs Ganondorf would be appropriate but it's a dramatically different fight. However if Brawl SSE is anything to go by, --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 11/18/24 2:01:50 PM #33: |
Tyranthraxus posted... This wasn't Bowser vs Eggman like they did Bowser vs Ganondorf though. Eggman by himself is nothing to Bowser. This was really:Yeah, I get it was more analogous to the Eggman vs Wily situation instead of a 1 on 1. Also, I'm not sure of something. Is King Boo actually subservient to Bowser? I haven't played a Mario game where I've seen that in action. It was apparently the case in the Mario movie though. Tyranthraxus posted... I agree that maybe a redo vs Ganondorf would be appropriate but it's a dramatically different fight.I would like to see a rematch with the new abilities Bowser displayed. Also... Evolician posted... Infinite is a lil bitch and was represented appropriatelyI'm not familiar with the character, so I can't comment, but...considering that Bowser Jr apparently survived getting hit hard the way they did and got right back up at the ending, I was surprised how quickly Infinite went down. IDK. Maybe I will do some of my own research on the character. Seems multiple people on here loathe the character. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bladesyphon 11/18/24 2:13:31 PM #34: |
Prismsblade posted... It wasnt hand waved, transmutation magic that bowser, Kamak, his son and many others possess all hard counters the metal virus. Aside from that metal power ups are a thing, and his Boo forces are completely immune to it all together. That... Isn't how the Metal Virus was portrayed in the comics - at all. The Metal Virus was probably one of, if not the, greatest threats Eggman unleashed on the planet, because it was an uncontrollable pandemic that had no cure, nor any way to remove it, save for literally going so fast that the Virus degraded. If the Metal Virus was dumped on Bowser, or Jr, or Kamek, or all three at once, the fight would have instantly ended there. Immense exposure to the Metal Virus leads to immediate infection within seconds. By the time any of the three realized what was going on, they would have already been infected, and turned into mindless Zombots. This is made even threatening by the fact that it spreads instantaneously to *anything* organic it comes into contact with. Even with "Plot Magic", there's no conceivable way that Bowswer, Jr, or Kamek would have been able to keep up with the spread of the virus. The moment any one of them became infected with it, it would have taken them - and their "plot magic" - out of the fight immediately, and this is even assuming that the trio would even know what kind of magic spell to use to counter the Metal Virus in a way that doesn't kill the host, something that the literal in-universe characters struggled with in trying to find a way to remove it safely. The Metal Virus isn't a "power up", it was designed to turn whomever it infected into subservient "Zombots" to Eggman, except the Virus was too well designed, to the point where it evolved to not listen to any orders given by it's own creator. The Virus was a literal "If I use this, I win immediately" button for Eggman, which is why Death Battle immediately hand waved it away say "Well magic will nullify it so we didn't bother to include it in Eggman's arsenal in this fight" - it wouldn't have lead to a fun or interesting battle, so it was ignored, something DB is super guilty of doing constantly, because the show is more about the battle itself, rather than an actual realistic portrayal of who would win. Prismsblade posted... Sages simulations are also useless because she has no data on Bowser or his forces. So how could she develop a strategy? And even if she could they dont guarantee anything. So you know how we're saying DB undersold Sage? This is what we're talking about. Sage is the equivalent of Dr. Strange from Infinity War. She's a living, breathing, super computer that is capable of running an untold number of simulations and calculations in real time - something even DB admitted to in their assessment. She would have found the *one* way to guarantee success, even if it was the *only* way, relayed that information to Eggman and his Badniks, and it would have lead to victory, full stop. Her simulations are the equivalent to Strange's "I found the one way we win, Tony", moment in Infinity War. While I'll give DB a pass, begrudgingly, for hand-waving the Metal Virus aside because it would have lead to a very quick, very boring, battle, there's literally no excuse for ignoring Sage's ability, and completely misinterpreting the reason why she wasn't able to find a solution to The End's threat due to her handicap, one that Eggman wouldn't have had in play for the sake of the battle. That still could have lead to an impressive fight that would have played into Eggman's strengths over Bowser's obvious weaknesses. The simple fact is that, while this was a well animated and made fight, the team simply wanted Bowser to win from the get go, and bent the rules in his favor. But as others have said - that's how DB works, they go for the rule of cool, over the actual logistics of who would win. Eggman should have won based on his merits and what he had at his disposal, but for whatever reason, Death Battle thought the fight would be more impressive and fun to watch if Bowser won, so that's how it went. --- -Insert witty signature here- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 2:21:01 PM #35: |
id like to point out the animation is not a representation of anything its just to look cool the actual stats they give are what matters for any power scaling discussion and eggman just does not have any tools that can really over come bowser they went out of there way to give eggman the best possible chance to win this fight by having them both get access to one off power up sand their full armies if it was just eggman vs bowser with base tool kits it would have been a absolute curb stomp --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/24 2:23:51 PM #36: |
Bladesyphon posted... This is made even threatening by the fact that it spreads instantaneously to *anything* organic it comes into contact with. Even with "Plot Magic", there's no conceivable way that Bowswer, Jr, or Kamek would have been able to keep up with the spread of the virus They can literally just turn their entire army to stone and back in a few seconds. Virus extinguished. Bladesyphon posted... there's literally no excuse for ignoring Sage's ability, and completely misinterpreting the reason why she wasn't able to find a solution to The End's threat due to her handicap, one that Eggman wouldn't have had in play for the sake of the battle. Seeing as Eggman did not bring Sonic into the fight with him, I'd have to disagree on the handicap bit. And the scenario trials are irrelevant because literal Mario party feats are included and nobody on Eggman's team has counters to "automatically lose the thing you need to win" powers. Under these rules, if you need an object or item to beat Bowser, then you can't beat Bowser. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 2:25:24 PM #37: |
Tyranthraxus posted... They can literally just turn their entire army to stone and back in a few seconds. Virus extinguished. and again eggman would never use the metal virus as he cant control it --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 11/18/24 2:34:27 PM #38: |
Cool animations, but I feel like Eggman should have won that. If it was just pure hand to hand, then Bowser would curb stomp, but with Eggman's machines he should have the upper hand. But I get that is just supposed to be a cool looking fight, so I'm not going to get all crazy about it lol --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 2:35:49 PM #39: |
NoxObscuras posted... Cool animations, but I feel like Eggman should have won that. If it was just pure hand to hand, then Bowser would curb stomp, but with Eggman's machines he should have the upper hand. But I get that is just supposed to be a cool looking fight, so I'm not going to get all crazy about it lol bowser has tanked every thing eggmans machines could possibly throw at him --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 11/18/24 2:41:25 PM #40: |
AceMos posted... bowser has tanked every thing eggmans machines could possibly throw at himAgree with this. I mean he survived Black Holes and Supernovas. What was Eggman going to do to put him down? --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 2:43:31 PM #41: |
Charged151 posted... I mean he survived Black Holes and Super Novas. What was Eggman going to do to put him down? exactly hell lets go beyond that and remember that extra lives are canon to the mario universe fighting a mario character is like picking a fight with a loony toon not only are they stupid hax but the unique hax they have lets them punch well above their already high weight class --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/24 2:45:27 PM #42: |
Eggman has machines that survived black holes too but as DB pointed out Bowser survived even bigger black holes. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 11/18/24 2:48:35 PM #43: |
AceMos posted... bowser has tanked every thing eggmans machines could possibly throw at himI was thinking just in terms on how easily he loses to Mario. Not that he would actually die lol --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/24 2:51:16 PM #44: |
NoxObscuras posted... I was thinking just in terms on his easily he loses to Mario. Not that he would actually die lol Saying he easily loses to Mario is vastly overstating Mario's abilities. He usually provides Mario with a means to defeat him and has done so since the beginning with the axe on the bridge. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 2:51:37 PM #45: |
NoxObscuras posted... I was thinking just in terms on how easily he loses to Mario. Not that he would actually die lol that just speaks vollumes of marios strength as i said marios universe runs on video game logic sonic while still cartoony does take its self more seriously --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/18/24 3:12:15 PM #46: |
speaking of cartoon logic and loose Canon feats is Mario Party/Kart even Canon to the Mario lore? Might as well use Sonic Shuffle and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog while we're at it You'd think Bowser or Bowser Jr or Kamek would be able to individually the Dragon Ball Verse save Zenos and Angels the way Death Battle portrays them --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 3:15:38 PM #47: |
your doing alot of bitching but not alot of offering any kind of argument --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/24 3:26:36 PM #48: |
GS4Life posted... speaking of cartoon logic and loose Canon feats is Mario Party/Kart even Canon to the Mario lore? "Mario lore" is essentially that they're actually all friends behind the scenes and they're just acting out their roles for our enjoyment. So like, I guess it's canon. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/18/24 3:28:43 PM #49: |
Solaris Alf-Layla-wa-Layla Time Eater Egg Wizard with the Jewel Sceptar Were all confirmed to be above Universal Level threats Dark Gaia and The End while not outright confirmed to to be Universal+ were primordial entities stated to be above Super Sonic who scales to Universal level threats Despite hyping up the Chaos Emeralds Super Neo Metal Sonic wasn't enough of Game changer as well as Sage Death Egg Final Cannon from Sonic Battle which was used destroyed multiple star systems not just one star Eggman has various machines that scale to Super Sonic and while his power ups are often circumstantial so are Bowsers Also it's been a while since I played Mario Galaxy but the Black Hole in that was essentially a reset button not a traditional destructive Black Hole like in Sonic Rush or Colors Everything got sucked into the Black Hole in Galaxy and survived I don't random Toads are Black Hole Level characters --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 11/18/24 3:48:13 PM #50: |
ok and? mario has faced cosmic horrors to --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GS4Life 11/18/24 6:02:12 PM #51: |
AceMos posted... ok and?on average Sonic faces Godly entities a lot more frequently and I haven't seen or heard of anything in Mario that can compare to Solaris While Eggman wouldn't beat Solaris he at least has a few comparable options For Bowser to beat Eggman's entire army he'd have to be able to beat Super Sonic he's just not that powerful You also have to remember it's not all brute force and durability Sonic characters generally have a massive speed advantage too --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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