Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 444: Panic! At the Ballot

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Trump wont live forever. I'm still of the hopeful belief that this wave of MAGA Republicanism ends with him.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Oh so you're actually just a troll then?

Sorry for trying to engage, good bye.

You really think it was a good idea passing on the guy who would've guaranteed her Pennsylvania ?

This is looking like a resounding trump victory. Nothing affected the outcome besides the votes.

Wanglicious posted...

but until then enjoy republicans owning both houses, the executive, the judiciary, and most state governors.

Why do you revel in this given what you've shared about your own living situation in the past. You're so strange.

Why would it? It's a proven model.

damn, dude.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Are you living in a dimension where MAGA is respectful to liberals?

Exactly, I'm so sick and tired of acting like we're the elitists because we don't think a freaking rapist should be President of the United States. But the other side gets to call us pedophiles, groomers, communists and so much worse. And this is all the freaking time!

"Democrats need to tone down their rhetoric!"

Republicans call us fascists all the time. Yet, we get the blame when someone decides to take a shot at Trump. And don't tell me his ear healed that fast. There's no way. I'm sure the shooting wasn't staged, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get injured and played it up for points.

We're always held to a higher standard. I'm sick of it. They can mock Paul Pelosi, and nobody gives a damn. I'm so sick and tired of it from the 'centrists' who aren't really centrists but are far-right lunatics masquerading as centrists to shift the overton window right further and further.,

We always have to take the high ground. they literally held an insurrection, and journalists are suggesting Trump deserves a freaking PARDON. And voters overlooked it. They didn't care. Not one bit. They were cool with it. Some of them probably participated or wished they could. We're always the one who has to figure out how to 'bring the country back together', but NEVER the Republicans. Nobody ever asks Trump how he's going to heal the division. Nobody.

I'm done with it. Screw all the 'centrists' who hold these double standards.

If Shapiro were the running mate we would have seen the knife picture for months on end. It wouldn't have worked out. Even if he delivered PA

I don't think any vp pick changes this

Poor walz. He's so likable

Oookay, so Harris's vote count is surging in PA all of a sudden. 200,000 behind Trump. 8% left.

kevwaffles posted...

If Shapiro were the running mate we would have seen the knife picture for months on end. It wouldn't have worked out. Even if he delivered PA

Shapiro woulda been a better choice for the presidential candidate. Or VP.

Corrik7 posted...

This is looking like a resounding trump victory. Nothing affected the outcome besides the votes.

Yeah if they get the House too then we get exactly the hellscape I've expected for months. I never thought this election would be close.

AuraChannelerCh posted...

Oookay, so Harris's vote count is surging in PA all of a sudden. 200,000 behind Trump. 8% left.

Bro that's not a surge.

SirChris posted...

I don't think any vp pick changes this

Poor walz. He's so likable

I think Walz definitely should've been part of the administration, but not the VP. Shapiro would've secured Pennsylvania. Whether or not it would've been enough we'll never know, but at least it would've been better than what happened.

UltimaterializerX posted...

He has been for a long long time.

Keep pretending like no mistakes were made by Harris.

Less than 200k finally, but these cuts aren't big enough unless they horrifically underestimated how many additional votes we're getting this year compared to 2020

Shapiro loses Michigan and arab voters 100%. Do people not understand that? Kamala had to have a nuanced position on Israel and Gaza because her party was in charge. Well, let's see how they like how Trump hands the west bank to Miriam Adelson.

At this point Trump doesn't need Pennsylvania so even if Shapiro could have swung that state it wouldn't matter.

Prop 36 is very sad. I'm not surprised given how much criticism I've heard directed against Prop 47 which reduced those offenses to misdemeanors but it's sad.

YoBlazer posted...

Why do you revel in this given what you've shared about your own living situation in the past. You're so strange.

you took that as reveling?
for me it's just seeing the map going 'wtf that's a wild increase', being told that it'll change and yeah, agreeing but just shrugging with the reality there. not really reveling in anything, more 'eh, sure.'

Dancedreamer posted...

Shapiro loses Michigan and Arab voters 100%. Do people not understand that?

Michigan is leaning Trump at the moment, so it clearly didn't matter. She may have still lost that state, but Pennsylvania would've given her a real chance at winning.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Prop 34 I know the least about. After doing my research it was my understanding that it was a bad thing, but don't exactly remember why -_- This one is close as well though so perhaps it will change to the good result.

It's bad - it basically exists to punish a group that advocated for Prop 33 and is propped up by landlord organizations.

This is a system rot that is hard to overturn. So much racism. Sexism. Lack of education.

Like the best thing for my mental health is just checking out. It's not going to hurt me much tbh. But that is also the complete opposite of how my brain works

America got what it wanted and it wasn't that close

red_sox_777 posted...

At this point Trump doesn't need Pennsylvania so even if Shapiro could have swung that state it wouldn't matter.

Shapiro would've had an impact on the other states as well. Overall, he would've provided her with a higher chance at winning this.

Donald Trump winning is guaranteed to make things worse for Gazans. Not voting for Harris because of Gaza was a ridiculous thing to do for anyone who actually cared more about the impact of their vote than virtue signaling.

Vegeta-the-4th posted...

Shapiro would've had an impact on the other states as well. Overall, he would've provided her with a higher chance at winning this.

Walz is the highest rated mfer in the race and this is your conclusion?

Enough.

Idk if anything helps her. Inflation and economy seemed to be the number 1 issue across the board and anyone associated to biden was gonna be tied to it.

https://twitter.com/latenightercom/status/1854033346734821391

SirChris posted...

This is a system rot that is hard to overturn. So much racism. Sexism. Lack of education.

Like the best thing for my mental health is just checking out. It's not going to hurt me much tbh. But that is also the complete opposite of how my brain works

America got what it wanted and it wasn't that close

I'm going to be pretty crushed if this holds up.

And yeah, as a cis white male I'm going to be among the least affected by whatever is coming our way, but I allowed myself to believe we had the capacity to be BETTER than the misogynistic, racist, ignorant mob that we turned out to be.

I guess having taken multiple US History classes I shouldn't be surprised, but here we are.

LordoftheMorons posted...

Donald Trump winning is guaranteed to make things worse for Gazans.

How ? Biden has been letting Israel wipe them off the map for over a year, and now the same is happening in Lebanon. At this point Trump can just be an improvement for those people.

shapiro could've won PA but i think he's a net negative overall compared to Walz. i believe that was one of the better choices she could've had; it was a worthwhile challenge to see what she could do to keep that blue wall. foolmo could've been right in saying Kelly was the best option as he's the best of both worlds (good personality, good speech ability, major state) but i don't think the VP matters here, harris looks like she choked.

I wonder if the days of having one party in the white house for two terms in a row are behind us.

Okay, so, disaster prep plan in motion. The fuck do I do now? I was gonna quit work and try to sort out the shambles that is my personal life as it was, and now I have this on my plate.

Vegeta-the-4th posted...

How ? Biden has been letting Israel wipe them off the map for over a year, and now the same is happening in Lebanon. At this point Trump can just be an improvement for those people.

you sound like a deeply unserious person

I wonder if biden is secretly happy cuz he seemed salty about having been forced to drop out.

Kenri posted...

you sound like a deeply unserious person

Tell me how can things get worse for them ?

Corrik7 posted...

I wonder if biden is secretly happy cuz he seemed salty about having been forced to drop out.

There's going to be a lot of conversations about whether or not that was a mistake. Biden was removed to avoid what happened tonight, but it didn't work.

I don't think Kamala is to blame, nor is the VP pick, nor is Trump to be lauded.

Voters are uninformed and blamed the current administration for inflation. If Trump was president, we'd be seeing a dominant blue map.

Voters are politically illiterate and no amount of campaigning can fix that.

PA shoulda been called alrdy.

I'm sure Biden is not happy. Possible he's bitter and thinks he could have won it, sure (though I very much doubt he'd have done better than Harris).

Wisconsin has been called

FOX has him over 270

I'm sure many more networks are soon to follow

lol, fox news just called Trump as winner right before hes about to speak

Vegeta-the-4th posted...

At this point Trump can just be an improvement for those people.

you can shut the fuck right up.

Trump has said on MULTIPLE occasions that Israel needs to "finish the job".

he isn't even trying to hide it, he will give Israel the full backing to ethnically cleanse the entire region of anyone they deem fit. At least Harris was advocating for a 2 state solution.

And you should really just stop talking about issues you aren't the faintest bit informed about.

Corrik7 posted...

I wonder if biden is secretly happy cuz he seemed salty about having been forced to drop out.

Biden isn't a petty narcissist. I never thought he was a particularly strong candidate (even in 2020), but he did earnestly serve his country his entire life. Don't apply Trump standards to him.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Trump has said on MULTIPLE occasions that Israel needs to "finish the job".

he isn't even trying to hide it, he will give Israel the full backing to ethnically cleanse the entire region of anyone they deem fit. At least Harris was advocating for a 2 state solution.

So basically what Biden's been doing ?

As someone who supported the idea of Biden stepping down, I can't help but wonder if that was a mistake.

YoBlazer posted...

Biden isn't a petty narcissist. I never thought he was a particularly strong candidate (even in 2020), but he did earnestly serve his country his entire life. Don't apply Trump standards to him.

All the reports said he was pretty pissed at Pelosi and those who ran him out.

guffguy89 posted...

lol, fox news just called Trump as winner right before hes about to speak

So did News Nation.

Like a wise political analyst once said about predicting elections: "It's the economy, stupid!"

I think the only thing I'm willing to call clear strategy misstep was that despite all the vibes at the time, "skipping" a primary was a mistake. Or at the very least ended up doing no favors.