Poll of the Day > Would you rather have the 7 Dragonballs or the Death Note?

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You are given either one and then you can do what you want with it

Which do you take?

What does the death note do?

MICHALECOLE posted...

What does the death note do?

makes you as cool as Light Yagami

I feel like the Dragon Balls could do the same as the Death Note and more.

Damn_Underscore posted...

makes you as cool as Light Yagami

Who is light yagami?

easy dragonballs

MICHALECOLE posted...

Who is light yagami?

The top student nationwide in Japan.

Can't you only use the dragon balls once?

Linze posted...

The top student nationwide in Japan.

Nice. He does sound pretty cool

but really though what does the death note do?

Zareth posted...

Can't you only use the dragon balls once?

Once you use them they turn to stone and can't be used again for a year I think

The nice thing about the dragonballs is you can't say any BS like "I'll just wish for more wishes" because Shenron won't allow that

Damn_Underscore posted...

The nice thing about the dragonballs is you can't say any BS like "I'll just wish for more wishes" because Shenron won't allow that

But you could just wish for godlike power and then you wouldn't really need more wishes.

Dragonballs.

Damn_Underscore posted...

Once you use them they turn to stone and can't be used again for a year I think

they also get shot in random directions and have to be located again.

Dragon balls.
The death note takes your soul if you use it. So sure you could go through the wiki of the world's worst dictators but it wouldn't really solve much.

Which variation of the Dragon Balls? If single-wish, I'll just go Death Note. If multiple-wish, I'll wish for a Death Note and a Dragon radar.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Nice. He does sound pretty cool

but really though what does the death note do?

You write a person's name in it, and they die.

the death note has some kind of terrible side effects, so the dragonballs are a much safer choice

ParanoidObsessive posted...

But you could just wish for godlike power and then you wouldn't really need more wishes.

at best you can only wish for strength up to Kami's power if we're going by original earth dragonballs. who is still fuckin strong and would break earth's balance, but weaker than the dbz crew at the start of the series

and I don't think anyone's ever actually wished for power, so he might be able to give less power than Kami has. namek magic balls seem to just solve specific problems whenever you need them to

I'll take the balls and keep my happiness on a selfish, private basis.

I'm not here to execute people and change society, man.

DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...

You write a person's name in it, and they die.

Id take that for the good of the world

Dragon Balls. I'll just wish for eternal youth and immortality. I'll first wish for a Dragon Radar so that I can obtain them again and get my immortality wish the next year. After that, I can make a new wish every year.

SinisterSlay posted...

The death note takes your soul if you use it.

Sorry, what gave you that idea? If its the whole can't go to heaven/hell thing, that was Ryuk trying to scare Light, he confirms there is no heaven/hell, all humans go to "Mu" which is nothing.

The only penalty is if you take the eye deal, you lose half your life span.

The limitations of the Dragon Balls are decided by the power/magic of the Namekian who generated the balls. So for example, a much weaker guy would make a set that has 3 Dragon Balls which is easier to gather but less things you can do with your wishes.

That being said, just having the Dragon Balls without some magic Namekian there would just turn them into pretty accessories just like Infinite Stones when taken out of their native world. Best you would be able to do is sell them to some rich Dragon Ball fan for lots of money.

Dragon Balls.

agesboy posted...

but weaker than the dbz crew at the start of the series

Yeah, but that's mainly because everyone in that show was insanely overpowered. Even the joke characters.

But this topic isn't asking which universe you'd rather live in, as much as it's implying bringing those things into our universe.

And you could probably wish yourself powerful enough for our universe, where none of those other characters exist. Almost certainly powerful enough to murder pretty much anyone you want without needing a Death Note.

Imagine being Superman in a world without Kryptonite, and without any other heroes or villains to stop you. Now imagine being even more powerful than that. There's no real reason why the wish couldn't do that.



agesboy posted...

and I don't think anyone's ever actually wished for power, so he might be able to give less power than Kami has.

That's less a power limitation and more the fact that the characters are all stupid honorable warrior types. They all want to work hard and become stronger on their own without "cheating". There's nothing that inherently says you can't.

Plus, in their universe you kind of need to be powerful already to collect them at all, so they have even less motivation to make that wish. But in this scenario they're just being given to you.

dragonballs

3 wishes

give me a fully functioning death note
give me all the powers and abilities and knowledge of said abilities that superman has
make taco bell bring back 79 cent tacos

Anyone who says they want a death note instead of magic orbs that can grant any (reasonable) wish should be on a list. Normal people have basically 0 use for something that can only kill people and isn't fun to use like a gun.

If I get at least two wishes, Dragon Balls. Wish for a crap ton of money and a working Dragon Radar, because the only way I'd get to use them again is if I had both the ability to track them down across the world after they scatter, and the money to actually do it.

keyblader1985 posted...

If I get at least two wishes, Dragon Balls. Wish for a crap ton of money and a working Dragon Radar, because the only way I'd get to use them again is if I had both the ability to track them down across the world after they scatter, and the money to actually do it.

And then they turn into shadow dragons. So be careful.

But with badness levels inversely proportional to the nature of the wish. As long as I keep making selfish wishes, there's no problem.

How specific do you have to be with your Dragonball wishes? Can they be corrupted like an asshole genie?

Zareth posted...

How specific do you have to be with your Dragonball wishes? Can they be corrupted like an asshole genie?

he doesn't corrupt wishes on purpose but you do have to be specific, pilaf and his gang were going for eternal youth but got turned into children instead

SomeUsername529 posted...

Anyone who says they want a death note instead of magic orbs that can grant any (reasonable) wish should be on a list. Normal people have basically 0 use for something that can only kill people and isn't fun to use like a gun.

"guy dies on live tv execution style during his interview"

you think that wouldn't be fun

with a death note, you can wield much more than a gun y'know

SomeUsername529 posted...

Anyone who says they want a death note instead of magic orbs that can grant any (reasonable) wish should be on a list. Normal people have basically 0 use for something that can only kill people and isn't fun to use like a gun.

What list would they be on?

I am unfamiliar with the limitations on the dragon balls so am inclined to go Death Note just based on more info on it. If the dragon can grant mind or time control im game, otherwise the book for me.

agesboy posted...

he doesn't corrupt wishes on purpose but you do have to be specific, pilaf and his gang were going for eternal youth but got turned into children instead

That sounds pretty dickish TBH

i feel like Goku ended up being the reason they got turned to kids though

ConfusedTorchic posted...

i feel like Goku ended up being the reason they got turned to kids though

in GT pilaf accidentally turned goku into a kid during a fight due to an offhand comment he made, but in the mainline series it happened offscreen after the buu saga

Dragonballs

I can just wish for a death note

I think people are unfamilar with the idea of dragonballs. You can't wish to be super powerful, only to have your physical limit enhanced. They're not the Super Dragonballs so you can't just wish for Gokus body, for example.

You can't wish for things beyond Shenrons power, so magicking in a death note is gone.

Still though, one decent wish to improve your life? You could wish only one person back from the dead I suppose if its the OG Dragonballs? Or for money?

Death note might help you sleep better by you eliminating all the wrong doers from the world, but...then you might be tempted to blackmail people. Or write all those who disagree with you, such as republicans or democrats who actively make choices to make the world a worser place in your view.

I think Dragonballs it is

Sega9599 posted...

You can't wish for things beyond Shenrons power, so magicking in a death note is gone.

the only limitation shenron has for killing is that it cannot kill something more powerful than itself

so a death note would work just fine since it can only kill people and nothing else

ConfusedTorchic posted...

the only limitation shenron has for killing is that it cannot kill something more powerful than itself

so a death note would work just fine since it can only kill people and nothing else

Which is an arbitrary limit. The example is killing the Saiyans. But they could have wished an asteroid hit their pod and it flies into the sun. Problem solved. Shenron isn't weak, the characters are just stupid.

I don't think a death note is actually useful unless you're a psychopath

ConfusedTorchic posted...

"guy dies on live tv execution style during his interview"

you think that wouldn't be fun

with a death note, you can wield much more than a gun y'know

Yes this is exactly the psychotic sort of answer that makes it clear that anyone who would ask for a death note should be in a CIA black site with a bag on their head 24 hours a day.

SomeUsername529 posted...

Yes this is exactly the psychotic sort of answer that makes it clear that anyone who would ask for a death note should be in a CIA black site with a bag on their head 24 hours a day.

Weird youre talking about how its wrong to kill but youre okay with somebody being in a cia black site with a bag on their head 24 hours a day

what if they used the death note to only kill rapists and murderers

SinisterSlay posted...

Which is an arbitrary limit. The example is killing the Saiyans. But they could have wished an asteroid hit their pod and it flies into the sun. Problem solved. Shenron isn't weak, the characters are just stupid.

DBZ does not work at all when people try and pick it apart like its Hunter x Hunter or something. The show is just a bunch of really cool stuff that doesn't hold up to the slightest scrutiny. Nothing that happens in DBZ could be made more interesting by wondering "What if [x character] did [really clever thing]?" because deep strategy and careful manipulation of properties/rules is diametrically opposed to Toriyama's writing.

"What if DBZ but with at least one or two people that can both fight have an IQ higher than 85?" is a cool premise but its pretty close to Hunter x Hunter or Jujutsu Kaisen.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Weird youre talking about how its wrong to kill but youre okay with somebody being in a cia black site with a bag on their head 24 hours a day

what if they used the death note to only kill rapists and murderers

Oh yeah, my bad. Clearly indiscriminate murder and imprisoning (aspiring) psychotic indiscriminate murderers are exactly the same thing and equally bad.

And like, did you ever read or watch Death Note? The life path of that Yagami Light fellow is probably relevant to this discussion.

SomeUsername529 posted...

Oh yeah, my bad. Clearly indiscriminate murder and imprisoning (aspiring) psychotic indiscriminate murderers are exactly the same thing and equally bad.

And like, did you ever read or watch Death Note? The life path of that Yagami Light fellow is probably relevant to this discussion.

No I already said I dont know what it is

I do think there are a lot of people that if they died the world would be a much better place though, and I am not a psychopath

And what you described is literally cruel, torturous punishment so..

SomeUsername529 posted...

Yes this is exactly the psychotic sort of answer that makes it clear that anyone who would ask for a death note should be in a CIA black site with a bag on their head 24 hours a day.

or it's a fantastical scenario that literally will never happen because it physically can never happen so you can just have fun with it

MICHALECOLE posted...

No I already said I dont know what it is

I do think there are a lot of people that if they died the world would be a much better place though, and I am not a psychopath

Your "what if" scenario of using a death note to only kill bad people is literally the premise of the series. And if it isn't obvious by now it turns out that the guy who takes it upon himself to cleanse the Earth of "bad people" ends up not being the hero. Huge twist, I know.

And again, in the specific scenario of someone being offered dragon balls (literally any wish within reason can be yours and possibly many more in the future if you work hard) or a death note (an apocalyptic murder device that can do nothing but deliberately assassinate people in inhumane ways) and them openly declaring "please! please! give me the murder tool so I can use it!" there is no moral question about cutting that person off from society forever.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

or it's a fantastical scenario that literally will never happen because it physically can never happen so you can just have fun with it

I also understand that this not a real scenario, dude. I'm not literally on the phone with the CIA trying to track you down. I do also think saying "man it would be a huge thrill to just execute some fucker on live tv" is a messed up fantasy to have when the only context is "what would it be like to have a death note" as opposed to "I'm playing Hitman on Discord with my friends" or whatever.

brother i did not once say i would be a hero