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CyricZ
08/19/24 1:00:30 PM
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Or maybe it just feels like "many" since it's such a pain to get back to them.

And I haven't had time to properly register their moves to the point where I can reliably last against them.

I have like two Dark Hands from trawling the path multiple times. Only one Slab, though.

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TheBreadedOne
08/19/24 1:02:00 PM
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Keep hitting them as they fade out you can still do damage to them.

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R1masher
08/19/24 1:02:47 PM
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Dark wood grain ring Iframes roll their attacks and mash R1

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Baron_Ox
08/19/24 1:03:25 PM
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such a shitty boss, IMO.

also, having to give up a ring slot to fight them is lame.

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HighSeraph
08/19/24 1:04:02 PM
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Acquire mace, let the bonking begin

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Raycon
08/19/24 1:05:28 PM
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I gave up on fighting this one fair. Full Havel's + Iron Flesh + Magic Weapon my way through that every time, even up to NG+++.

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CyricZ
08/19/24 1:35:06 PM
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R1masher posted...
Dark wood grain ring
Missed out on that one.

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KajeI
08/19/24 1:38:27 PM
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They're not a good boss tbh. It's just a DPS check, the easy way to deal with it is when you get to the drop put on the heaviest armor you have with the highest poise and highest magic defense (Havel is typically recommended, but the stone guardian set under the stairs in Darkroot near Alvina work too) and the strongest weapon you have, then just run up and poise+heal tank through it and keep swinging on them during their death animation.

It's absolutely brainless.

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CyricZ
08/19/24 2:00:41 PM
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At this point? Works for me.

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Cemith
08/19/24 2:01:56 PM
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Yeah if you didn't get the Havel's gear yet just use it and a strong weapon to face tank.

4 Kings is cool thematically but as a fight is really wack


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UnholyMudcrab
08/19/24 2:06:35 PM
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Even without Havel's armor, I still don't bother trying to dodge their attacks. Just run directly up and start wailing on them. They do like no damage when you're right next to them.

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KajeI
08/19/24 2:53:31 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Even without Havel's armor, I still don't bother trying to dodge their attacks. Just run directly up and start wailing on them. They do like no damage when you're right next to them.
Oh yeah, this is true. IIRC the hitbox close to them is the handle or arm hitbox and it does less than the blade hitbox.

Havel is just there to let you mash uninterrupted for most of it, the magic damage reduction is just icing. Depending on how upgraded your flasks are and how much max HP you have you might need an upgraded bonfire to have enough.

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CyricZ
08/19/24 2:55:50 PM
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I'm just gonna have to put up with fatty roll I guess. :)))

I have wondered why I go through so many fights in this game expecting to roll a lot when I'm mostly taking it to my shield.

(It's because I really hate fat roll it makes me sad)

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Cemith
08/19/24 2:56:51 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I'm just gonna have to put up with fatty roll I guess. :)))

I have wondered why I go through so many fights in this game expecting to roll a lot when I'm mostly taking it to my shield.

(It's because I really hate fat roll it makes me sad)

The quintessential first playthrough build is fully naked fast roll with a giant ass weapon + pyromancy glove

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KajeI
08/19/24 2:57:37 PM
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Don't even roll. Literally just sprint and mash R1 and heal when you're within their kill range.

Blocking is OP in all of them, it's just that DS2 onward really want you to be using greatshields to actually block tank. But in DS1 poise tanking is insane for the first playthrough, which is why it's been nerfed so much in each game afterwards.

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sfcalimari
08/19/24 3:25:53 PM
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Never had much trouble against them with a +10 uchigatana and a greatshield. Getting back to them is a bit annoying but you can rush past everything once you know the route.

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BlackOmnimon
08/19/24 3:29:10 PM
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I remember them being easy with magic. I don't remember if you can get hexes from the DLC at that point but they're OP

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Unknown5uspect
08/19/24 3:32:48 PM
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Put fire on your weapon and swing for the fences. There isn't much to it other than that.

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Fluttershy
08/19/24 3:33:25 PM
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I have like two Dark Hands from trawling the path multiple times. Only one Slab, though.

last time i went farming for slabs i ended up with 23 dark hands.

are you playing online and are you on PC? there's a player going around ruining saves at the moment.

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evilpresident
08/19/24 3:43:49 PM
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If you do it bad enough, you can end up fighting Five Kings.

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Kuuko
08/19/24 3:47:33 PM
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evilpresident posted...
If you do it bad enough, you can end up fighting Five Kings.
True. You can also fight less than Four Kings. Because the boss health bar is just one King health multiplied by 4. But you can attack them while they're in their death animation so if you do a bunch of damage to them while they're dying you can win the fight early.

The whole thing is pretty jank. But New Londo is probably one of the more rushed together areas of the game so not surprising.

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Sandalorn
08/19/24 3:48:54 PM
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Worst hit boxes in all of FROM soft games. I always felt like I just got lucky when I beat them.
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DodogamaRayBrst
08/19/24 3:50:11 PM
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Wait, you kill all the dark wraiths on the way there?
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CyricZ
08/19/24 4:07:10 PM
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Wait, you kill all the dark wraiths on the way there?
Some runs I trust myself to get through on running, some I don't.

This is the latter.

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DodogamaRayBrst
08/19/24 4:09:00 PM
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That's...

Oh man.
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CyricZ
08/19/24 4:20:21 PM
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Honestly it's not that hard and y'know... farming is nice there.

I got myself a Jagged Ghost Blade so I can pop the ghosts showing up.

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Fluttershy
08/19/24 4:22:15 PM
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using a dark hand as a shield is a good way to deal with their magic. 80% is nothing to sneeze at.

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KajeI
08/19/24 4:31:14 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Some runs I trust myself to get through on running, some I don't.

This is the latter.
I did it the hard way too on my first playthrough. One of these might help in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbRxY0zm7KM
or this one, which I what I do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdgZ-Wm0FZo

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CyricZ
08/19/24 5:37:01 PM
#29:


Well got it in one.

Thanks team. :)

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HighSeraph
08/19/24 8:25:13 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Well got it in one.

Thanks team. :)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c4648eaf.jpg

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Tropicalwood
08/19/24 8:27:21 PM
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Literally all you have to do is go full Havel and walk up to them. They have a hard enough time killing you at level 1.

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andri_g
08/20/24 12:21:07 AM
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HighSeraph posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c4648eaf.jpg
Sammy Greiner, aka Success Kid, is 18 now. :P

https://www.demilked.com/people-from-memes-today/
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IIRC, I beat the four kings *unassisted* on my first attempt with an upgraded Mace and Heater Shield.

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Mistere_Man
08/20/24 12:31:25 AM
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HighSeraph posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c4648eaf.jpg

Ok that is perfect!

andri_g posted...
Sammy Greiner, aka Success Kid, is 18 now. :P

https://www.demilked.com/people-from-memes-today/
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Ok now I feel old.

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not_KDTProjekt
08/20/24 12:31:54 AM
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Stack poise. Mash R1. Heal as needed.
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evilpresident
08/20/24 3:48:22 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Well got it in one.

Thanks team. :)
Hell yeah

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TreyFlowers
08/20/24 4:52:24 AM
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hey cyric

*huggles*

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ArkThompson
08/20/24 5:02:09 AM
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KajeI posted...
They're not a good boss tbh. It's just a DPS check, the easy way to deal with it is when you get to the drop put on the heaviest armor you have with the highest poise and highest magic defense (Havel is typically recommended, but the stone guardian set under the stairs in Darkroot near Alvina work too) and the strongest weapon you have, then just run up and poise+heal tank through it and keep swinging on them during their death animation.

It's absolutely brainless.

This is how I did it at low SL. You don't even need to dodge.
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Fluttershy
08/20/24 5:07:43 AM
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low SL

there are only two types of players that bother with beating the four kings at low sl and i don't think cyric is an invader.

also this 'only one slab though' bullshit. ridiculously lucky.

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CyricZ
08/20/24 10:50:28 AM
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So I may have died to Artorias like 20 times but I'm fine with it because he's a great boss fight.

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CyricZ
08/20/24 6:36:35 PM
#40:


All right, Dark Souls 1 complete. My third Souls game.

I didn't kill Priscilla or Gwyndolin, so technically "missed" those boss fights.

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andri_g
08/20/24 7:46:17 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
Ok now I feel old.
Fun fact: "Success Kid" wasn't the original caption. The original was "I Hate Sandcastles" after he took a swipe out of a sandcastle--that's why his raised fist is full of sand.

On the upside, his negative experience with sand could have turned out a lot worse than it did. :P

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Baron_Ox
08/20/24 7:52:30 PM
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CyricZ posted...
All right, Dark Souls 1 complete. My third Souls game.
which ones have you beaten?

besides this, I'm assuming Elden Ring?

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Gwynevere
08/20/24 7:53:18 PM
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That's about the point of DS1 that I wanna check out and play something else

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CyricZ
08/20/24 8:01:32 PM
#45:


Baron_Ox posted...
which ones have you beaten?

besides this, I'm assuming Elden Ring?
Yep, first was Elden Ring, second was Bloodborne.

Next up is Demon's Souls!

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Baron_Ox
08/20/24 8:14:29 PM
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nice.

original or remake?

I like both, but some purists believe something was lost with the latter.

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Mistere_Man
08/20/24 10:32:06 PM
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CyricZ posted...
All right, Dark Souls 1 complete. My third Souls game.

I didn't kill Priscilla or Gwyndolin, so technically "missed" those boss fights.

Then you didnt finish! Get back in there and take those two to pound town!

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evilpresident
08/21/24 2:21:02 AM
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Leave fluffy tail waifu alone, she's harmless.

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gna647
08/21/24 2:23:30 AM
#49:


Raycon posted...
I gave up on fighting this one fair. Full Havel's + Iron Flesh + Magic Weapon my way through that every time, even up to NG+++.

this is the way. Ive done it this way for years lmao
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sfcalimari
08/21/24 2:24:55 AM
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CyricZ posted...
All right, Dark Souls 1 complete. My third Souls game.

I didn't kill Priscilla or Gwyndolin, so technically "missed" those boss fights.

Played ds1 regularly for like 10 years before I even found about the second one.

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