Current Events > Trump picks JD Vance (R-OH) as his Vice Presidential nominee

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UndefeatedGOAT
07/15/24 6:32:49 PM
#201:


Antifar posted...
Who is the candidate that would have upside?

someone with better coverage, RFK, Tulsi, someone thats vocally pro palestine, or a blue republican
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DrizztLink
07/15/24 6:33:18 PM
#202:


UndefeatedGOAT posted...
RFK
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Deegs
07/15/24 6:33:57 PM
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I don't think it ends well for his Senate seat if Trump wins but this probably plays well for Trump being a pro-American labor candidate and probably plays well in the Rust Belt too. JD Vance is probably the most populist and most Pro-Labor Senator the GOP has outside of maybe Josh Hawley who stunted his ascent on Jan 6th.


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ClayGuida
07/15/24 6:34:03 PM
#204:


Still think Noem was the choice, then she tanked her chances.

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Deej
07/15/24 6:36:17 PM
#205:


UndefeatedGOAT posted...
someone with better coverage, RFK, Tulsi, someone thats vocally pro palestine, or a blue republican
lmao

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Deegs
07/15/24 6:37:48 PM
#206:


ClayGuida posted...
Still think Noem was the choice, then she tanked her chances.

Absolutely was. She basically ended her political career by proudly saying she killed a misbehaving dog.

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Antifar
07/15/24 6:41:33 PM
#207:


UndefeatedGOAT posted...
someone thats vocally pro palestine,
He was picking a Republican.

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Frolex
07/15/24 6:41:42 PM
#208:


Trump learned his lesson from Pence stopping his coup and selected a VP who's literal only qualification is how much of a sycophant he'll be. He doesn't need to pick someone to appeal to the (no longer existent, if it ever did at all) moderate wing of the party anymore.

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UltimateWing
07/15/24 6:45:30 PM
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I do love how social media has receipts about how anti-Trump Vance was before. Too bad everyone else remembers. Now, I can imagine Vance literally kissing Trumps feet.

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argonautweakend
07/15/24 6:49:00 PM
#210:


You cannot make this up:

JD Vance at one point in the past called Trump "America's Hitler"

https://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZLBR&pc=MOZI&q=jd+vance+trump+americas+hitler

Vance just got done yesterday waxing poetic about how "The Left's/media's rhetoric did this" in regards to the Trump shooting

So his own rhetoric contributed to Trump getting shot.

This pick is for sure a head scratcher the deeper you dig.
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ClayGuida
07/15/24 6:49:59 PM
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I'm also curious if Trump's internal polling says he may have problems winning Ohio and that's why he chose Vance.

That's supposedly why Hillary selected Kaine, because at the time, while Virginia was blue, his choice all but secured Virginia for them.

Why does it seem that most of these VP picks are absolute nobodies. John Edwards was probably the last VP candidate worth a shit and that was 2004.

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argonautweakend
07/15/24 6:50:11 PM
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"How JD Vance went from calling Donald Trump Americas Hitler to his running mate"

This has to be satire, but no it is not!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-jd-vance-went-from-calling-donald-trump-america-s-***ler-to-his-running-mate/ar-BB1q2aOQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

replace * with hitler
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ClayGuida
07/15/24 6:51:10 PM
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lol, shitler.

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Antifar
07/15/24 6:51:26 PM
#214:


ClayGuida posted...
I'm also curious if Trump's internal polling says he may have problems winning Ohio and that's why he chose Vance.
I would be incredibly surprised if this were the case.

ClayGuida posted...
Why does it seem that most of these VP picks are absolute nobodies.
There really aren't a lot of places to be between the Senate and VP. What more could Harris or Biden have done to be a somebody?

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argonautweakend
07/15/24 6:51:36 PM
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even the obfuscated text flag cannot believe it.
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Starks
07/15/24 6:52:29 PM
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Vance could be poison to suburban voters.

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Quorthon109
07/15/24 6:54:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1812942857835360680

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Diceheist
07/15/24 6:55:06 PM
#218:


Antifar posted...

Who is the candidate that would have upside?

Almost anyone else considered lol. Vance is almost a bottom-tier pick, only above the insane lane of MTG/Vivek/Lake/Noem. He might simultaneously be an even more electorally useless pick than Tim Kaine and functionally useless pick than Kamala Harris. Vance:

- isn't particularly politically experienced or effective at campaigning.
- isn't particularly well-connected to the broader GOP donor or media class (only has a few prominent supporters like Thiel and Carlson). GOP's already dropping hit pieces on him.
- doesn't help ideologically unite the party, basically being a Trump duplicate.
- doesn't boost Trump in any swing states.
- doesn't help draw in any demographics Trump's shaky with.
- doesn't energize MAGA voters since he used to be anti-Trump. (I'm seeing him being called stuff like Romney 2.0, it's wild)
- doesn't entice non-MAGA voters since he's MAGA.

He's... really young? Well-spoken? Literally the only two benefits to his presence. Meanwhile he's moderate, suburban, woman, and minority repellant by being one of the most radical and repugnant MAGA trolls in the GOP.

Go over any other pick from the 2000s and I can work out the logic for choosing them. This is transparently just Trump picking the guy who kissed his ass the best.

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DrizztLink
07/15/24 6:55:30 PM
#219:


"immigrants, Muslims, etc."

Just oozing empathy.

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HighSeraph
07/15/24 6:56:25 PM
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It's almost depressing to see the way Republicans went from before MAGA to the ass kissing clowns they are now.

Like they obviously hold no actual beliefs and just say/do whatever they think their base wants to hear

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07/15/24 7:02:22 PM
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Diceheist
07/15/24 7:04:44 PM
#221:


HighSeraph posted...
It's almost depressing to see the way Republicans went from before MAGA to the ass kissing clowns they are now.

Like they obviously hold no actual beliefs and just say/do whatever they think their base wants to hear

Indeed.

Note that all the NeverTrump Vance posts were from before Trump actually won. He was only saying that stuff because he assumed Trump was unelectable and didn't want the GOP to follow a loser off the cliff. As soon as Trump won he went dead silent.

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Charged151
07/15/24 7:06:15 PM
#222:


ClayGuida posted...
I'm also curious if Trump's internal polling says he may have problems winning Ohio and that's why he chose Vance.

That's supposedly why Hillary selected Kaine, because at the time, while Virginia was blue, his choice all but secured Virginia for them.

Why does it seem that most of these VP picks are absolute nobodies. John Edwards was probably the last VP candidate worth a shit and that was 2004.
That was my first though as well. Ohio is important to win. It helps to have someone from the state on the ticket to win the state.

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Quorthon109
07/15/24 7:10:23 PM
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Diceheist
07/15/24 7:11:13 PM
#224:


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/ohio/trump-vs-biden

Every public Ohio poll has Trump up 8 to 11 points and he won it by 8 points in both 2016 and 2020.

If his internals showed him somehow losing it this year then he's definitely having much bigger problems in other states that would've been more important to address.

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Dark_twisted
07/15/24 7:16:11 PM
#225:


Charged151 posted...
That was my first though as well. Ohio is important to win. It helps to have someone from the state on the ticket to win the state.
Bunch of fuckin ignorant rednecks here. He's gonna have no trouble winning it.

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Humble_Novice
07/15/24 7:17:09 PM
#226:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOoxXPghdvM
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PowerMan5000000
07/15/24 7:17:58 PM
#227:


Why not continue with Pence?

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Unsuprised_Pika
07/15/24 7:18:40 PM
#228:


DrizztLink posted...
If you think they won't fall in line you haven't been paying attention.

Its about motivating dems to turnout and turning fence sitters away from Trump.

Nobody is expecting Trump to lose more then a sliver of republicans from a VP pick.

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Tired-Insomniac
07/15/24 7:18:51 PM
#229:


PowerMan5000000 posted...
Why not continue with Pence?

He almost got Pence killed. Pence wants nothing to do with Trump/MAGA now.

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MaxEffingBemis
07/15/24 7:18:58 PM
#230:


Diceheist posted...
Almost anyone else considered lol. Vance is almost a bottom-tier pick, only above the insane lane of MTG/Vivek/Lake/Noem. He might simultaneously be an even more electorally useless pick than Tim Kaine and functionally useless pick than Kamala Harris. Vance:

- isn't particularly politically experienced or effective at campaigning.
- isn't particularly well-connected to the broader GOP donor or media class (only has a few prominent supporters like Thiel and Carlson). GOP's already dropping hit pieces on him.
- doesn't help ideologically unite the party, basically being a Trump duplicate.
- doesn't boost Trump in any swing states.
- doesn't help draw in any demographics Trump's shaky with.
- doesn't energize MAGA voters since he used to be anti-Trump. (I'm seeing him being called stuff like Romney 2.0, it's wild)
- doesn't entice non-MAGA voters since he's MAGA.

He's... really young? Well-spoken? Literally the only two benefits to his presence. Meanwhile he's moderate, suburban, woman, and minority repellant by being one of the most radical and repugnant MAGA trolls in the GOP.

Go over any other pick from the 2000s and I can work out the logic for choosing them. This is transparently just Trump picking the guy who kissed his ass the best.
Out of curiosity what was the logic behind the Palin pick

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thronedfire2
07/15/24 7:19:30 PM
#231:


PowerMan5000000 posted...
Why not continue with Pence?

lol

this is probably one of your best posts ever

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HighSeraph
07/15/24 7:20:12 PM
#232:


PowerMan5000000 posted...
Why not continue with Pence?
Probably the nooses tbh

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Tired-Insomniac
07/15/24 7:27:40 PM
#233:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Out of curiosity what was the logic behind the Palin pick

She was hot

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Diceheist
07/15/24 7:28:18 PM
#234:


MaxEffingBemis posted...

Out of curiosity what was the logic behind the Palin pick

Basically McCain was an old soft-spoken moderate man, while Palin was a younger lively hard-right woman, so she was chosen to bridge ideological and demographical gaps that McCain couldn't clear on his own. Additionally the opposing ticket introduced the prospect of electing the first black president, so McCain attempted to counter that with the prospect of electing the first woman vice president (McCain did get 15% of Hillary's primary voters to flip to him in the general, so this play may have had some amount of success).

She was a good pick in theory but terrible in practice due to being crazy. It's like if Trump had picked Noem but then she released her dog killing book; decent pick in theory that would've ended up being bad in practice.

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DrizztLink
07/15/24 7:28:39 PM
#235:


Tired-Insomniac posted...
She was hot
They were going for "folksy," got "stupid," and decided to make that their central strategy.

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UndefeatedGOAT
07/15/24 7:34:03 PM
#236:


DrizztLink posted...
lol

you get that 5% immediately if you pick him he could win over 40 states
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thronedfire2
07/15/24 7:36:19 PM
#237:


Tired-Insomniac posted...
She was hot

she wasn't even hot until the porn parodies started

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loafy013
07/15/24 7:39:55 PM
#239:


UndefeatedGOAT posted...
someone with better coverage, RFK, Tulsi, someone thats vocally pro palestine, or a blue republican
So the guy with brain worms who eats dogs, a russian asset, something that doesn't exist on the right, and something that doesn't exist period. great choices there.

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Tired-Insomniac
07/15/24 7:54:46 PM
#240:


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Well Vance is basically Trump but decades younger.

Trump is old as dirt and obese. He could easily die of natural causes in his sleep any day.

If he wins and bites the dust, President Vance will keep the same shit going.


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DrizztLink
07/15/24 8:02:04 PM
#241:


UndefeatedGOAT posted...
you get that 5% immediately if you pick him he could win over 40 states
lol

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ReiRei89
07/15/24 8:02:41 PM
#242:


loafy013 posted...
So the guy with brain worms who eats dogs, a russian asset, something that doesn't exist on the right, and something that doesn't exist period. great choices there.
He's not a US citizen. He's a Canadian who is trolling.

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UndefeatedGOAT
07/15/24 8:08:17 PM
#243:


ReiRei89 posted...
He's not a US citizen. He's a Canadian who is trolling.

no, im stating my opinions, no attempting to provoke
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ClayGuida
07/15/24 8:10:08 PM
#244:


Tired-Insomniac posted...
Well Vance is basically Trump but decades younger.

Trump is old as dirt and obese. He could easily die of natural causes in his sleep any day.

If he wins and bites the dust, President Vance will keep the same shit going.
Vance would be a 1-2 year President because he has the charisma of chain link fence.

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EPR-radar
07/15/24 8:13:37 PM
#245:


Unsuprised_Pika posted...
He bends down and sucks Trump off on command. A yes man to please Trump's ego.

Its more vibes/loyalty based then any strategizing on Trump's part.

Whichever dog barked the most ethusiastically gets to be the lapdog.
We all know Trump's vetting process for potential VP picks -- give them each 10 feet of garden hose and a dozen golf balls, and see who makes the most "progress".

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mybbqrules
07/15/24 8:29:48 PM
#246:


Doe posted...
Is he though?

UnholyMudcrab posted...
Are you sure about that?

Bear in mind that the guy you're responding to believes that Biden's classified documents situation is exactly the same as Trump's.


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Kradek
07/15/24 9:05:39 PM
#247:


ClayGuida posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a0de388a.png

Nikki Haley's son got jokes.

Infinitely funnier than his mom.

ClayGuida posted...
I'm also curious if Trump's internal polling says he may have problems winning Ohio and that's why he chose Vance.

That's supposedly why Hillary selected Kaine, because at the time, while Virginia was blue, his choice all but secured Virginia for them.

Why does it seem that most of these VP picks are absolute nobodies. John Edwards was probably the last VP candidate worth a shit and that was 2004.

Normally, yes, however OH recently overwhelmingly made abortion a constitutional right through voting and Vance is one of the most vehemently anti-choice sacks of shit out there. For Ohio voters, it would logically be him going, "Lol yeah FUCK OH VOTERS, we're all about the Christo-fascism, son"

I think OH will stay red, however it's not going to be because Trump chose Vance.

MaxEffingBemis posted...
Out of curiosity what was the logic behind the Palin pick

"She's a woman. Women love women. This will help us."

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ClayGuida
07/15/24 9:24:30 PM
#249:


Kradek posted...
Infinitely funnier than his mom.
Haley is the Liz Truss of Jeb Bush's.

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