Current Events > Never seen a Predator movie, just watched Prey (SPOILERS)

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It was fine?

I saw the great reviews and overall good impressions so I wanted to check it out.

Visuals were good, the predator kill sequences were awesome but other than that it was pretty barebones.

Protagonist was really doing unbelievable action things compared to those around her. No real compelling characters in general.

6/10 I think, a fun quick watch but not memorable

cant remember if I watched it maybe youre right

Predator is just one of those horror franchises where they had a really good idea for a movie and then they just kept going and they (generally) get weirder and worse as time goes on.

I think its more liked because the past many predator movies have been garbage. Especially the one before this one.

this one just strips a lot away and makes it more simple compared to the last many movies always making new monsters, big stronger predators and stuff never needed

From what I understand, the first Predator movie was marketed as a regular jungle military movie, with audiences believing that Arnold mustve been the reason the movie was named Predator, as he was hunting his targets. The alien hunter was an unexpected twist

The way she beat the Predator was just...too unbelievable.

discodancer77 posted...

From what I understand, the first Predator movie was marketed as a regular jungle military movie, with audiences believing that Arnold mustve been the reason the movie was named Predator, as he was hunting his targets. The alien hunter was an unexpected twist

I missed that and the twist in T2 of Arnold being the good guy. I just knew those facts ever since I could remember.

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I'd agree with this.

It was a great movie compared to the rest of the series. Good acting, solid pace and tension, interesting premise and setting.

The whole series is kind of all over the place though. AVP2 and whatever was before Prey were absolute trash

you're pretty much spot on. The movie was good, but not great, though it didn't really need to be. It just had to be better than is peers. I remember thinking there were some cool directions this could go, especially when they ran into the trappers.

I thought it was brilliant.

My mans really didn't watch op predator first...

Only the first Predator is real.

You have to put it into context. Most people who watched it and loved it were Predator fans, and Predator fans have had a rough time recently. Getting a movie that feels a lot more like the original concept was a pretty big deal, and seeing a "primitive" yautja on the hunt was worth it on its own.

If you come in as a new viewer, it's still a pretty decent action/horror/sci-fi movie, but where it really excels is its easter eggs, tributes, and faithfulness to the original concept.

why is it so unbelievable for the protagonist to do what she does

dont see you complaining about all the bad ass stuff her brother does

The visuals are the worst part. Look at how shit that bear looks

Blue_Popo posted...

Protagonist was really doing unbelievable action things compared to those around her. No real compelling characters in general.

Like observing and using her smarts?

AceMos posted...

dont see you complaining about all the bad ass stuff her brother does

Her brother is more experienced and also dies

Though, that kind of thing is hardly unique to this movie. Pretty much every Predator movie after the first one ends up with its main human character pulling some crazy lucky or otherwise silly/unbelievable stuff to squeak out a win.

The final killing blow in Prey at least feels somewhat believable, and is a good explanation for why the yautja no longer use those homing darts (too easy to turn them against their user).

It just took a lot of luck and plot convenience for her to make it as far as she did. I find it kind of hard to believe that the yautja's deployable arm shield could cut through a man's neck and a whole-ass tree (not a particularly small tree either) but then it struggles to chip through like two inches of a rock because it was targeting the main character's neck.

She's also seen clashing physically with the predator a bunch of times in the final showdown, but we're supposed to believe that a 5'6" 120-something-pound girl is that much more skilled and strong than all the other people who stood absolutely no chance in a straight up fight.

And all the times she got thrown around, or he had her by the throat and just opted not to finish her off.

It was standard, cheesy action movie plot armor, and the other movies have definitely done similar things, but it sticks out a bit more when it's a girl who basically has no real combat experience and more or less got manhandled by ordinary people earlier in the movie.

I think it's a good movie overall, but by far the most unbelievable part of it was the final fight. They had to make her win, but they didn't really go about it in a believable way (other than the actual killing blow, which made perfect sense).

If you go into the movie expecting the final confrontation to be cheesy and unrealistic, then you'll have a good time and it's probably a solid 8/10 for my personal opinion.

Pikachuchupika posted...

The way she beat the Predator was just...too unbelievable.

I'm pretty sure Arnold struggled with his predator way more than she did.

LeoRavus posted...

I'm pretty sure Arnold struggled with his predator way more than she did.

uh no

the damn thing was injured by the time she faced it and even still she barely beats the damn thing

I loved it. Amber Midthunder was awesome in her role. (Her last name is also super badass).

Cant wait for the sequel.

discodancer77 posted...

From what I understand, the first Predator movie was marketed as a regular jungle military movie, with audiences believing that Arnold mustve been the reason the movie was named Predator, as he was hunting his targets. The alien hunter was an unexpected twist

It's also a great perspective on who is the bad guy or the good guy, earlier in that film they slaughter a village full of random people and then laugh about it. Predator only ever kills anyone he deems a reasonable fighter, meanwhile these jackasses are slaughtering anyone due to orders.

Sure predators are not all great beings, but at least they have a moral code that they stick too.

AceMos posted...

uh no

the damn thing was injured by the time she faced it and even still she barely beats the damn thing

It was injured because she shot it in the head. And she was doing some crazy samurai shit on it. Then she somehow rigged up its mask to deal the final blow.

Someone hundreds of years ago figured this technology out.

LeoRavus posted...

It was injured because she shot it in the head. Then she somehow rigged up its mask to deal the final blow. And she was doing some crazy samurai shit on it.

Someone hundreds of years ago figured this technology out.

her brother shot it full of arrows before then

and it had taken injuries before that even

AceMos posted...

her brother shot it full of arrows before then

and it had taken injuries before that even

That didn't slow it down. It still killed her brother after who was supposed to be this badass alpha hunter. But she went above and beyond to finish it off.

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and the thing was very clearly shown to be injured after that

and even then she had to use traps to beat it

i get the impression you have not actually watched the movie

AceMos posted...

topic title is already marked for spoilers

and the thing was very clearly shown to be injured after that

and even then she had to use traps to beat it

i get the impression you have not actually watched the movie

When this movie first dropped everyone was saying how OP they made her, doing next level stuff after the top dogs got slaughtered, even by an injured predator.

My whole point is they made her too OP. The mask thing was just ridiculous. It's not a bad movie, just...something.

LeoRavus posted...

When this movie first dropped everyone was saying how OP they made her, doing next level stuff after the top dogs got slaughtered, even by an injured predator.

nooo only a certain group of ppl where saying that

the same ones who always say that about women doing anything in media

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yes but enough about the original movie

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ive seen it and the predator does not show up near as much as you implied with what you said

infact the predator in prey probably has more screen time

LeoRavus posted...

That didn't slow it down. It still killed her brother after who was supposed to be this badass alpha hunter. But she went above and beyond to finish it off.

He was a badass. Just not as much of a badass as Midthunder, which the movie mentioned plenty of times.

Like half the plot was her not being respected because she was a woman.

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Dude's just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Can anyone explain the predator weapon rigging? I mean, how did she figure out how it operates to the point of accomplishing this?

LeoRavus posted...

Dude's just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Can anyone explain the predator weapon rigging? I mean, how did she figure out how it operates to the point of accomplishing this?

yea now i know you have not seen the movie as this was shown very clearly that she had observed how it works

that it tracks the 3 laser dots

Ulfar posted...

Only the first Predator is real.

The musical is also real

People talk great about the first Predator but I thought Predator 2 was awesome as well? Was it not good? I remember enjoying it.

AceMos posted...

yea now i know you have not seen the movie as this was shown very clearly that she had observed how it works

that it tracks the 3 laser dots

She wasn't even holding the mask. It was off to the side and automatically came on and targeted the predator's head.

Even after watching every predator film I have no idea how any human would know how to program it to do this. Yet alone a human from the 1700s who's never seen any type of electronics.

LeoRavus posted...

She wasn't even holding the mask. It was off to the side and automatically came on and targeted the predator's head.

Even after watching every predator film I have no idea how any human would know how to program it to do this. Yet alone a human from the 1700s who's never seen any type of electronics.

notice it turns on the moment he activates his weapon HE turned it on

The Predator is really the only BAD predator movie and it's no coincidence that it's the one that tries to do the most shit in it too.

dameon_reaper posted...

People talk great about the first Predator but I thought Predator 2 was awesome as well? Was it not good? I remember enjoying it.

I liked it a lot, was just a little harder to believe since the main character was a cop and not some heartened special operations soldier but overall it had some good action in it.

AceMos posted...

notice it turns on the moment he activates his weapon HE turned it on

How did she get the laser beams to line up exactly where his head would end up being without turning it on?

LeoRavus posted...

How did she get the laser beams to line up exactly where his head would end up being without turning it on?

would you ask batman that question

she planned it thats the only explanation your gona get and the only one you need

AceMos posted...

would you ask batman that question

she planned it thats the only explanation your gona get and the only one you need

Batman was tech savvy and superhero flicks are supposed to be outrageous. This was supposed to be a real world situation.

Hexenherz posted...

I liked it a lot, was just a little harder to believe since the main character was a cop and not some heartened special operations soldier but overall it had some good action in it.

I guess but those kinds of movies I tend to push some disbelief in...

I don't watch Home Alone for the realism, after all lol.

LeoRavus posted...

Batman was tech savvy and superhero flicks are supposed to be outrageous. This was supposed to be a real world situation.

aw yes the real world situation of being stalked by a alien hunter

AceMos posted...

aw yes the real world situation of being stalked by a alien hunter

Then we agree.

AceMos posted...

yes but enough about the original movie

The original movie was based entirely on figuring out what the predator was, why it was hunting them, and how to beat it.

Prey shortens that process a lot because the audience already knows those things, but it makes it seem like she's just figuring everything out on a first glance despite never encountering anything even close to that before.