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luigi33 06/28/24 9:00:02 AM #1: |
Assuming it's true that they are thinking of replacing Biden (which honestly seems like manufactured disinformation)
They should've taken a page out of GOP book. Own it, delusional sense of confidence in their candidate, and focus on attacking Trump more Tham defending Biden poor performance. Instead were hearing reports of them 'panicking, talking about replacing Biden, and generally sounding like snot nosed, weak bitch babies. Smh liberals are so fucking trash at politics it pisses me off. Hopefully the trend of undecided voters being more horrified of Trump than disappointed in Biden poor performance ultimately wins the narrative. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 06/28/24 9:03:28 AM #2: |
Ok
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LightHawKnight 06/28/24 9:04:14 AM #3: |
Biggest problem with democrats is how fractured they are.
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GameFAQs_lover 06/28/24 9:05:01 AM #4: |
Obviously some wanted to replace him and some didn't want to (like Gavin). It isn't like the whole party is one mind.
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luigi33 06/28/24 9:07:04 AM #5: |
GameFAQs_lover posted...
Obviously some wanted to replace him and some didn't want to (like Gavin). It isn't like the whole party is one mind.Doesn't matter. Not a good excuse. Should have been more prepared and coordinated over both outcomes from this debate. Instead it looked like they arrogantly did not prepare for other outcomes and had no contingency for the narrative incase Biden had a poor performance. Now they are in a gigantic disarray. It makes the party and leadership look weak and feckless. There are no excuses for this. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thanatos_the_Great 06/28/24 9:08:55 AM #6: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Biggest problem with democrats is how fractured they are. Biggest problem with Democrats is that their candidate is a mentally and physically unfit old man who is actively arming and funding a genocide. (Before the bores start boring - yes, Trump is even worse in every way, and yes, replacing Biden at this point would probably do even more harm than keeping him.) --- Re-open board 261. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 06/28/24 9:10:45 AM #7: |
Its just the usual suspects stirring up trouble.
No one sane would look at Trumps performance yesterday and think hed be a better president than Biden with a cold. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Goldice 06/28/24 9:11:04 AM #8: |
Thanatos_the_Great posted...
replacing Biden at this point would probably do even more harm than keeping him.) Honestly not sure about that. You can throw messaging, likeability and all that stuff out the window. Biden just looks and sounds too old to be a leader. That will be the deciding factor for many voters. This shit isn't won off of transcripts alone. Optics matter. Yesterday was so bad I do think they should just run kamala. Still probably lose, but at least it won't be by default --- New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameFAQs_lover 06/28/24 9:11:16 AM #9: |
luigi33 posted...
Doesn't matter. Not a good excuse.People having opinions and not being a hive mind is "not a good excuse"? It isn't an excuse lol. It is how people are. Some will react more negatively or radically than others. --- ^^Hey! Eyes up here pal^^ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 06/28/24 9:13:03 AM #10: |
Goldice posted...
Honestly not sure about that. You can throw messaging, likeability and all that stuff out the window. Biden just looks and sounds too old to be a leader. That will be the deciding factor for many voters.Kamala running is losing by default --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yazarogi 06/28/24 9:13:05 AM #11: |
GameFAQs_lover posted...
People having opinions and not being a hive mind is "not a good excuse"? It isn't an excuse lol. It is how people are. Some will react more negatively or radically than others. when it comes to republicans who always fall in line, yes. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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orangefire25 06/28/24 9:15:28 AM #12: |
How bad was it? Lol this country fucking sucks
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Intro2Logic 06/28/24 9:16:50 AM #13: |
What are party officials supposed to do when this is the NYT coverage?
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Bat178 06/28/24 9:20:27 AM #14: |
Intro2Logic posted...
What are party officials supposed to do when this is the NYT coverage?NYT had a bone to pick with Biden even before the debate. --- "2001 called, it wants it's message board signature back....." - aarrgus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 06/28/24 9:20:59 AM #15: |
Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Biggest problem with Democrats is that their candidate is a mentally and physically unfit old man who is actively arming and funding a genocide. Anyone who could win presidency would be supporting Israel. That is how the US government works. Biden may be old, but at least his cabinet is filled with competent people, that matters. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 06/28/24 9:37:12 AM #16: |
GameFAQs_lover posted...
People having opinions and not being a hive mind is "not a good excuse"? It isn't an excuse lol. It is how people are. Some will react more negatively or radically than others.No. No its not. Remember, I'm not talking about regular people, I'm talking about OFFICIALS of the party. They CAN and SHOULD be more coordinated. Because not being so makes you look weaker and less likely to win. I'm tired of giving excuses to them. No, stop crying and panicking like pestering snot nosed children. Play POLITICS. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 06/28/24 9:40:11 AM #17: |
Bat178 posted...
NYT had a bone to pick with Biden even before the debate. Where's the posts with the headlines; Trump didn't say a single truth last night. What's next for Republicans? Convicted Felon gets into pissing contest about Golf during first of only two presidential debates. Man who helped overturn Roe V Wade proudly boasts about an economy he helped ruin. No? Just me? --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mad_Cow46 06/28/24 9:50:57 AM #18: |
"Dems freak out over Bidens debate performance: Biden is toast"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-toast-calling-now-biden-021518381.html of course he was toast the day he ran for president but at least there's progress. --- if your electric car runs out of juice do you walk to the charging station for a jerry can of electricity? 2546 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FolkenRawr 06/28/24 9:56:03 AM #19: |
luigi33 posted...
Assuming it's true that they are thinking of replacing Biden (which honestly seems like manufactured disinformation) And everyone knows the best way to combat disinformation is to... Repeat ad infinitum the disinformation and to qualify it with other manufactured nonsense Super good faith topic. --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameFAQs_lover 06/28/24 9:57:55 AM #20: |
Intro2Logic posted...
What are party officials supposed to do when this is the NYT coverage?The Thomas Friedman one surprises me considering how much he hates trump and supports Biden. --- ^^Hey! Eyes up here pal^^ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 06/28/24 10:17:37 AM #21: |
FolkenRawr posted...
And everyone knows the best way to combat disinformation is to... Repeat ad infinitum the disinformation and to qualify it with other manufactured nonsenseYou call good political strategy disinformation now? With people who think the way you do welcome to America Fashland 2025. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hejiru 06/28/24 10:19:50 AM #22: |
Irony posted...
Kamala running is losing by default Why? I feel like she might have had a better chance at beating him. It would eliminate the hes old and senile! arguments. And she would probably energize more left-leaning and moderate people to come out and vote, whereas with Just Another Generic Old White Guy, they might stay home. Yeah being black and a woman might lower her chances, but the racist and sexist people are already voting for Trump anyway. --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 06/28/24 10:21:44 AM #23: |
I haven't seen much response of replacing Biden. More that it was a bad debate. Like Reagan and Obama had. Both won reelection.
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Wrath_Of_Spiral 06/28/24 10:24:52 AM #24: |
ClayGuida posted... I haven't seen much response of replacing Biden. More that it was a bad debate. Like Reagan and Obama had. Both won reelection. Obama had a bad debate? Against Mitt Romney? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hejiru 06/28/24 10:24:59 AM #25: |
Cemith posted...
Where's the posts with the headlines; Democrats are held to a much higher standard than Republicans. --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 06/28/24 10:31:40 AM #26: |
https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1806498597715791981
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joaquintall 06/28/24 10:31:53 AM #27: |
Cemith posted... Where's the posts with the headlines; I also liked the moment where he said "Russia Russia Russia" was a hoax, and then he also talked to Putin about the Afghanistan pull out (you'll have to excuse me on the details, I only heard this from a highlights package). At least his lies are consistent, even when they contradict one another. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen 06/28/24 10:34:14 AM #28: |
Goldice posted...
Honestly not sure about that. You can throw messaging, likeability and all that stuff out the window. Biden just looks and sounds too old to be a leader. That will be the deciding factor for many voters. Remember when you doomsdayed 2020 and 2022 lmao --- In Brady We Trust. I've finally realized the secret to making a successful Mearn topic. Make it about CZG - Mearn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mistymermaid 06/28/24 10:38:56 AM #29: |
Intro2Logic posted...
What are party officials supposed to do when this is the NYT coverage? With "journalism" like this, who needs enemies? --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 06/28/24 10:40:05 AM #30: |
Hejiru posted...
Why? Lol Kamala wouldn't energize left-wing voters at all. Nobody cares about her and her political stances are typical corpo/pro-establishment Democrat bullshit. She's like a less offensively awful Hillary. Biden at least has his previous tenure as VP to fall back on, and he did do a decent enough job of rebounding the U.S. economy (even if it'll never be like what it was pre-COVID) --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 06/28/24 11:01:36 AM #31: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Anyone who could win presidency would be supporting Israel. That is how the US government works.No, they really don't have to, and we can and should hold them accountable for doing so. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 06/28/24 11:04:00 AM #32: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
No, they really don't have to, and we can and should hold them accountable for doing so. So you dont know how the US government works. They dont have to, but they will, as that is how the US foreign policy works. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 06/28/24 11:08:26 AM #34: |
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They are better at being bad at politics then? --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoyoteTheGreat 06/28/24 11:20:59 AM #35: |
luigi33 posted...
Assuming it's true that they are thinking of replacing Biden (which honestly seems like manufactured disinformation) I mean, the right winged news can just report "Democratic officials are saying" without any proof of who the fuck is even saying it. They probably just asked James Carville or some other asshole knowing they'd say something for attention, if they even asked anyone at all and didn't just make it up wholesale. Democrats are very weak, but its because they refuse to go after America's broken institutions even though they are 100% against them. --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nok_Su_Kow 06/28/24 11:22:40 AM #36: |
Newsom's response was the best. Party stability is more important than the ability to go toe to toe with a malignant lying tumor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 06/28/24 11:24:41 AM #37: |
TCs really shown their whole ass today and yesterday, they're rooting for accelerationism to punish the Democrats for running an incumbent
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luigi33 06/28/24 11:25:59 AM #38: |
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
TCs really shown their whole ass today and yesterday, they're rooting for accelerationism to punish the Democrats for running an incumbentNice. Lies and slander. Shitting on own team for making stupid mistakes is what I'm doing. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 06/28/24 11:29:01 AM #39: |
luigi33 posted...
Nice. Lies and slander. Shitting on own team for making stupid mistakes is what I'm doing.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3541d244.jpg --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 06/28/24 11:30:34 AM #40: |
Anonymous Dem response, you mean.
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mistymermaid 06/28/24 11:45:54 AM #41: |
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3541d244.jpg Tisk, tisk, TC. Did I ever tell you about the long nosed toy maker and his journey inside the whale? --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 06/28/24 11:59:26 AM #42: |
mistymermaid posted...
Tisk, tisk, TC. Did I ever tell you about the long nosed toy maker and his journey inside the whale?You do realize if Trump gets in its over right? Like there is no coming back from that. They will control everything and then destroy democracy. There is no masses resisting and winning elections anymore. America will be a completely different place I'm a Trump 2025 presidency. Yes. To that America I would see it burn. But that has not happened yet so I'll get upset when I see idiotic democratic decisions that push is further towards that dark.future. Pretending like shit decisions haven't been made is only to our folly and detriment. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Persona 06/28/24 12:19:05 PM #43: |
dems aren't liberals
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NatsuSama 06/28/24 12:23:33 PM #44: |
Biggest problem with Dem voters are the forever doom and gloom types who desperately find a reason not to vote, and desperately find a reason to complain.
Then act confused why Dems didn't pull off an impossible magic trick do to doom and gloomers convincing enough people to stay home. As if laws are passed not by having the numbers in Congress, but on some delusion that simply wanting it gets laws passed. It's like a special badge of honor for specific types to keep morale down as much as possible. The type that no matter what nothing is ever good enough, and they are allergic to acknowledging any steps in the right direction as an accomplishment. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamer167 06/28/24 12:24:28 PM #45: |
luigi33 posted... You do realize if Trump gets in its over right? Like there is no coming back from that. They will control everything and then destroy democracy. There is no masses resisting and winning elections anymore. America will be a completely different place I'm a Trump 2025 presidency. Yes. To that America I would see it burn. But that has not happened yet so I'll get upset when I see idiotic democratic decisions that push is further towards that dark.future. Pretending like shit decisions haven't been made is only to our folly and detriment. bruh youre like 40, grow up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 06/28/24 12:31:46 PM #46: |
luigi33 posted...
You do realize if Trump gets in its over right? Like there is no coming back from that. They will control everything and then destroy democracy. There is no masses resisting and winning elections anymore. America will be a completely different place I'm a Trump 2025 presidency. Yes. To that America I would see it burn. But that has not happened yet so I'll get upset when I see idiotic democratic decisions that push is further towards that dark.future. Pretending like shit decisions haven't been made is only to our folly and detriment.You sound like Charlie from It's Always Sunny... --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 06/28/24 2:06:42 PM #47: |
gamer167 posted...
bruh youre like 40, grow up36 but shit move, ageist --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 06/28/24 3:53:40 PM #48: |
Euripides posted...
https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1806498597715791981 The first part is what really matters, but so many people are caught up in seeing politics as entertainment ('for the lulz, hurr durr') that the second part is relevant, unfortunately. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaikyoStyle 06/28/24 3:56:40 PM #49: |
We should replace e pluribus unum with feels over reals.
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Diceheist 06/28/24 3:57:37 PM #50: |
luigi33 posted...
They should've taken a page out of GOP book. Own it, delusional sense of confidence in their candidate, and focus on attacking Trump more Tham defending Biden poor performance. That does not work for Dems since their centrist policy platforms do not court the type of voters who respond to it. --- Day I lost CE access: TBA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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