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HighSeraph 06/08/24 11:07:11 AM #151: |
Souls-like is not a genre, just because you made an action rpg difficult doesn't make it a genre or subgenre
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Justin2Krelian 06/08/24 11:09:36 AM #152: |
-Morrowind is one of the better ES games, but it has one of the weakest soundtracks in the series. I'd put Oblivion's, Skyrim's, and even Daggerfall's over it, and it's bizarre to me when people say it's by far the best. Not saying it's not a good OST, though.
-FF Mystic Quest is a mediocre game that's decent for what it is, not a decent game that's good for what it is. It too has an overrated soundtrack. -EarthBound is a fun game with a great atmosphere, but it's not some deep or great story about the power of friendship --- -J2K Currently Streaming: Avatar TLA, Homeland, Star Trek: Discovery, Fallout, X-Men 97 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 06/08/24 11:09:44 AM #153: |
HighSeraph posted...
Souls-like is not a genre, just because you made an action rpg difficult doesn't make it a genre or subgenreThat said, I'm glad they did it so I know which games to ignore. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaiCSC 06/08/24 11:14:45 AM #154: |
Super Mario 64 is not that good and has aged badly.
Nintendo showed that you can make a 3D platformers workable but it still feels slow, clunky and had far less variety compared to its 2D predecessors. Super Mario Galaxy is a masterpiece and that's where they nailed it. Oh and the Tomb Raider Survivor Trilogy is hugely overrated and is just not Tomb Raider. Functional and plays fine but is just generic and lacks personality. The Legend trilogy is Superior. --- I Shot the Sheriff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 06/08/24 11:16:01 AM #155: |
Zelda 2 is terrible and the weird attempt at revisionist history regarding it is annoying.
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RetuenOfDevsman 06/08/24 11:18:31 AM #156: |
Justin2Krelian posted...
-EarthBound is a fun game with a great atmosphere, but it's not some deep or great story about the power of friendshipI might at this point argue that a story "about friendship" is kind of by default not great or deep. Like imagine some actually complex, original story that still manages to end with the takeaway "friends r gud." Gee thanks, never thought of that before. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zithers 06/08/24 11:19:19 AM #157: |
crafting and skill trees are two of the worst gaming mechanics ever and really do not need to be in nearly every AAA release. i can understand crafting if you are playing a game that requires resource management of some kind (the last of us or any zombie thing really) or skill trees for RPGs (duh). but why is there a skill tree in spider-man. there should just be points in the game where you unlock a move/gadget instead of having to grind. annoying.
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Baron_Ox 06/08/24 11:26:48 AM #158: |
South Park: Stick of Truth and South Park: The Fractured but Whole are easily better than any major JRPG to be released in the last 10-15 years.
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kirbymuncher 06/08/24 12:29:15 PM #160: |
oh I just was reminded of another one by a discussion somewhere else:
the chao garden in sonic adventure 2 is the worst part of the game and is basically comparable to free flash games that you play for a few hours one day and then forget about forever HighSeraph posted... Souls-like is not a genre, just because you made an action rpg difficult doesn't make it a genre or subgenreI think there's more to them than just being difficult, they share a lot of stuff. In general I wish people were more willing to coin terms for new subgenres since it's a pretty useful way to categorize and summarize stuff about similar classes of gams --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 06/08/24 12:42:35 PM #161: |
kirbymuncher posted...
I think there's more to them than just being difficult, they share a lot of stuff.Yeah, it's the world design as much as difficulty. Interconnected world, specific save/healing points, the Souls/Whatever currency system... --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 06/08/24 12:44:52 PM #162: |
Mad-Dogg posted...
Even original persona 1 soundtrack and persona 2?Nah, those are alright classic MegaTen music is my jam tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLtXOU2obC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_peXk2XzcM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U44HTn8SYn4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Di5RLEAuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i883HCkpbl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHyf8fHloow --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 06/08/24 12:46:25 PM #163: |
FL81 posted...
Persona has the worst music of any JRPG seriesHow do you enjoy megaten music and still arrive at this opinion lmao --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 06/08/24 12:51:03 PM #164: |
Another I have:
Mafia 3 was really fun. Great writing and characters. Lincoln Clay is a cool protagonist and the side characters are interesting and fun, especially John Donovan and a certain returning character. You could even almost sympathize with the villain. The world and 60s atmosphere are great too. The main story is a fun little subversion where you fight against the Mafia instead of working for it. I didn't mind the "repetitive" parts because taking over territory was fun and so is the stealth and shooting. It feels satisfying being a badass Vietnam vet killing bad guys stealthily or guns blazing. It's far from perfect, especially when it first came out, but it's definitely worth a play especially if you're interested in mob stuff or the 60s. Plus you get to kill some KKK members. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 06/08/24 12:52:43 PM #165: |
dark souls 2 doesnt have a single good boss
looking glass knight and fume knight come closest --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeCh0nk 06/08/24 12:57:18 PM #166: |
Witcher 2 was a better game than 3. The boss fights felt like a proper fight where you had to prepare like a witcher would, and drink your potions before you left town.
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Baha05 06/08/24 1:12:32 PM #167: |
Baldurs Gate 3 is a sales anomaly that doesnt help anyones point in making the claim of devs just need to make good games!
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Evening_Dragon 06/08/24 1:17:15 PM #168: |
Baha05 posted...
Baldurs Gate 3 is a sales anomaly that doesnt help anyones point in making the claim of devs just need to make good games! Sales anomaly? --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OzNarcissus 06/08/24 1:23:08 PM #169: |
Soulsborne games are generally mid, at best.
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Baha05 06/08/24 1:26:32 PM #170: |
Evening_Dragon posted...
Sales anomaly?Yes right now a point in the FFVIIR boards is that BF3 sold well because its a good game (which I cant deny its a good game) but because of the type of genre in is its sales are more hard to pin down if people legit bought it be a its a good game or simply out of word of mouth. And in terms of discussion using it as an example of what to do is kind of condescending anyhow because plenty of good games are out there and dont even hit those numbers. Same goes for Palworld but Im not going to argue that Palworld is good so much as it has a fun loop but is marred by being compared to Pokmon and having janky art assets that dont mix. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R_Jackal 06/08/24 1:28:14 PM #171: |
Baha05 posted... Yes right now a point in the FFVIIR boards is that BF3 sold well because its a good game (which I cant deny its a good game) but because of the type of genre in is its sales are more hard to pin down if people legit bought it be a its a good game or simply out of word of mouth. And in terms of discussion using it as an example of what to do is kind of condescending anyhow because plenty of good games are out there and dont even hit those numbers.Average play time on BG3 is documented at 100hrs. Average. For comparison average on Elden Ring is 45, and 75 for Skyrim. I would say public sentiment lines up . I don't like BG3, mind. As for my hot take, Bloodborne is the worst Soulslike. All the builds are extremely samey. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MangaBroski 06/08/24 1:28:15 PM #172: |
Ruby and Sapphire were the worst main-line Pokemon games until Sword and Shield came out. Black/White forcing the player to use new Pokemon was a good thing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 06/08/24 1:29:43 PM #173: |
MangaBroski posted...
Ruby and Sapphire were the worst main-line Pokemon games until Sword and Shield came out.Total agreement on B/W forcing you to use new pokmon. I think X and Y are definitely contenders for worse pre-Sword/Shield game tho --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 06/08/24 1:30:11 PM #174: |
R_Jackal posted...
Average play time on BG3 is documented at 100hrs. Average.Playtime is almost irrelevant in comparison to percentage beaten though. More so if people are going with multiple playthroughs to do different things. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeathVelvien 06/08/24 1:32:31 PM #175: |
Gacha is a perfectly fine monetization model, although any gacha game should be rated appropriately for gambling
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Baha05 06/08/24 1:35:11 PM #176: |
DeathVelvien posted...
Gacha is a perfectly fine monetization model, although any gacha game should be rated appropriately for gamblingI partially agree with this though my hot take is people would have less of an annoyance with Gachas if there was more means to either trade with other players or gain key resources from duplicates. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SugarFlakes 06/08/24 2:00:12 PM #177: |
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FurryPhilosifer 06/08/24 2:23:17 PM #179: |
Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed is not very good at all. The cars are super slippery. The boats are physics disasters. And the flying is just hold accelerate and point.
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RetuenOfDevsman 06/08/24 3:05:39 PM #180: |
FurryPhilosifer posted...
Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed is not very good at all. The cars are super slippery. The boats are physics disasters. And the flying is just hold accelerate and point.Now that's just crazy talk. The game was incred. If you're looking for super slippery, check out F-Zero. Some of the games did it differently. Probably the slipperiest was Max Velocity, but I bet you all the idea on YouTube have players who know how to use boost turns, so you wouldn't really understand without actually playing yourself. There are seriously turns where, when I was a noob, I found it much faster to just bounce off the wall instead of trying to actually make the turn. Gracious, F-Zero is the best. Why didn't enough of you ijits buy copies to justify more of them? --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HA4e 06/08/24 3:17:38 PM #181: |
Games like Skyrim and Fallout NV shouldn't rank high in top gaming lists if people are only thinking modded versions of them and not the base game.
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RetuenOfDevsman 06/08/24 3:18:25 PM #182: |
HA4e posted...
Games like Skyrim and Fallout NV shouldn't rank high in top gaming lists if people are only thinking modded versions of them and not the base game.This is just a fact. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 06/08/24 3:23:46 PM #183: |
FurryPhilosifer posted...
Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed is not very good at all. The cars are super slippery. The boats are physics disasters. And the flying is just hold accelerate and point.I enjoyed it due to the track variety it offered being able to transform from wheel, boat to wings and in no particular order based on the track. Ive never seen that before in a racer and it blew my mind at the time. Only major flaw to me was that online was borderline unplayable. Speaking of the sonic racers, Riders zero gravity was a terrible sequel that killed the originals gameplay to satisfy the terribads who never beat Jet. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin2Krelian 06/08/24 3:25:17 PM #184: |
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Literally the one song I would point to as standing out, so yes it does. It's not terrible, there's a few decent listening tracks, but it's still behind any other FF. Maybe it's less further behind the others when it comes to music. --- -J2K Currently Streaming: Avatar TLA, Homeland, Star Trek: Discovery, Fallout, X-Men 97 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 06/08/24 3:41:31 PM #185: |
Fallout isn't that great. I'd give fallout 4 a 6.5 or 7 out of 10 tops.
Skyrim has never been fun without mods. Yakuza: like a dragon gets old quick because of the turn based combat. Tears of the Kingdom wasn't very good. It was just a slightly bigger Botw which had already gotten boring. Nudity, sex, and a lot harder violence/gore should be allowed in video games. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 06/08/24 3:45:38 PM #186: |
nudity/sex/gore are allowed in video games
why do ppl keep saying its an unpopular opinion when its already like...fact of life --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 06/08/24 3:50:14 PM #187: |
HA4e posted...
Games like Skyrim and Fallout NV shouldn't rank high in top gaming lists if people are only thinking modded versions of them and not the base game.Understandable, but I've only played vanilla Skyrim, and still think it's the best one in the series. But NV absolutely isn't. I've tried twice, and it was too janky then, and it's even worse now. I'd rather play Starfield again. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 06/08/24 3:52:17 PM #188: |
Dungeater posted...
nudity/sex/gore are allowed in video games Like, fully allowed. Like if a game is rated M, there should be as much nudity, sex, and violence as the devs want. Wether that is one small scene, or an entire game filled with it. There shouldn't be a limit that'll make it an ao game. Ao games shouldn't exist in their current format. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 06/08/24 4:11:05 PM #189: |
HighSeraph posted...
Souls-like is not a genre, just because you made an action rpg difficult doesn't make it a genre or subgenreDisagree. There's more to a "Souls-like" than simply being hard. It's a combination of things that Dark Souls popularized.
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toadfan64 06/08/24 5:13:00 PM #191: |
Uh I guess something like I find PS1/N64 kinda graphics more appealing than the photo realistic stuff we see nowadays.
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Sufferedphoenix 06/08/24 10:42:07 PM #192: |
HA4e posted...
Games like Skyrim and Fallout NV shouldn't rank high in top gaming lists if people are only thinking modded versions of them and not the base game. I only play base versions really. Only one I've modded was fallout 4 and it was ps4 so nothing crazy. Just added some homes and put in a thing where I can be overleveled and have all the perks from the start. Mind you that was for subsequent playthroughs. Strictly base first time around --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Valigarmanda_ 06/08/24 11:10:16 PM #193: |
Baron_Ox posted...
South Park: Stick of Truth and South Park: The Fractured but Whole are easily better than any major JRPG to be released in the last 10-15 years. I have an offshoot opinion in the other direction - turn based RPGs with action prompts midbattle go against the entire premise, for me. It was a cute gimmick in Super Mario RPG but if I wanted more action in my RPG I would play an ARPG. Stick of Truth and Sea of Stars both lost me in this way --- aka TritochZERO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BillGates 06/08/24 11:11:06 PM #194: |
I like Call of Duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 06/08/24 11:23:54 PM #195: |
NoxObscuras posted...
Disagree. There's more to a "Souls-like" than simply being hard. It's a combination of things that Dark Souls popularized. Oh snap Diablo 2 is a soulslike --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 06/09/24 1:32:23 AM #196: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Oh snap Diablo 2 is a soulslikeA major part of defining the soulslike genre is dancing around the fact that everything is basically just older MMOs (or adjacent), or Monster Hunter. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FurryPhilosifer 06/09/24 10:38:45 AM #197: |
HA4e posted...
Games like Skyrim and Fallout NV shouldn't rank high in top gaming lists if people are only thinking modded versions of them and not the base game.The internet likes to ignore that these games reviewed well and sold absolute gangbusters on consoles without modding. --- Ghosts are cool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 06/09/24 1:48:50 PM #198: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Oh snap Diablo 2 is a soulslikeNot quite. It does share a few aspects, but not enough to make it a souls like. Enemies aren't that hard on normal difficulty, you have tons of ways to heal, and you can animation cancel. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 06/09/24 2:09:43 PM #200: |
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Kind of. Like in action JRPG's, I still need to learn boss patterns, so that I can dodge attacks. But it's not nearly as punishing, because I can dodge cancel out of my attacks, and I can heal a lot more damage. So I can afford to make a lot more mistakes. Like in Star Ocean games, it's like yeah this boss is tough, but I have 20+ potions and a healer in my party So with Dark Souls, which cranks the punishment up to 11, I find it more frustrating than fun. That was my issue with Armored Core 6. It wasn't exactly a Souls like, but it was far more punishing than any other game in the series --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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