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andel 06/05/24 4:29:08 PM #1:	i just finished yakuza kiwami and it was really solid, but not nearly as good as zero and much shorter. zero was incredible imo starting 2 now, how does it stack up to those other two? --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:980712371] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>i just finished yakuza kiwami and it was really solid, but not nearly as good as zero and much shorter. zero was incredible imo starting 2 now, how does it stack up to those other two? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 06/05/24 4:31:07 PM #2:	Kiwami 2 uses the engine from Yakuza 6, so it looks better and fights feel more dynamic, iirc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zDur8XEVst0 --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. https://imgur.com/4CDGncR <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:980712394] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>Kiwami 2 uses the engine from Yakuza 6, so it looks better and fights feel more dynamic, iirc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zDur8XEVst0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/05/24 4:35:59 PM #3:	Baron_Ox posted... Kiwami 2 uses the engine from Yakuza 6, so it looks better and fights feel more dynamic, iirc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zDur8XEVst0 i am on the opening cutscenes now. is the game bigger/longer than 1? --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:980712461] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>Kiwami 2 uses the engine from Yakuza 6, so it looks better and fights feel more dynamic, iirc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zDur8XEVst0</quote>i am on the opening cutscenes now. is the game bigger/longer than 1? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 06/05/24 4:37:50 PM #4:	I've only played the original versions of Yakuza and Yakuza 2 (I played Y0, as well), but from what I remember, Y2 was longer so I wouldn't be surprised if Kiwami 2 was the same. I can't remember the lengths in relation to Yakuza 0, though. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. https://imgur.com/4CDGncR <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:980712478] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>I've only played the original versions of Yakuza and Yakuza 2 (I played Y0, as well), but from what I remember, Y2 was longer so I wouldn't be surprised if Kiwami 2 was the same. I can't remember the lengths in relation to Yakuza 0, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/24 4:39:15 PM #5:	andel posted... i am on the opening cutscenes now. is the game bigger/longer than 1? Yes-ish. They are pretty close overall, but I'd say that 2 is relevantly longer than 1. Much shorter than 0, though. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:980712493] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite><quote>i am on the opening cutscenes now. is the game bigger/longer than 1?</quote>Yes-ish. They are pretty close overall, but I'd say that 2 is relevantly longer than 1.Much shorter than 0, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 06/05/24 4:39:22 PM #6:	Kiwami 2 is easily the worst of the Yakuza games I've played (0, 3, and both Kiwamis). The combat is the shallowest in the series (that I've played), and the game actively looks worse than its predecessors and takes WAY more resources so that some lights can look slightly better. I have never played a more unstable game on PC, either. K2 crashed on me at least 200 times, and at least half of those were just from opening the game. It's not like the story is any good, either. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:980712494] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>Kiwami 2 is easily the worst of the Yakuza games I've played (0, 3, and both Kiwamis). The combat is the shallowest in the series (that I've played), and the game actively looks worse than its predecessors and takes WAY more resources so that some lights can look slightly better. I have never played a more unstable game on PC, either. K2 crashed on me at least 200 times, and at least half of those were just from opening the game. It's not like the story is any good, either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ironman2009 06/05/24 4:46:08 PM #8:	I loved K2. --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:980712576] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>I loved K2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 06/05/24 5:01:01 PM #9:	Garioshi posted... Kiwami 2 is easily the worst of the Yakuza games I've played (0, 3, and both Kiwamis). The combat is the shallowest in the series (that I've played), and the game actively looks worse than its predecessors and takes WAY more resources so that some lights can look slightly better. I have never played a more unstable game on PC, either. K2 crashed on me at least 200 times, and at least half of those were just from opening the game. It's not like the story is any good, either. Kiwami 2 absolutely does not look worse than its predecessors lmao where did that come from. Kiwami is a solid entry in the series, definitely not the worst. Kiwami 1 is my least favorite game in the series other than original 1 and 2. Its got worse combat than 3 and many of its systems are just haphazardly ripped from 0 and pasted onto the framework of 1. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:980712735] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite><quote>Kiwami 2 is easily the worst of the Yakuza games I've played (0, 3, and both Kiwamis). The combat is the shallowest in the series (that I've played), and the game actively looks worse than its predecessors and takes WAY more resources so that some lights can look slightly better. I have never played a more unstable game on PC, either. K2 crashed on me at least 200 times, and at least half of those were just from opening the game. It's not like the story is any good, either.</quote>Kiwami 2 absolutely does not look worse than its predecessors lmao where did that come from. Kiwami is a solid entry in the series, definitely not the worst. Kiwami 1 is my least favorite game in the series other than original 1 and 2. Its got worse combat than 3 and many of its systems are just haphazardly ripped from 0 and pasted onto the framework of 1. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 06/05/24 5:02:08 PM #10:	I enjoyed Kiwami 2 way more than 1, but less than 0. Its a great game and I love the dragon engine, so i think youll have a good time --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:980712745] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>I enjoyed Kiwami 2 way more than 1, but less than 0. Its a great game and I love the dragon engine, so i think youll have a good time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetuenOfDevsman 06/05/24 5:16:38 PM #11:	They improved the hell out of the overworld (you can go in buildings without a loading screen!), it brings back Sotenbori and the Cabaret Club stuff, and it has an ok-ish tactics minigame with its own story. But the basic gameplay is a step backward, they nerfed some of the minigames, the ending is super dumb and Majima is not nearly as entertaining. If you could play one hour of each, you'd probably have the best with with K2, but 0 and K1 are both better for the long haul. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. <cite>RetuenOfDevsman posted [p:980712895] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>They improved the hell out of the overworld (you can go in buildings without a loading screen!), it brings back Sotenbori and the Cabaret Club stuff, and it has an ok-ish tactics minigame with its own story.But the basic gameplay is a step backward, they nerfed some of the minigames, the ending is super dumb and Majima is not nearly as entertaining.If you could play one hour of each, you'd probably have the best with with K2, but 0 and K1 are both better for the long haul. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 06/05/24 5:21:24 PM #12:	It has this song: Heading for Kamuro Hills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_J-V6nzaRs --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:980712949] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>It has this song:Heading for Kamuro Hillshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_J-V6nzaRs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 06/05/24 5:21:36 PM #13:	@cyricz <cite>MrResetti posted [p:980712950] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>@cyricz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 06/05/24 5:23:08 PM #14:	Honestly, I see tons of people praise Kiwami 2 over Kiwami 1, but the story really didn't do it for me, compared to the others and I didn't like the combat as much. So for me it was 0 > K1 > K2 --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:980712973] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I see tons of people praise Kiwami 2 over Kiwami 1, but the story really didn't do it for me, compared to the others and I didn't like the combat as much. So for me it was 0 > K1 > K2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 06/05/24 7:44:03 PM #15:	NoxObscuras posted... Honestly, I see tons of people praise Kiwami 2 over Kiwami 1, but the story really didn't do it for me, compared to the others and I didn't like the combat as much. So for me it was 0 > K1 > K2 I can understand liking the story less, but i really think Kiwami 1s combat doesnt get enough hate. Going from 0 to Kiwami 1 feels so jarring even though they just copy pasted the 0 fighting styles. Every style just feels worse and less fluid to use, and beast got nerfed into the ground. Also lterally every heavy attack puts you on the floor which is probably my biggest criticism of the combat. The Shimano 1st fight in Kiwami 1 is also easily one of the worst fights in the series --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:980714797] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Honestly, I see tons of people praise Kiwami 2 over Kiwami 1, but the story really didn't do it for me, compared to the others and I didn't like the combat as much. So for me it was 0 > K1 > K2</quote>I can understand liking the story less, but i really think Kiwami 1s combat doesnt get enough hate. Going from 0 to Kiwami 1 feels so jarring even though they just copy pasted the 0 fighting styles. Every style just feels worse and less fluid to use, and beast got nerfed into the ground. Also lterally every heavy attack puts you on the floor which is probably my biggest criticism of the combat. The Shimano 1st fight in Kiwami 1 is also easily one of the worst fights in the series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 06/05/24 7:46:42 PM #16:	I like 2 more than 1, almost as much as 0 --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:980714828] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>I like 2 more than 1, almost as much as 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 06/05/24 7:49:47 PM #17:	K2 is the second Dragon Engine game and they're still figuring some stuff out, but it looks significantly better than 0/K1 for sure. In terms of combat it's better than K1 and worse than 0. Storywise it's fine. It's a Yakuza game, it's exactly what you expect from them in terms of story, just with a particularly beloved standout villain. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:980714857] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>K2 is the second Dragon Engine game and they're still figuring some stuff out, but it looks significantly better than 0/K1 for sure. In terms of combat it's better than K1 and worse than 0.Storywise it's fine. It's a Yakuza game, it's exactly what you expect from them in terms of story, just with a particularly beloved standout villain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 06/05/24 9:25:28 PM #18:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... I can understand liking the story less, but i really think Kiwami 1s combat doesnt get enough hate. Going from 0 to Kiwami 1 feels so jarring even though they just copy pasted the 0 fighting styles. Every style just feels worse and less fluid to use, and beast got nerfed into the ground. Also lterally every heavy attack puts you on the floor which is probably my biggest criticism of the combat. The Shimano 1st fight in Kiwami 1 is also easily one of the worst fights in the series For me, I started with Kiwami then went straight to Kiwami 2 and instantly hated the lack of style switching. Didn't hate Kiwami's styles because I hadn't played 0 yet. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:980716145] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>I can understand liking the story less, but i really think Kiwami 1s combat doesnt get enough hate. Going from 0 to Kiwami 1 feels so jarring even though they just copy pasted the 0 fighting styles. Every style just feels worse and less fluid to use, and beast got nerfed into the ground. Also lterally every heavy attack puts you on the floor which is probably my biggest criticism of the combat. The Shimano 1st fight in Kiwami 1 is also easily one of the worst fights in the series</quote>For me, I started with Kiwami then went straight to Kiwami 2 and instantly hated the lack of style switching. Didn't hate Kiwami's styles because I hadn't played 0 yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetuenOfDevsman 06/05/24 10:08:37 PM #19:	My only real qualm with K1 combat was that the enemies block CONSTANTLY. Like, at times you're reduced to doing flybys just to bait them into attacking JUST so that they for once in their lives will NOT block. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. <cite>RetuenOfDevsman posted [p:980716721] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>My only real qualm with K1 combat was that the enemies block CONSTANTLY.Like, at times you're reduced to doing flybys just to bait them into attacking JUST so that they for once in their lives will NOT block. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 06/05/24 10:17:08 PM #20:	RetuenOfDevsman posted... My only real qualm with K1 combat was that the enemies block CONSTANTLY. Like, at times you're reduced to doing flybys just to bait them into attacking JUST so that they for once in their lives will NOT block. The only game that stood out with enemies blocking too much was 3. Holy shit that got annoying lol. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:980716817] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>RetuenOfDevsman posted... </cite><quote>My only real qualm with K1 combat was that the enemies block CONSTANTLY.Like, at times you're reduced to doing flybys just to bait them into attacking JUST so that they for once in their lives will NOT block.</quote>The only game that stood out with enemies blocking too much was 3. Holy shit that got annoying lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 06/05/24 10:18:48 PM #21:	Much better than Kiwami 1, but still not as good as 0 imo: 0 > 8 > 7 > 5 > 4 > K2 > Gaiden > 6 > 3 > Ishin > K1 --- Neon >_> RIP Hornyposting on CE. 1999-2024 <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:980716837] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>Much better than Kiwami 1, but still not as good as 0imo:0 > 8 > 7 > 5 > 4 > K2 > Gaiden > 6 > 3 > Ishin > K1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperskate65 06/05/24 10:21:36 PM #22:	NoxObscuras posted... The only game that stood out with enemies blocking too much was 3. Holy shit that got annoying lol. And to be fair that's due to the fps being higher on the remaster. I always see a lot of the community say K2 is one of the worst entries and I've personally never understood why. Like, okay, it removes a few things from Y2 original. Nothing really important IMO. I like K2 just fine. --- his comparison suggests we're closet african americans. I do be streaming: http://www.twitch.tv/blah_blahx <cite>hyperskate65 posted [p:980716868] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>The only game that stood out with enemies blocking too much was 3. Holy shit that got annoying lol.</quote>And to be fair that's due to the fps being higher on the remaster. I always see a lot of the community say K2 is one of the worst entries and I've personally never understood why. Like, okay, it removes a few things from Y2 original. Nothing really important IMO. I like K2 just fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 06/05/24 10:23:11 PM #23:	hyperskate65 posted... And to be fair that's due to the fps being higher on the remaster. I always see a lot of the community say K2 is one of the worst entries and I've personally never understood why. Like, okay, it removes a few things from Y2 original. Nothing really important IMO. I like K2 just fine. The only things K2 removed are some tiny ass area with 2 shops and the Host Club management (which I heard sucked anyway) --- Neon >_> RIP Hornyposting on CE. 1999-2024 <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:980716883] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>hyperskate65 posted... </cite><quote>And to be fair that's due to the fps being higher on the remaster. I always see a lot of the community say K2 is one of the worst entries and I've personally never understood why. Like, okay, it removes a few things from Y2 original. Nothing really important IMO. I like K2 just fine.</quote>The only things K2 removed are some tiny ass area with 2 shops and the Host Club management (which I heard sucked anyway) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
party_animal07 06/05/24 10:55:15 PM #24:	Way better than 1, but not nearly as good as 0. 0 was the first one I played, so it kind of hurt my enjoyment of 1. It's pretty barebones and I wasn't ( still not honestly) a fan of the new engine Y0 9/10 Y1 6.5/10 Y2-8/10 --- https://warpzone.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GRANDIA_-696x509.jpg <cite>party_animal07 posted [p:980717212] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>Way better than 1, but not nearly as good as 0. 0 was the first one I played, so it kind of hurt my enjoyment of 1. It's pretty barebones and I wasn't ( still not honestly) a fan of the new engineY0 9/10Y1 6.5/10Y2-8/10 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--Zero- 06/05/24 11:00:10 PM #25:	K2 was actually the game that bored me enough to take a break from the series. Got burned out after playing Zero and then K1 back to back. K2 was more like K1 and the story didn't interest me. I plan on going back eventually though. 0 was amazing so I went right to 1 expecting the same, but was disappointed neither 1 or 2 lived up to it. --- Sig <cite>--Zero- posted [p:980717256] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>K2 was actually the game that bored me enough to take a break from the series. Got burned out after playing Zero and then K1 back to back. K2 was more like K1 and the story didn't interest me. I plan on going back eventually though. 0 was amazing so I went right to 1 expecting the same, but was disappointed neither 1 or 2 lived up to it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/05/24 11:47:33 PM #26:	i just unlocked the cabaret club and did the first mission. i enjoyed that part of zero and wasnt expecting it so that was cool. also ryuji seems really cool to this point imo so far i am really enjoying it --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:980717726] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>i just unlocked the cabaret club and did the first mission. i enjoyed that part of zero and wasnt expecting it so that was cool. also ryuji seems really cool to this point imo so far i am really enjoying it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 06/06/24 12:10:00 AM #28:	DKBananaSlamma posted... Much better than Kiwami 1, but still not as good as 0 <cite>Glob posted [p:980717947] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>DKBananaSlamma posted... </cite><quote>Much better than Kiwami 1, but still not as good as 0</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sfcalimari 06/06/24 12:40:39 AM #29:	K2 is great, it's one of those games that I wish I'd never played so I could go back and play it for the first time. K1 and K2 are the only Yakuza games that are really challenging on normal difficulty, I find that the non-kiwami games are way too easy on normal and way too annoying on hard, but Kiwami 1 and 2 struck a nice balance on normal. K1 is definitely a lot more challenging than K2 and requires you to really invest in your skills. Yakuza 0 definitely has a great story and a lot to do but that's kind of it, the unchallenging combat means the game just gets a bit repetitive and chore-ish after a while, whereas K1 and K2 keep challenging you more. K2 just looks amazing with the dragon engine, having seamless combat and building entering is so overdue for the series. The combat system is way simpler than K1 but I didn't mind because I was having so much fun playing the game. The dragon engine ragdoll is excessive though so you get funny stuff like enemies flying through the air after they fall over. --- "Tether even a roasted chicken." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo <cite>sfcalimari posted [p:980718229] in how is yak... [t:80783476]...</cite> <quote>K2 is great, it's one of those games that I wish I'd never played so I could go back and play it for the first time.K1 and K2 are the only Yakuza games that are really challenging on normal difficulty, I find that the non-kiwami games are way too easy on normal and way too annoying on hard, but Kiwami 1 and 2 struck a nice balance on normal. K1 is definitely a lot more challenging than K2 and requires you to really invest in your skills.Yakuza 0 definitely has a great story and a lot to do but that's kind of it, the unchallenging combat means the game just gets a bit repetitive and chore-ish after a while, whereas K1 and K2 keep challenging you more.K2 just looks amazing with the dragon engine, having seamless combat and building entering is so overdue for the series. The combat system is way simpler than K1 but I didn't mind because I was having so much fun playing the game. The dragon engine ragdoll is excessive though so you get funny stuff like enemies flying through the air after they fall over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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