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Eh. Maybe I just haven't seen the problem spoiler moderations myself then. I can definitely say at least that it's very clearly defined and easy to understand the rule, unlike some of the others that can be pretty vague and/or arbitrary.

This isn't a court. Previous rulings and moderator statements don't count or matter, and neither do the actual written site rules. What matters is how the mod that sees your post feels.

Iyami posted...

He's in a lot more than 9 episodes, the saiyan saga is like 30+ episodes

Nappa first appears in episode 5 of the original anime. Then he appears in episode 11 "The Terror of Arlia." He arrives on earth in episode 22 and exits in episode 29. Not counting the quick shots of his and Vegeta's pods flying through space as the narrator countsdown, 9 episodes is spot on. Most of the Saiyan Saga after Raditz is build up to Nappa and Vegeta arriving on earth.

Edit. In Kai, it's 7 episodes.

i once got modded for FF7 spoilers aerith dieing and this was LONG before the remake was even announced

and im 90% sure that scene was once plastered on gamefaqs home page

LeCh0nk posted...

I feel like once something passes the 10 year mark it should no longer be considered a spoiler.

I'd straight up stop coming here. The amount of games, movies, books and tv shows you'd be getting casually spoiled would be insane, not to mention the trolls would be making topics specifically to do it about everything from over a decade ago.

I mean just look at any time someone makes a watchthrough topic for anything, people can't help themselves and start discussing the massive spoilers from later in the show, though thankfully as it stands they have to cover those spoilers.

I recently got modded for sharing Aeriths outcome in FF7...

One of the most annoying things I had to deal with for the longest time was the innocuousness of the Xenoblade fandom, and their obsession that any party member joining after the first few hours was a spoiler.

I could at least understand why Fiora would be considered a spoiler, since her death was faked in the first hour of the game, and she only rejoins the party about midway though the game (even though it's revealed she's alive waaay before that).

But Zeke, and even Morag, in XBC2 were the dumbest fucking hills to die on. You fight Morag as a boss once early on in the game before she joins you, and Zeke is literally on the back of the box in a screen shot as being in the player's party, yet people would still mark you for talking about them without a spoiler tag, or not calling them by the number in which they join your party.

It's like the Xenoblade fan base was having their first experience of having additional party members join your team later on in a JRPG or something.

It was as bad as the god awful Free Company in XIV I was in for a awhile who had a rule that you couldn't call any dungeons or trials by their name if you were asking for help, and only by the level requirement, because "spoilers".

Spoilers don't have a time limit, all the age of the spoiler decides is how severe the punishment is.

That is like modding 101.

Iyami posted...

Isn't that an important plot element though?

No

That plot point is like 25 years old and doesnt even affect the show that much. wtf

kingdrake2 posted...

dolphin and whale = big winners.

Throw the stinky butter at them!

LinkDaLunatic posted...

What matters is

Yup, which is pretty sad.

Bringit posted...

I'd straight up stop coming here. The amount of games, movies, books and tv shows you'd be getting casually spoiled would be insane, not to mention the trolls would be making topics specifically to do it about everything from over a decade ago.

I mean just look at any time someone makes a watchthrough topic for anything, people can't help themselves and start discussing the massive spoilers from later in the show, though thankfully as it stands they have to cover those spoilers.

As I said I feel it should be fine in a topic that's about said thing and said thing is old.

If the topic is say about how do I do x thing in x game I could see that being a problem cause that would mean the TC hasn't even finished the game

Get used to it.
We're all on thin ice around here nowadays.

If it was posted in a Dragon Ball community filled with hardcore fans, I don't see it as a problem. Anyone frequenting a Dragon Ball forum is going to know that. That scene is over 30 years old.

If it was posted in an unrelated forum or thread, I could understand removing it.

Nothing weirder than deleting untagged spoilers I guess?

you guys are out of your minds if you think it should have been modded

I do think the age and pop-culture footprint of the spoiler should be taken into consideration.

To use Star Wars as an example... the nature of Darth Vader is pretty well known even among non-fans. On a Star Wars forum, when discussing the prequels or even sequels, it would be difficult to do so without mentioning his... lineage. Every thread would wade into spoilers very fast. Might as well label the whole forum as spoilers and be done with it.

Lucasfilm themselves haven't considered that a spoiler on decades, as they've repeatedly used Vader's lineage in promotional material.

Sticking with Star Wars though... if someone on that same forum dropped a spoiler from Ashoka, that should be dealt with because it's a new(ish) show. It can be reasonably assumed not everyone there has seen it yet.

Now think how many things you could have correctly spoiler tagged and still spent less time than you did writing that post.

CE wanted dis, be careful what you ask for

Vegy posted...

CE wanted dis, be careful what you ask for

Spoiler rules have pretty much been consistent for all of the sites history. Clearly mistakes do get made, but the rule itself is the same today as it was when I made my first account in 2004.

Nappa's death to Vegeta is absolutely NOT a major plot point or twist. Ridiculous to get modded for spoilers for that.

it it spoilers to say what happens to guldo

why are some of u entertaining this

like, how is *yakuza 8 spoilers*

saying kiryu has cancer

NOT a spoiler since it was in promotional material, but this tiny speck of a moment in a 30 year old series a mod worthy spoiler

Spoilers are spoilers. Doesnt matter how trivial or old it is. How have you people not learned this yet

The spoiler rule is probably one of the ones I think the mods have actually got spot on tbh.

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I think that should be less about the age of the spoiler and more about the intent. If someone asks a question about a game and forgets to tag a spoiler that could probably be expected from the question, NKL them. If someone is being reckless about spoilers, warning. If they're deliberately spoiling things, no matter how old, ban the fuck out of them.

MC_BatCommander posted...

Nothing weirder than deleting untagged spoilers I guess?

i mean its weird because the topic was older.

The mod called it a major plot point and a plot twist, which it is neither.

and its arguable that its a spoiler in the first place because its in promotional material.

if the rule is every unmarked story beat spoilers then thats the rule, but that seems way different than the intent

It's like saying Goku going to Namek is a spoiler. It's not.

gamepimp12 posted...

i mean its weird because the topic was older.

The mod called it a major plot point and a plot twist, which it is neither.

and its arguable that its a spoiler in the first place because its in promotional material.

if the rule is every unmarked story beat spoilers then thats the rule, but that seems way different than the intent

gamefaqs rules say if something is in promotional material its not a spoiler

and what you posted is in lots of dragon ball promotional material

Spoiler alert for Stephen Kings Salems Lot:

Its a book about vampires.

Jupiter posted...

It's like saying Goku going to Namek is a spoiler. It's not.

By the very precedent they set with OP's moderation, it is.
So if you don't get moderated for this, then it's all bullshit.

I'll chime in and say that, in a closed community like this board, and considering how old most people here are, and that in all likelihood everyone has seen all of DBZ by now, and anyone who hasn't probably won't watch it, the moderation was unjustified. You've got to know your audience/community by this point.

However, in a more open community, spoilers should always be considered. Just over the past few weeks, I've seen clips of a Vtuber playing through one of the DBZ games and she has never seen DBZ before so everything was surprising to her. She had no idea what to expect from any of the encounters, and it's terrible to try robbing someone of their first experience in anything they show interest in unless they specifically say it's okay to do.

LinkDaLunatic posted...

By the very precedent they set with OP's moderation, it is.
So if you don't get moderated for this, then it's all bullshit.

That's the reason it's inconsistent, because people jump through hoops to say things are spoilers. Which in turn makes it confusing what's spoilers.

Ie, saying someone is a party member shouldn't be a spoiler unless there's something important about it. Like... Using ff7 as an example. It shouldn't be spoilers that Yuffie joins your party, because she's in the promotional material, and even if she wasn't, the manual mentions her, and even if THAT wasn't a thing, her joining doesn't provide any real spoilers to the story because of the role she has in the plot. Her joining doesn't spoiler the plot, and it doesn't lean towards anything in particular.

But if idk, there was something like "Sephiroth joins your party to have one final stand versus Rufus on the top of shinra" was a plot point, then that would be something that needs to be a spoiler, because it dictates something about how the plot is going to go. You would know that ultimately cloud is going to work with Sephiroth, and the bigger enemy is Rufus in the end of the day, which could lead to you guessing other plot points and ruin the journey itself.

The issue is that sometimes people are so strict that it becomes nonsensical. Is saying that you can summon Bahamut a spoiler?

I did not even know you can get modded for spoilers. That's pretty stupid.

If you don't want spoilers get off the internet

firedoom666 posted...

I did not even know you can get modded for spoilers. That's pretty stupid.

You've been here since 2005 and you didn't know? You realize that there's a spoiler tag to help people avoid getting spoiled on things, right?

I wouldn't say it's stupid either since getting spoiled on something you were looking forward to is annoying. "Get off the Internet" We should at least be able to browse GameFAQs without getting something spoiled

firedoom666 posted...

I did not even know you can get modded for spoilers. That's pretty stupid.

If you don't want spoilers get off the internet

No, it makes sense. Primarily because mods remove the actual post in question. That's fine. What's not fine is that too many and you could find yourself warned etc. Under normal circumstances? I'd say "makes sense." But that lack of consistency is the problem.

Scotty_Rogers posted...

You've been here since 2005 and you didn't know? You realize that there's a spoiler tag to help people avoid getting spoiled on things, right?

I wouldn't say it's stupid either since getting spoiled on something you were looking forward to is annoying. "Get off the Internet" We should at least be able to browse GameFAQs without getting something spoiled

I've seen spoiler tags, but I also seen all of the stuff people mentioned here outside of those tags, but I guess in those cases no one reported it.

I personally don't understand the big deal about spoilers anyways. Like I understand how someone could be trolling and putting spoilers for something new in a topic title. But why enter a topic discussing a movie or game if you don't want spoilers

I got modded for saying I was excited to see The Green Goblin in Spider-Man: No Way Home.

Got a warning or purge for that one despite him being heard in the trailer and a Goblin bomb being shown in the trailer.

How the hell is saying I'm excited to see him in the movie and proof he's in the movie mod worthy?

I got modded in a topic asking to explain the ending of Lost. I did. Anyone who's been on the Internet the last 13 years knows the ending. I got modded a month after the post was made

pazzy posted...

That's the reason it's inconsistent, because people jump through hoops to say things are spoilers. Which in turn makes it confusing what's spoilers.

Ie, saying someone is a party member shouldn't be a spoiler unless there's something important about it. Like... Using ff7 as an example. It shouldn't be spoilers that Yuffie joins your party, because she's in the promotional material, and even if she wasn't, the manual mentions her, and even if THAT wasn't a thing, her joining doesn't provide any real spoilers to the story because of the role she has in the plot. Her joining doesn't spoiler the plot, and it doesn't lean towards anything in particular.

But if idk, there was something like "Sephiroth joins your party to have one final stand versus Rufus on the top of shinra" was a plot point, then that would be something that needs to be a spoiler, because it dictates something about how the plot is going to go. You would know that ultimately cloud is going to work with Sephiroth, and the bigger enemy is Rufus in the end of the day, which could lead to you guessing other plot points and ruin the journey itself.

The issue is that sometimes people are so strict that it becomes nonsensical. Is saying that you can summon Bahamut a spoiler?

I remember I argued saying something DOESNT happen in the plot is just as much of a spoiler. Like saying yeah x character doesn't die in the game.

LonelyStoner posted...

Spoiler alert for Stephen Kings Salems Lot:

Its a book about vampires.

Preorder cancelled.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

I remember I argued saying something DOESNT happen in the plot is just as much of a spoiler. Like saying yeah x character doesn't die in the game.

I agree.