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Kradek 05/22/24 3:42:37 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2024/04/10/1243802678/abortion-comstock-act#:~:text= The Comstock Act (linked here and here at the Legal Information Institute) is an 1873 anti-obscenity law, named after anti-vice crusader Anthony Comstock. The law, which is still on the books, calls for banning the mailing or shipping of "every obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, filthy or vile article, matter, thing, device, or substance." In addition, it specifically outlaws mailing "every article or thing designed, adapted, or intended for producing abortion." The intent of the law was not expressly about abortion, according to Mary Ziegler, law professor at the University of California, Davis. Instead, it was about what Comstock and his contemporaries called "sexual purity." "The fear was that if people knew about abortion and contraception, which was also outlawed originally, that they would have sex they shouldn't have, just as if they, you know, looked at pornography," Ziegler said. Of course, abortion pills as well as many things that might be considered"obscene," "lewd" and so on are currently sent through the mail. That's because the legal interpretation of the Comstock Act was narrowed repeatedly over the years. The law's abortion provisions were rendered moot by Roe v. Wade in 1973. But with the Supreme Court overturning Roe in 2022, opponents of abortion rights started viewing Comstock as a way to restrict abortion, without the need for Congress or the courts to do anything. In particular, that policy is promoted by "Project 2025." "A straightforward interpretation of the statute is that it prohibits all interstate shipment or sale of abortion drugs and devices, regardless of whether state law allows abortion," Craddock says. More in the link, including discussion of Project 2025. The article is from April, however I feel like not a lot of people know that this is their strategy for having a national abortion ban without legislating one, as the Comstock Act is still officially on the books. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980509904] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2024/04/10/1243802678/abortion-comstock-act#:~:text=The Comstock Act (linked here and here at the Legal Information Institute) is an 1873 anti-obscenity law, named after anti-vice crusader Anthony Comstock. The law, which is still on the books, calls for banning the mailing or shipping of "every obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, filthy or vile article, matter, thing, device, or substance." In addition, it specifically outlaws mailing "every article or thing designed, adapted, or intended for producing abortion."The intent of the law was not expressly about abortion, according to Mary Ziegler, law professor at the University of California, Davis. Instead, it was about what Comstock and his contemporaries called "sexual purity.""The fear was that if people knew about abortion and contraception, which was also outlawed originally, that they would have sex they shouldn't have, just as if they, you know, looked at pornography," Ziegler said.Of course, abortion pills as well as many things that might be considered"obscene," "lewd" and so on are currently sent through the mail. That's because the legal interpretation of the Comstock Act was narrowed repeatedly over the years.The law's abortion provisions were rendered moot by Roe v. Wade in 1973. But with the Supreme Court overturning Roe in 2022, opponents of abortion rights started viewing Comstock as a way to restrict abortion, without the need for Congress or the courts to do anything.In particular, that policy is promoted by "Project 2025.""A straightforward interpretation of the statute is that it prohibits all interstate shipment or sale of abortion drugs and devices, regardless of whether state law allows abortion," Craddock says.More in the link, including discussion of Project 2025. The article is from April, however I feel like not a lot of people know that this is their strategy for having a national abortion ban without legislating one, as the Comstock Act is still officially on the books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 05/22/24 4:10:52 PM #2:	Democrats should use it to ban bibles --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:980510320] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Democrats should use it to ban bibles </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/22/24 4:12:17 PM #3:	Irony posted... Democrats should use it to ban bibles We'll have worse things to worry about if the GOP wins --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:980510353] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Democrats should use it to ban bibles</quote>We'll have worse things to worry about if the GOP wins </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 05/22/24 4:15:13 PM #4:	Irony posted... Democrats should use it to ban bibles Plenty of Democrats are religious. <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:980510399] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Democrats should use it to ban bibles</quote>Plenty of Democrats are religious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROB45 05/22/24 4:41:04 PM #5:	Abortion is bad for the economy. How are the hospitals supposed to make all that childbirth money if people give them the old coathanger treatment early on? ~~Seriously though, you people need to start a god damn revolution to get proper healthcare access.~~ <cite>ROB45 posted [p:980510764] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Abortion is bad for the economy. How are the hospitals supposed to make all that childbirth money if people give them the old coathanger treatment early on? Seriously though, you people need to start a god damn revolution to get proper healthcare access.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/22/24 4:56:25 PM #6:	"Trump couldn't possibly do this?!" "Actually, it'd only take 50 Senators and a Republican majority in the House." "Shut up, genocide joe!" --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980510943] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>"Trump couldn't possibly do this?!" "Actually, it'd only take 50 Senators and a Republican majority in the House.""Shut up, genocide joe!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 05/22/24 4:57:39 PM #7:	ClayGuida posted... "Trump couldn't possibly do this?!" "Actually, it'd only take 50 Senators and a Republican majority in the House." "Shut up, genocide joe!" "No way would they even do this. It's just fear mongering. Plus Donnie is stupid he won't be smart enough to do it!" --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:980510958] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>"Trump couldn't possibly do this?!" "Actually, it'd only take 50 Senators and a Republican majority in the House.""Shut up, genocide joe!"</quote>"No way would they even do this. It's just fear mongering. Plus Donnie is stupid he won't be smart enough to do it!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 05/22/24 4:59:28 PM #8:	Even playing devil's advocate and trying to put myself in their shoes, how does this actually benefit anyone outside of hypothetically being a reason for a lawmaker to pat themselves on the back and say "God probably approves of this decision"? --- Thanks for reading! <cite>CRON posted [p:980510990] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Even playing devil's advocate and trying to put myself in their shoes, how does this actually benefit anyone outside of hypothetically being a reason for a lawmaker to pat themselves on the back and say "God probably approves of this decision"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/22/24 5:00:46 PM #9:	CRON posted... Even playing devil's advocate and trying to put myself in their shoes, how does this actually benefit anyone outside of hypothetically being a reason for a lawmaker to pat themselves on the back and say "God probably approves of this decision"? Appeasing the 5% of voters who believe abortion is murder. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980511010] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite><quote>Even playing devil's advocate and trying to put myself in their shoes, how does this actually benefit anyone outside of hypothetically being a reason for a lawmaker to pat themselves on the back and say "God probably approves of this decision"?</quote>Appeasing the 5% of voters who believe abortion is murder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 05/22/24 5:04:17 PM #10:	ClayGuida posted... Appeasing the 5% of voters who believe abortion is murder. Again, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a politician or financier who is interested in keeping American citizens down to secure power and money. Going off that, wouldn't it make sense to try to appeal to as many voting demographics as possible so there's an even higher chance of "success"? As far as the GOP goes we've already been seeing diminishing returns by them trying too hard to appeal to the MAGA crowd, only for a lot of Republican politicians to be accused of being "RINOs". --- Thanks for reading! <cite>CRON posted [p:980511057] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>Appeasing the 5% of voters who believe abortion is murder.</quote>Again, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a politician or financier who is interested in keeping American citizens down to secure power and money. Going off that, wouldn't it make sense to try to appeal to as many voting demographics as possible so there's an even higher chance of "success"? As far as the GOP goes we've already been seeing diminishing returns by them trying too hard to appeal to the MAGA crowd, only for a lot of Republican politicians to be accused of being "RINOs". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 05/22/24 5:05:46 PM #11:	CRON posted... Again, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a politician or financier who is interested in keeping American citizens down to secure power and money. Going off that, wouldn't it make sense to try to appeal to as many voting demographics as possible so there's an even higher chance of "success"? Why? You are ignoring their constant attempts at eroding voting rights of citizens. They are doing this donkey shit on TOP of making it easier to keep their power and money. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:980511077] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite><quote>Again, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a politician or financier who is interested in keeping American citizens down to secure power and money. Going off that, wouldn't it make sense to try to appeal to as many voting demographics as possible so there's an even higher chance of "success"?</quote>Why? You are ignoring their constant attempts at eroding voting rights of citizens. They are doing this donkey shit on TOP of making it easier to keep their power and money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 05/22/24 5:10:53 PM #12:	Heineken14 posted... "No way would they even do this. It's just fear mongering. Plus Donnie is stupid he won't be smart enough to do it!" Unfortunately, so many terminally online leftists think Project 2025 is just BS from "desperate" Democrats. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e7a57a46.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d6add93a.png https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2b8408e.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/502ca3cf.png https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62ff7526.jpg --- Miss what the Current Events board used to be? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://discord.gg/ThGKk5UaK6 <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:980511152] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>"No way would they even do this. It's just fear mongering. Plus Donnie is stupid he won't be smart enough to do it!"</quote>Unfortunately, so many terminally online leftists think Project 2025 is just BS from "desperate" Democrats.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e7a57a46.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d6add93a.pnghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2b8408e.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/502ca3cf.pnghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62ff7526.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/22/24 5:25:08 PM #13:	CRON posted... Again, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a politician or financier who is interested in keeping American citizens down to secure power and money. Going off that, wouldn't it make sense to try to appeal to as many voting demographics as possible so there's an even higher chance of "success"? As far as the GOP goes we've already been seeing diminishing returns by them trying too hard to appeal to the MAGA crowd, only for a lot of Republican politicians to be accused of being "RINOs". They don't care about appealing to voters that aren't their base because they plan on ending elections when they get back in. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980511355] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite><quote>Again, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a politician or financier who is interested in keeping American citizens down to secure power and money. Going off that, wouldn't it make sense to try to appeal to as many voting demographics as possible so there's an even higher chance of "success"? As far as the GOP goes we've already been seeing diminishing returns by them trying too hard to appeal to the MAGA crowd, only for a lot of Republican politicians to be accused of being "RINOs".</quote>They don't care about appealing to voters that aren't their base because they plan on ending elections when they get back in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 05/22/24 5:27:39 PM #14:	Sounds like a law that directly clashes with other laws. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:980511387] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a law that directly clashes with other laws. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/22/24 5:30:02 PM #15:	Guide posted... Sounds like a law that directly clashes with other laws. That may be, however it's a 100+ year law still on the books and Republicans certainly aren't going to give a shit when they enforce it to achieve their Christo-fascist goal (Anthony Comstock was also a Christo-fascist, dude was seriously crazy from his religious beliefs and wanted to force everybody else to live by them. He pretty much created sting operations by posing as someone who wanted to buy pornography and then had police who were close by come in to arrest the seller. He'd also try to preach to his fellow Union soldiers during the war and get super butthurt mad cause so many soldiers would pass around porno mags/books. It's considered the main reason he wanted to go on this anti-lascivious crusade). --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980511412] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>Sounds like a law that directly clashes with other laws.</quote>That may be, however it's a 100+ year law still on the books and Republicans certainly aren't going to give a shit when they enforce it to achieve their Christo-fascist goal (Anthony Comstock was also a Christo-fascist, dude was seriously crazy from his religious beliefs and wanted to force everybody else to live by them. He pretty much created sting operations by posing as someone who wanted to buy pornography and then had police who were close by come in to arrest the seller. He'd also try to preach to his fellow Union soldiers during the war and get super butthurt mad cause so many soldiers would pass around porno mags/books. It's considered the main reason he wanted to go on this anti-lascivious crusade). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/22/24 5:31:35 PM #16:	Humble_Novice posted... Unfortunately, so many terminally online leftists think Project 2025 is just BS from "desperate" Democrats. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e7a57a46.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d6add93a.png https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2b8408e.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/502ca3cf.png https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62ff7526.jpg I'd wager that at a minimum 4/5 of those are Russian bots. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980511426] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Unfortunately, so many terminally online leftists think Project 2025 is just BS from "desperate" Democrats.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e7a57a46.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d6add93a.pnghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2b8408e.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/502ca3cf.pnghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62ff7526.jpg</quote>I'd wager that at a minimum 4/5 of those are Russian bots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 05/22/24 6:55:46 PM #17:	ClayGuida posted... I'd wager that at a minimum 4/5 of those are Russian bots. A number of them are from other countries encouraging American leftists not to even vote at all. --- Miss what the Current Events board used to be? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://discord.gg/ThGKk5UaK6 <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:980512574] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>I'd wager that at a minimum 4/5 of those are Russian bots.</quote>A number of them are from other countries encouraging American leftists not to even vote at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/22/24 6:56:41 PM #18:	Humble_Novice posted... A number of them are from other countries encouraging American leftists not to even vote at all. Precisely why they should be ignored by everyone. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980512585] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>A number of them are from other countries encouraging American leftists not to even vote at all.</quote>Precisely why they should be ignored by everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/22/24 6:56:45 PM #19:	wtf is blue maga? --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980512587] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>wtf is blue maga? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/22/24 9:11:56 PM #20:	thronedfire2 posted... wtf is blue maga? The Google definitions I've found don't match up with how I've seen it used here. When posters here use it it seems to be some combination of A) They still support Biden B) They say Biden should be voted for because the alternative of Trump winning is far worse and will bring about the actual destruction of the nation as we know it and C) vote blue no matter who Basically they're trying to claim that Biden has some sort of Trump-equivalent level of cultism due to those reasons. Just ask CountCorvinius or whatever, that joke loves calling anyone under the sun blue maga --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980514641] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>wtf is blue maga?</quote>The Google definitions I've found don't match up with how I've seen it used here. When posters here use it it seems to be some combination of A) They still support Biden B) They say Biden should be voted for because the alternative of Trump winning is far worse and will bring about the actual destruction of the nation as we know it and C) vote blue no matter whoBasically they're trying to claim that Biden has some sort of Trump-equivalent level of cultism due to those reasons.Just ask CountCorvinius or whatever, that joke loves calling anyone under the sun blue maga </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/22/24 9:13:50 PM #21:	thronedfire2 posted... wtf is blue maga? Russian troll bots on twitter. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980514679] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>wtf is blue maga?</quote>Russian troll bots on twitter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 05/22/24 9:20:49 PM #22:	"Ugh Biden sucks but I'm stuck voting for him since he's still far better than Trump" "lmao cultist much? Blue MAGA is insane." --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:980514774] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>"Ugh Biden sucks but I'm stuck voting for him since he's still far better than Trump""lmao cultist much? Blue MAGA is insane." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 05/23/24 6:44:15 AM #23:	thronedfire2 posted... wtf is blue maga? A poor attempt to make it sound like American liberals are just as cultist as MAGA is. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:980519157] in How Repubs... [t:80774366]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>wtf is blue maga?</quote>A poor attempt to make it sound like American liberals are just as cultist as MAGA is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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