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SilvosForever 05/21/24 3:54:20 PM #1:	Are citizens of a country ruled by terrorists blameless? - Results (51 votes) Yes - they have no fault whatever happens. 31.37% (16 votes) 16 Yes if they voice dissent, no if they voice support. 19.61% (10 votes) 10 Yes if they voice dissent, no if they voice support OR are silent. 11.76% (6 votes) 6 No - they are part and parcel to their country's decisions. 37.25% (19 votes) 19 Topic --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif <cite>SilvosForever posted [p:980494869] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote> Are citizens of a country ruled by terrorists blameless? - Results (51 votes) Yes - they have no fault whatever happens. 31.37% (16 votes) 16 Yes if they voice dissent, no if they voice support. 19.61% (10 votes) 10 Yes if they voice dissent, no if they voice support OR are silent. 11.76% (6 votes) 6 No - they are part and parcel to their country's decisions. 37.25% (19 votes) 19 Show Voting Form Topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/21/24 3:58:44 PM #2:	Even if they are not blameless that doesn't mean their lives are forfeit. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:980494936] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>Even if they are not blameless that doesn't mean their lives are forfeit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 05/21/24 3:59:15 PM #3:	His seems like a good faith topic made by a user with less than 20 active posts. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:980494945] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>His seems like a good faith topic made by a user with less than 20 active posts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 05/21/24 3:59:23 PM #4:	creativerealms posted... Even if they are not blameless that doesn't mean their lives are forfeit. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:980494947] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Even if they are not blameless that doesn't mean their lives are forfeit.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 05/21/24 3:59:32 PM #5:	If the terrorists were covertly funded and supported by another state in order to divide the country and make their government illegitimate. If 75% of the population were not old enough to vote at the last election. Then they are blameless. Certainly they should not be subject to ethnic cleansing. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:980494951] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>If the terrorists were covertly funded and supported by another state in order to divide the country and make their government illegitimate.If 75% of the population were not old enough to vote at the last election.Then they are blameless. Certainly they should not be subject to ethnic cleansing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 05/21/24 4:01:05 PM #6:	What if 70% of the population are kids or adolescents? Does that matter in your super serious poll? <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:980494977] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>What if 70% of the population are kids or adolescents? Does that matter in your super serious poll?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/21/24 4:05:55 PM #7:	SilvosForever posted... Yes if they voice dissent, no if they voice support. This, with the "yes" also extending to those who neither voice nor act either way (beyond what they're basically forced to do). And also creativerealms posted... Even if they are not blameless that doesn't mean their lives are forfeit. This. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980495062] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>SilvosForever posted... </cite><quote>Yes if they voice dissent, no if they voice support.</quote>This, with the "yes" also extending to those who neither voice nor act either way (beyond what they're basically forced to do).And alsocreativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Even if they are not blameless that doesn't mean their lives are forfeit.</quote>This. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GS4Life 05/21/24 4:09:13 PM #8:	I mean unless they are actively participating in the terrorism yes --- -Grove Street 4 Life- Hey Bayley! Oh! Ah! I wanna know! <cite>GS4Life posted [p:980495114] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>I mean unless they are actively participating in the terrorism yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
runewalshPSiv 05/21/24 4:13:03 PM #9:	They aren't when a sizable portion of that country supports the terrorists. Something something 1 nazi and 10 people at a table = 11 nazis. --- A part of the machine <cite>runewalshPSiv posted [p:980495173] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>They aren't when a sizable portion of that country supports the terrorists. Something something 1 nazi and 10 people at a table = 11 nazis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/21/24 4:21:20 PM #10:	runewalshPSiv posted... They aren't when a sizable portion of that country supports the terrorists. Something something 1 nazi and 10 people at a table = 11 nazis. It's a bit different when people are unable to leave the "table" in question because both the "Nazis" and the "anti-Nazis" (who in the situation being referenced here, are ironically far closer to actual Nazis) are forcing them to stay there, and would in fact quite like to leave the table (or make the Nazis leave it) if they were able to do so. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980495298] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>runewalshPSiv posted... </cite><quote>They aren't when a sizable portion of that country supports the terrorists. Something something 1 nazi and 10 people at a table = 11 nazis.</quote>It's a bit different when people are unable to leave the "table" in question because both the "Nazis" and the "anti-Nazis" (who in the situation being referenced here, are ironically far closer to actual Nazis) are forcing them to stay there, and would in fact quite like to leave the table (or make the Nazis leave it) if they were able to do so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 05/21/24 4:24:47 PM #11:	No. People need to stop with that, insistent need to carry the blame for something they didn't do or support. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:980495341] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>No.People need to stop with that, insistent need to carry the blame for something they didn't do or support.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/23/24 1:16:04 PM #12:	The people who voted NO. Using that logic is what terrorist use to the target civilians. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980523593] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>The people who voted NO. Using that logic is what terrorist use to the target civilians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 05/23/24 1:23:12 PM #13:	cjsdowg posted... The people who voted NO. Using that logic is what terrorist use to the target civilians. So much to unpack with this post I don't even know where to begin.... <cite>LightningThief posted [p:980523696] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>The people who voted NO. Using that logic is what terrorist use to the target civilians.</quote>So much to unpack with this post I don't even know where to begin....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 05/23/24 1:50:44 PM #14:	LightningThief posted... So much to unpack with this post I don't even know where to begin.... He's a hardliner. That should clear some things up for you. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:980524087] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>LightningThief posted... </cite><quote>So much to unpack with this post I don't even know where to begin....</quote>He's a hardliner. That should clear some things up for you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaBroski 05/23/24 2:18:21 PM #15:	Depending on the situation, speaking out could lead to the citizens death. So whether or not the citizen speaks out is not the issue. Whether or not the citizens support the terrorists is a different matter. Its also entirely possible, such as in the case of Palestine, the terrorists may attempt to help their people better than the alternative. In situations like that, there truly is no good answer. <cite>MangaBroski posted [p:980524496] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>Depending on the situation, speaking out could lead to the citizens death. So whether or not the citizen speaks out is not the issue.Whether or not the citizens support the terrorists is a different matter. Its also entirely possible, such as in the case of Palestine, the terrorists may attempt to help their people better than the alternative. In situations like that, there truly is no good answer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotallyNotAGirl 05/23/24 2:23:07 PM #16:	I mean are US citizens worth blame for what atrocities the US federal government does on the world stage? Basically, blowing up children due to a terrorist organization is a no-go for me, dawg. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>TotallyNotAGirl posted [p:980524573] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>I mean are US citizens worth blame for what atrocities the US federal government does on the world stage?Basically, blowing up children due to a terrorist organization is a no-go for me, dawg. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth_C_Ryu 05/23/24 2:46:20 PM #18:	No. Americans have a duty to ensure that a non-terrorist sits in the white house. Preferably by voting. --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted [p:980524898] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>No. Americans have a duty to ensure that a non-terrorist sits in the white house. Preferably by voting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimberly 05/23/24 2:47:14 PM #19:	I'm not shocked to see the percentage of people who voted no. --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost <cite>Kimberly posted [p:980524915] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>I'm not shocked to see the percentage of people who voted no. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 05/23/24 2:51:00 PM #20:	Did you consider yourself free of blame when GW Bush was in office? --- You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980524976] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>Did you consider yourself free of blame when GW Bush was in office? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 05/23/24 2:51:24 PM #21:	Wherethisfeom posted... So you mean yes, they are blameless, or rather the ones who dissent aren't to blame. You read the topic wrong. Although TC did word the topic rather weirdly. You're right, I definitely read that wrong. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:980524984] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>Wherethisfeom posted... </cite><quote>So you mean yes, they are blameless, or rather the ones who dissent aren't to blame. You read the topic wrong. Although TC did word the topic rather weirdly.</quote>You're right, I definitely read that wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimberly 05/23/24 2:57:50 PM #22:	bigblu89 posted... Did you consider yourself free of blame when GW Bush was in office? You think you're cooking here but I think you forgot to turn the burner on. Most people on this board were literal children and teenagers when Bush was in office. The way the US handles activism and protest is not good and far from the democratic ideals it espouses, but it's not even comparable to being killed or forced into labor camps for dissent. It's a false equivalence which distracts from the question of what oppressed people face in regimes like those ran by terrorists, whether the question was meant to or not. --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost <cite>Kimberly posted [p:980525070] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted... </cite><quote>Did you consider yourself free of blame when GW Bush was in office?</quote>You think you're cooking here but I think you forgot to turn the burner on.Most people on this board were literal children and teenagers when Bush was in office. The way the US handles activism and protest is not good and far from the democratic ideals it espouses, but it's not even comparable to being killed or forced into labor camps for dissent. It's a false equivalence which distracts from the question of what oppressed people face in regimes like those ran by terrorists, whether the question was meant to or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 05/23/24 3:27:47 PM #23:	Kimberly posted... You think you're cooking here but I think you forgot to turn the burner on. Most people on this board were literal children and teenagers when Bush was in office. The way the US handles activism and protest is not good and far from the democratic ideals it espouses, but it's not even comparable to being killed or forced into labor camps for dissent. It's a false equivalence which distracts from the question of what oppressed people face in regimes like those ran by terrorists, whether the question was meant to or not. The question was simply "Are citizens of a country ruled by terrorists blameless?" Member of the Republican Party (Bush Jr. included) have repeatedly been called terrorists by people on CE. Are they terrorists in the way you chose to define them? Obviously not. Are they still terrorists? Debatable, but most would say yes. --- You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980525514] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>Kimberly posted... </cite><quote>You think you're cooking here but I think you forgot to turn the burner on.Most people on this board were literal children and teenagers when Bush was in office. The way the US handles activism and protest is not good and far from the democratic ideals it espouses, but it's not even comparable to being killed or forced into labor camps for dissent. It's a false equivalence which distracts from the question of what oppressed people face in regimes like those ran by terrorists, whether the question was meant to or not.</quote>The question was simply "Are citizens of a country ruled by terrorists blameless?"Member of the Republican Party (Bush Jr. included) have repeatedly been called terrorists by people on CE.Are they terrorists in the way you chose to define them? Obviously not.Are they still terrorists? Debatable, but most would say yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 05/23/24 3:37:52 PM #24:	Kimberly posted... Most people on this board were literal children and teenagers when Bush was in office. Counterpoint: Most of the people in Gaza *right now* are children and teenagers. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:980525667] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>Kimberly posted... </cite><quote>Most people on this board were literal children and teenagers when Bush was in office.</quote>Counterpoint:Most of the people in Gaza right now are children and teenagers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimberly 05/23/24 3:49:15 PM #25:	That's less a counterpoint and more my exact point. --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost <cite>Kimberly posted [p:980525843] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>That's less a counterpoint and more my exact point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 05/23/24 3:49:22 PM #26:	Kimberly over here with the false gotcha. thats definitely not disheartening to see from a moderator. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:980525844] in Are citize... [t:80773688]...</cite> <quote>Kimberly over here with the false gotcha. thats definitely not disheartening to see from a moderator. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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