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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 7:33:41 PM
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*3 days early access - more like pay extra to not be penalized

and apparently there is a quest you have to pre-order to get

So you can pre-order a $70 game to get your special dlc but you gotta wait 3 days cause you didn't shell out $39 more dollars

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Tyranthraxus
05/19/24 7:34:47 PM
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Don't preorder this game. Don't even buy the game.

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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 7:41:55 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Don't preorder this game. Don't even buy the game.

I see reports suggests pre-orders for the game are strong
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Dakimakura
05/19/24 7:43:07 PM
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Wait until you see the 4 days early access price

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AceMos
05/19/24 7:44:20 PM
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kinda reminds me of how game companies have their costumers work for free as bug testers

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TendoDRM
05/19/24 7:44:35 PM
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Can't wait to play it, love AC.

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NoxObscuras
05/19/24 7:44:40 PM
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Yeah, a lot of AAA games have been adopting that paid early access practice. It's dumb. The first time I ever encountered that was for the MMO ArcheAge. At least there it made sense because for an mmo like that, getting a 4 day headstart was a huge bonus for the competitive players. You could buy houses and things in-game, and it was first come first serve. The headstart players got to claim the good locations first.

What's also been dumb to me is when AAA games offer a "beta test" like a month before release, but you have to pre-order the game to gain access. That's just paying for a glorified demo if the beta is that close to the release date.

They need to stop taking ideas from MMO's and using them in stupid (greedy) ways.

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sfcalimari
05/19/24 7:45:22 PM
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AceMos posted...
costumers


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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 7:45:59 PM
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TendoDRM posted...
Can't wait to play it, love AC.

Which edition you pre-ordered?
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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 7:46:49 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Yeah, a lot of AAA games have been adopting that paid early access practice. It's dumb. The first time I ever encountered that was for the MMO ArcheAge. At least there it made sense because for an mmo like that, getting a 4 day headstart was a huge bonus for the competitive players. You could buy houses and things in-game, and it was first come first serve. The headstart players got to claim the good locations first.

What's also been dumb to me is when AAA games offer a "beta test" like a month before release, but you have to pre-order the game to gain access. That's just paying for a glorified demo if the beta is that close to the release date.

They need to stop taking ideas from MMO's and using them in stupid (greedy) ways.

So it wasn't Diablo 4 who started this BS?
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TendoDRM
05/19/24 7:51:24 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Which edition you pre-ordered?

None, lol at preordering digital games.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/19/24 7:51:35 PM
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When has this ever not been the case (except Nintendo)?

I buy all mine for under $15 by just waiting a few years.

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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 7:52:34 PM
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TendoDRM posted...
None, lol at preordering digital games.

What...but you ... won't get the extra quest and will have to wait 3 days to play.

Thought you were a big AC fan.
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RetuenOfDevsman
05/19/24 7:53:41 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
What...but you ... won't get the extra quest
When has that ever been the case? "Preorder exclusives" end up as DLC in no time.

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Kain_Highwind
05/19/24 7:55:50 PM
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FF14 is gonna have early access by like 5 days if you preorder the newest expansion lol

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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 7:57:04 PM
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Kain_Highwind posted...
FF14 is gonna have early access by like 5 days if you preorder the newest expansion lol

For FREE

all you have to do is, purchase the game and if you weren't going to buy it anyways you wouldn't be playing
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NoxObscuras
05/19/24 7:59:55 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
So it wasn't Diablo 4 who started this BS?
Nope. I don't know if ArcheAge was the first, but they did that back in 2014. So 10 years at least now.

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DarthAragorn
05/19/24 8:18:25 PM
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it's not penalizing you lmao, it's a single player game. just play it later.

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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 8:19:57 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
it's not penalizing you lmao, it's a single player game. just play it later.

you paid $70 and pre-ordered but you get to play it LATE

how is that not a penalty?
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Giacomo_Hawkins
05/19/24 8:21:16 PM
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I came into this topic thinking there was a new Animal Crossing game, but I still don't know what the AC stands for.

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orcus_snake
05/19/24 8:21:50 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
*3 days early access - more like pay extra to not be penalized

and apparently there is a quest you have to pre-order to get

So you can pre-order a $70 game to get your special dlc but you gotta wait 3 days cause you didn't shell out $39 more dollars

Is waiting 3 days really that bad?

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DarthAragorn
05/19/24 8:22:06 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
you paid $70 and pre-ordered but you get to play it LATE

how is that not a penalty?
because you do not lose out on anything by just playing it 3 days later

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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 8:24:10 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
because you do not lose out on anything by just playing it 3 days later

then why are they charging for it?
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DarthAragorn
05/19/24 8:26:51 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
then why are they charging for it?
because capitalism? but also they're really not charging for early access, they're charging for the edition with the season pass included

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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 8:27:51 PM
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either way if 3 days isn't a big deal why do they offer it?

spoiler
cause it is
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RetuenOfDevsman
05/19/24 8:30:21 PM
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Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
I came into this topic thinking there was a new Animal Crossing game, but I still don't know what the AC stands for.
Ace Combat
I mean, Armored Core
I mean, Assassin's Creed

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NoxObscuras
05/19/24 8:31:51 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
either way if 3 days isn't a big deal why do they offer it?

spoiler
cause it is
It's not a big deal. They're just trying to capitalize on people's FOMO.

Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
I came into this topic thinking there was a new Animal Crossing game, but I still don't know what the AC stands for.
Assassin's Creed

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Giacomo_Hawkins
05/19/24 8:39:58 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
Ace Combat
I mean, Armored Core
I mean, Assassin's Creed

NoxObscuras posted...
Assassin's Creed

Thank you both.

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PowerOats
05/19/24 8:46:25 PM
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I'm surprised game devs haven't made this a common thing

Imagine if GTA6 released in November, but for 20-30 bucks you could play it in October ( aka a week early)

GTA would make even more bank cuz they know people would eat that shit up
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boomgetchopped3
05/19/24 8:48:16 PM
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Im just amazed people can still lay that franchise. Like have you been playing this since the Xbox 360? Still going? Lmao

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WingsOfGood
05/19/24 8:55:45 PM
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PowerOats posted...
I'm surprised game devs haven't made this a common thing

Imagine if GTA6 released in November, but for 20-30 bucks you could play it in October ( aka a week early)

GTA would make even more bank cuz they know people would eat that shit up

Maybe Rockstar isn't anti-consumer?
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ClayGuida
05/19/24 8:56:35 PM
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Just buy the game a year later and get all the shit for $50~.

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Baron_Ox
05/19/24 9:00:18 PM
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even Baldur's Gate 3 had something like that - for $80, you could get the "deluxe" version, where you could play it 3 days earlier than its official release date.

I'm not sure if that's how it was for PC, but it was the case for the PS5.

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YellowSUV
05/19/24 9:15:45 PM
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Baron_Ox posted...
even Baldur's Gate 3 had something like that - for $80, you could get the "deluxe" version, where you could play it 3 days earlier than its official release date.

I'm not sure if that's how it was for PC, but it was the case for the PS5.

The PC version was early access for quite a while. You could play BG3 well before the release date, but the game was updated to the final version on the regular launch and you couldn't use your old save file.

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Baron_Ox
05/19/24 9:18:57 PM
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thanks

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NoxObscuras
05/19/24 9:35:35 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Im just amazed people can still lay that franchise. Like have you been playing this since the Xbox 360? Still going? Lmao
I loved the games at first, but my interest fell off a cliff after the events of AC3 (due to certain spoilers in that game's story). So I played the first 5 games, then skipped the next 5 games and came back to try Odyssey a few years after that released.

I absolutely hated Odyssey's leveling system, given that the last game I played before it was AC3. But the open world was interesting at least, albeit very bloated. I grabbed Valhalla because Vikings sounded cool, but it felt pretty bloated as well.

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Baha05
05/19/24 9:37:01 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
because capitalism? but also they're really not charging for early access, they're charging for the edition with the season pass included
This

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DarthAragorn
05/19/24 9:37:52 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Maybe Rockstar isn't anti-consumer?
LMFAO

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Luigi_and_Tails
05/19/24 9:40:02 PM
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There's another Assassins Creed coming out? Didn't the last one come out less than a year ago? Surely at this point it's just the exact same gameplay with some different voice actors and the colours changed from blue to green or something?

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Baron_Ox
05/19/24 9:44:34 PM
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Luigi_and_Tails posted...
There's another Assassins Creed coming out? Didn't the last one come out less than a year ago? Surely at this point it's just the exact same gameplay with some different voice actors and the colours changed from blue to green or something?
iirc that one, Mirage, started out as a DLC for Valhalla but it got too big so it was sold as its own thing.

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Luigi_and_Tails
05/19/24 10:05:51 PM
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Baron_Ox posted...
iirc that one, Mirage, started out as a DLC for Valhalla but it got too big so it was sold as its own thing.
Huh, I didn't know that, thanks for learning me! I assume Shadows is a "new" game in that sense?

As someone who enjoyed the Far Cry games (since FC3, I'll admit), I'm not super convinced with this model of game creation. Doesn't feel right spending 50-60 for what's effectively just a new map, some new voice actors, and some minor gameplay tweaks. Yes, I know, this stuff costs money and 3D modelling isn't cheap, but maybe I'm an outlier. I'd rather buy one game full price every couple of years, with a step change each time, because otherwise I'll just wait a few years until the games are about a tenner and buy them in a sale.

I'm showing my age here but I look at the difference between Unreal Tournament 1999 and 2003 (I know it was basically a demo for 2004, but bear with me) - that's 4 years between releases and it was a definite change between the two. Same for UT3, released in 2007 - so 3 years there. Each release was noticeably different from each other, keeping the core gameplay the same but also introducing their own spin on things.

Meanwhile, and I'll pick on Far Cry here, since FC3 it's been two years since each release. Strip away the graphics and the gameplay's almost identical. It was fun at first, being able to dive into a new game knowing 90% of how the gameplay works, but when you're playing Far Cry 6, sniping away at outpost #71, you realise it's the same old shit.

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ClayGuida
05/19/24 10:36:39 PM
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Mirage had a character introduced in Valhalla at most it's a spinoff. I haven't fully played it, so idk yet, I'm a fan of the large games more than the small now.

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ClayGuida
05/19/24 10:38:09 PM
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Luigi_and_Tails posted...
Meanwhile, and I'll pick on Far Cry here, since FC3 it's been two years since each release. Strip away the graphics and the gameplay's almost identical. It was fun at first, being able to dive into a new game knowing 90% of how the gameplay works, but when you're playing Far Cry 6, sniping away at outpost #71, you realise it's the same old shit.
I mean every soulslike is basically the same exact formula. People eat that shit up.

Hell, there's not a lot of difference between GTA 3 and GTA 5. There's a bigger jump from GTA 2 to 3 than 3 to 5 even.

I mean thinking back, I can't think of many big changes to monster franchises. SMW to SM64 was a huge leap, but then SM64 to Odyssey, not so much. LTTP to Ocarina was a huge jump, but then Zelda has mostly been similar to Ocarina since then, not counting the random handheld games. Stuff like MGS1 wasn't all that different all the way to 4.

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Baha05
05/19/24 10:38:31 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
I mean every soulslike is basically the same exact formula. People eat that shit up.
That can be summed up as gaming as a whole.

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TendoDRM
05/20/24 1:50:58 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
What...but you ... won't get the extra quest and will have to wait 3 days to play.

Thought you were a big AC fan.

Are you under the impression someone can only be a fan of they buy a game at launch? What a weird opinion.

I'll be waiting way more than 3 days most likely, since I'll probably wait for a sale like I do with most games. It's pretty foolish to buy games at launch, especially Ubisoft games.


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ViewtifulGrave
05/20/24 7:52:45 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Im just amazed people can still lay that franchise. Like have you been playing this since the Xbox 360? Still going? Lmao
What the problem???

People have been playing Mario and Zelda since the mid 80s

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_Valigarmanda_
05/20/24 8:04:24 AM
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Hey
Wait
You get the new AC late

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