Palestina War XVI - The Big Attack on Rafah

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divot1338 05/20/24 6:20:00 PM #51:	1337toothbrush posted... biden is perhaps the most pro-israel politician and has been his entire career. It's not netanyahu specifically, it's whatever israel wants to do and what israel wants to do is up to whatever parties are currently in power there. biden topping the bribery recipient list might play a role: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5b543f80.png As if that number is anything but a function of time in office. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:980480915] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>biden is perhaps the most pro-israel politician and has been his entire career. It's not netanyahu specifically, it's whatever israel wants to do and what israel wants to do is up to whatever parties are currently in power there. biden topping the bribery recipient list might play a role: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=Shttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5b543f80.png</quote>As if that number is anything but a function of time in office. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
conduit 05/20/24 6:20:04 PM #52:	Isn't Joe Biden the one that has spent his whole political career famously saying "If Israel didn't exist, we'd have to create an Israel!" A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with. Lots of people think Israel controls America or has somehow made America it's b***. But the US can exist without Israel. Israel cannot exist without the US. I think that tells you who wears the trousers ('pants' for our American friends) in this relationship, when Israel is dependent on 70% of its arms from the US and relies on the US to save it from Iran. Israel needs the US more than the US needs Israel. --- ~we are a part of the process, not instigators of its progress~* <cite>conduit posted [p:980480919] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Isn't Joe Biden the one that has spent his whole political career famously saying "If Israel didn't exist, we'd have to create an Israel!"A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with. Lots of people think Israel controls America or has somehow made America it's b****. But the US can exist without Israel. Israel cannot exist without the US. I think that tells you who wears the trousers ('pants' for our American friends) in this relationship, when Israel is dependent on 70% of its arms from the US and relies on the US to save it from Iran. Israel needs the US more than the US needs Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
conduit 05/20/24 6:23:46 PM #53:	Biden certainly has a point about one thing though, no one can say there is any equivalence between Israel and Hamas. Maybe if Hamas had nuclear weapons, and one of the most technologically advanced militaries in the world, the backing of the worlds biggest superpower and an entire state apparatus at its disposal, then maybe there'd be some equivalence. But pointing out the lack of equivalence between a highly militarised state and a non-state terrorist group has got to be the most pointless thing I've ever heard. --- ~we are a part of the process, not instigators of its progress~ <cite>conduit posted [p:980480969] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Biden certainly has a point about one thing though, no one can say there is any equivalence between Israel and Hamas. Maybe if Hamas had nuclear weapons, and one of the most technologically advanced militaries in the world, the backing of the worlds biggest superpower and an entire state apparatus at its disposal, then maybe there'd be some equivalence. But pointing out the lack of equivalence between a highly militarised state and a non-state terrorist group has got to be the most pointless thing I've ever heard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 05/20/24 6:29:22 PM #54:	Joe says a genocide is not happening. . . https://www.barrons.com/news/biden-says-israel-s-gaza-offensive-is-not-genocide-af22e1df --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:980481046] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Joe says a genocide is not happening. . . https://www.barrons.com/news/biden-says-israel-s-gaza-offensive-is-not-genocide-af22e1df </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 05/20/24 6:37:11 PM #55:	Cheater87 posted... Joe says a genocide is not happening. . . https://www.barrons.com/news/biden-says-israel-s-gaza-offensive-is-not-genocide-af22e1df Since when did the US government ever accuse an ally of genocide? They were standing by when Latin American juntas were murdering leftists and only gave an half-assed apology after the Cold War ended. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980481154] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted... </cite><quote>Joe says a genocide is not happening. . . https://www.barrons.com/news/biden-says-israel-s-gaza-offensive-is-not-genocide-af22e1df</quote>Since when did the US government ever accuse an ally of genocide? They were standing by when Latin American juntas were murdering leftists and only gave an half-assed apology after the Cold War ended. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 05/20/24 6:40:16 PM #56:	conduit posted... Isn't Joe Biden the one that has spent his whole political career famously saying "If Israel didn't exist, we'd have to create an Israel!" A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with. Lots of people think Israel controls America or has somehow made America it's b***. But the US can exist without Israel. Israel cannot exist without the US. I think that tells you who wears the trousers ('pants' for our American friends) in this relationship, when Israel is dependent on 70% of its arms from the US and relies on the US to save it from Iran. Israel needs the US more than the US needs Israel. Israel is a settler-colonial outpost of the west. The US projects power in the Middle East through it. Indeed, Israel is ultimately a client state dependent upon the west for continued military funding and international backing. It is true that Israel has over the decades increasingly gone off the rails, but it's in a "big brother-little brother" way. Big bro (the US) may occasionally chide lil bro (Israel) in private, but big bro never stops supporting lil bro and never stops defending lil bro when anyone criticizes him. Even this part is questionable, we're told through deliberate White House leaks* that Biden and others occasionally chide Netenyahu in private but there isn't a ton of verification otherwise. --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:980481204] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>conduit posted... </cite><quote>Isn't Joe Biden the one that has spent his whole political career famously saying "If Israel didn't exist, we'd have to create an Israel!"A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with. Lots of people think Israel controls America or has somehow made America it's b***. But the US can exist without Israel. Israel cannot exist without the US. I think that tells you who wears the trousers ('pants' for our American friends) in this relationship, when Israel is dependent on 70% of its arms from the US and relies on the US to save it from Iran. Israel needs the US more than the US needs Israel.</quote>Israel is a settler-colonial outpost of the west. The US projects power in the Middle East through it. Indeed, Israel is ultimately a client state dependent upon the west for continued military funding and international backing. It is true that Israel has over the decades increasingly gone off the rails, but it's in a "big brother-little brother" way. Big bro (the US) may occasionally chide lil bro (Israel) in private, but big bro never stops supporting lil bro and never stops defending lil bro when anyone criticizes him.*Even this part is questionable, we're told through deliberate White House leaks that Biden and others occasionally chide Netenyahu in private but there isn't a ton of verification otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
conduit 05/20/24 6:50:02 PM #57:	Exactly. Israel is an extension of US power, not the other way around, and is a tool for enforcing US policy in the region. Even John Mearsheimer seems to have trouble recognising that the US could compel Israel to seek peace if it actually wanted to, by simply cutting off arms shipments, Israel would be screwed, instead he seems to think Biden is working tirelessly to come up with some solution. The fact that the US avoids using it's leverage over Israel (when it is literally the only one that has any) is a political choice. At this point what is going to compel the US to put its attack dog back on it's leash? The US clearly has as much concern for international law as Israel does. --- ~we are a part of the process, not instigators of its progress~ <cite>conduit posted [p:980481350] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Exactly. Israel is an extension of US power, not the other way around, and is a tool for enforcing US policy in the region. Even John Mearsheimer seems to have trouble recognising that the US could compel Israel to seek peace if it actually wanted to, by simply cutting off arms shipments, Israel would be screwed, instead he seems to think Biden is working tirelessly to come up with some solution. The fact that the US avoids using it's leverage over Israel (when it is literally the only one that has any) is a political choice. At this point what is going to compel the US to put its attack dog back on it's leash? The US clearly has as much concern for international law as Israel does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/20/24 6:51:09 PM #58:	America isn't on the right side of history as much as people want to believe. We usually do horrible things and then later say we are sorry decades later. But then do a different horrible thing. Someday we will say we are sorry for being allied to Israel during a genocide <cite>Zikten posted [p:980481368] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>America isn't on the right side of history as much as people want to believe. We usually do horrible things and then later say we are sorry decades later. But then do a different horrible thing. Someday we will say we are sorry for being allied to Israel during a genocide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ya_dun_goofed 05/20/24 6:53:38 PM #59:	conduit posted... A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with. Israel has on more than one occasion killed US citizens, its like a rogue military base that does whatever the fuck it wants. --- "the ABSOLUTE LAST THING ANY adc needs right now is a nerf." - Crows <cite>Ya_dun_goofed posted [p:980481411] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>conduit posted... </cite><quote>A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with.</quote>Israel has on more than one occasion killed US citizens, its like a rogue military base that does whatever the fuck it wants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 05/20/24 6:58:08 PM #60:	Ya_dun_goofed posted... Israel has on more than one occasion killed US citizens, it's like a rogue military base that does whatever the fuck it wants. Don't forget the attack on the USS Liberty, both governments covered it up for decades. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:980481495] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote> Ya_dun_goofed posted... Israel has on more than one occasion killed US citizens, it's like a rogue military base that does whatever the fuck it wants.Don't forget the attack on the USS Liberty, both governments covered it up for decades. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 05/20/24 7:21:56 PM #61:	conduit posted... A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with. The funny thing is that Israel has universal healthcare courtesy of US taxpayers. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980481834] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>conduit posted... </cite><quote>A user on Reddit earlier pretty much described Israel as a US military base masquerading as a country, which I more or less agree with.</quote>The funny thing is that Israel has universal healthcare courtesy of US taxpayers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/20/24 8:57:19 PM #62:	SHRlKE posted... From a purely political point of view I dont get Biden. He has nothing to lose with funding this genocide. Since Trump is so bad. He know even questioning him is out of the question for many. I mean at this point I am not sure of that because this is making him come off as an uncaring asshole. At least he is better for Americans . --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980483194] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>SHRlKE posted... </cite><quote>From a purely political point of view I dont get Biden.</quote>He has nothing to lose with funding this genocide. Since Trump is so bad. He know even questioning him is out of the question for many. <quote>I mean at this point I am not sure of that because this is making him come off as an uncaring asshole.</quote>At least he is better for Americans . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 05/20/24 9:04:48 PM #63:	cjsdowg posted... He has nothing to lose with funding this genocide. Except votes. cjsdowg posted... Since Trump is so bad. He know even questioning him is out of the question for many. Maybe for people who argue politics on the internet, but regular people aren't "doing the calculation" on who is the less shitty of the two. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:980483286] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>He has nothing to lose with funding this genocide.</quote>Except votes.cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Since Trump is so bad. He know even questioning him is out of the question for many.</quote>Maybe for people who argue politics on the internet, but regular people aren't "doing the calculation" on who is the less shitty of the two. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/20/24 9:07:54 PM #64:	1337toothbrush posted... Maybe for people who argue politics on the internet, but regular people aren't "doing the calculation" on who is the less shitty of the two. Regular people don't know shit about what is going on. And they think Israel is this great place. Then you have the people who now how bad that they are. But think G-d told them to support Israel's genocide. People on the internet and young people are like the only people who care. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980483329] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Maybe for people who argue politics on the internet, but regular people aren't "doing the calculation" on who is the less shitty of the two.</quote>Regular people don't know shit about what is going on. And they think Israel is this great place. Then you have the people who now how bad that they are. But think G-d told them to support Israel's genocide. People on the internet and young people are like the only people who care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/20/24 9:08:40 PM #65:	Ya_dun_goofed posted... Israel has on more than one occasion killed US citizens, its like a rogue military base that does whatever the fuck it wants. They have killed US military even. In the late 60s they attacked a US Navy ship and killed some of the crew <cite>Zikten posted [p:980483344] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Ya_dun_goofed posted... </cite><quote>Israel has on more than one occasion killed US citizens, its like a rogue military base that does whatever the fuck it wants.</quote>They have killed US military even. In the late 60s they attacked a US Navy ship and killed some of the crew</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 05/20/24 9:19:25 PM #66:	cjsdowg posted... Regular people don't know shit about what is going on. And they think Israel is this great place. Then you have the people who now how bad that they are. But think G-d told them to support Israel's genocide. People on the internet and young people are like the only people who care. and quite a few voters in the key state of Michigan. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:980483514] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Regular people don't know shit about what is going on. And they think Israel is this great place. Then you have the people who now how bad that they are. But think G-d told them to support Israel's genocide. People on the internet and young people are like the only people who care.</quote>and quite a few voters in the key state of Michigan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 05/20/24 9:32:18 PM #67:	Zikten posted... They have killed US military even. In the late 60s they attacked a US Navy ship and killed some of the crew And to think the US escalated the war with Vietnam over false claims of US ships being attacked. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980483701] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>They have killed US military even. In the late 60s they attacked a US Navy ship and killed some of the crew</quote>And to think the US escalated the war with Vietnam over false claims of US ships being attacked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/20/24 9:51:56 PM #68:	Fenriswolf posted... And to think the US escalated the war with Vietnam over false claims of US ships being attacked. And the Spanish American war. Blowing up one our ships is alway war. Unless Israel does it. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980483997] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Fenriswolf posted... </cite><quote>And to think the US escalated the war with Vietnam over false claims of US ships being attacked.</quote>And the Spanish American war. Blowing up one our ships is alway war. Unless Israel does it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hyena_Of_Ice 05/20/24 10:14:14 PM #69:	SHRlKE posted... From a purely political point of view I dont get Biden. He seems to be pissing off both sides over this. Regardless of what your own views and beliefs are on the current goings on hes really shit the bed on this one. From a Brit point of view anyway and I dont think hes alone. Our politicians are exactly the same. Hedging their bets and upsetting everyone. Maybe Im being unfair. I know I tend to criticise what Hamas has done and also at the same time what Netanyahu has done as well and Ive been accused a rampant genocide enabler and also a fervent antisemite for the same posts previously. Maybe thats the issue with the whole situation. While we can argue power dynamics in play and I absolutely accept that is a fair point and a big issue, this isnt a simple situation. Its far more complicated than that and ultimately I feel the only position anyone should ultimately take is one that leads to a decrease of innocent civilians dying, both Israeli and Palestinians. And on that front Biden and most of the western world have failed. It's simple; Biden is from the warmongering Boomer/Silent Generation Neocon/Neolib generation. Also, this is par for the course with the United States's history of foreign military meddling (okay not quite, Biden is actually being MORE humanitarian than the US usually is towards foreign victims of its proxy wars) The military industrial complex and corporate favors always play a role as well (oil, Haliburton, Israeli cybersecurity companies, etc) Biden may be more progressive than his predecessors, but he is still a corporate Democrat. Kradek posted... I just don't get why he won't allow himself to be on the right side of the issue. Somewhere deep down he must know how fucked up this and how fucked up he sounds. I thought he was getting better and it sounds like he's dragging himself backwards because an international court wants to rightfully hold genocidal fascist sociopaths responsible for their war crimes. Lobbyists, corporate interests, rich donors, and the military industrial complex just to name a few. Not much war profiteering to be had by siding with Palestine. <cite>Hyena_Of_Ice posted [p:980484368] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>SHRlKE posted... </cite><quote>From a purely political point of view I dont get Biden. He seems to be pissing off both sides over this. Regardless of what your own views and beliefs are on the current goings on hes really shit the bed on this one. From a Brit point of view anyway and I dont think hes alone. Our politicians are exactly the same. Hedging their bets and upsetting everyone. Maybe Im being unfair. I know I tend to criticise what Hamas has done and also at the same time what Netanyahu has done as well and Ive been accused a rampant genocide enabler and also a fervent antisemite for the same posts previously. Maybe thats the issue with the whole situation. While we can argue power dynamics in play and I absolutely accept that is a fair point and a big issue, this isnt a simple situation. Its far more complicated than that and ultimately I feel the only position anyone should ultimately take is one that leads to a decrease of innocent civilians dying, both Israeli and Palestinians. And on that front Biden and most of the western world have failed.</quote>It's simple; Biden is from the warmongering Boomer/Silent Generation Neocon/Neolib generation. Also, this is par for the course with the United States's history of foreign military meddling (okay not quite, Biden is actually being MORE humanitarian than the US usually is towards foreign victims of its proxy wars)The military industrial complex and corporate favors always play a role as well (oil, Haliburton, Israeli cybersecurity companies, etc) Biden may be more progressive than his predecessors, but he is still a corporate Democrat.Kradek posted... </cite><quote>I just don't get why he won't allow himself to be on the right side of the issue. Somewhere deep down he must know how fucked up this and how fucked up he sounds. I thought he was getting better and it sounds like he's dragging himself backwards because an international court wants to rightfully hold genocidal fascist sociopaths responsible for their war crimes.</quote>Lobbyists, corporate interests, rich donors, and the military industrial complex just to name a few. Not much war profiteering to be had by siding with Palestine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 05/21/24 1:42:45 AM #70:	Remember that American harbor they would build? It was done in Fridays, and 569 ton have been shipped into Gaza from it since then. They expect 150 aid trucks daily from it. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:980486542] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Remember that American harbor they would build?It was done in Fridays, and 569 ton have been shipped into Gaza from it since then.They expect 150 aid trucks daily from it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 05/21/24 1:51:23 AM #71:	Foppe posted... Remember that American harbor they would build? It was done in Fridays, and 569 ton have been shipped into Gaza from it since then. They expect 150 aid trucks daily from it. I have many criticisms of Biden over this whole situation but this is one of the few actions I wont criticise him for. Its just a shame it comes to this. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:980486610] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Remember that American harbor they would build?It was done in Fridays, and 569 ton have been shipped into Gaza from it since then.They expect 150 aid trucks daily from it.</quote>I have many criticisms of Biden over this whole situation but this is one of the few actions I wont criticise him for. Its just a shame it comes to this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 05/21/24 1:51:30 AM #72:	The requested ICC warrants would be for Netanyahu Gallant Sinwar Al-Masri Haniyeh My concern is that Haniyeh is participating in peace talks. Perhaps he would be paroled to continue them? --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:980486613] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>The requested ICC warrants would be forNetanyahuGallantSinwarAl-MasriHaniyehMy concern is that Haniyeh is participating in peace talks. Perhaps he would be paroled to continue them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimson_Corsair 05/21/24 2:33:41 AM #73:	CobraGT posted... My concern is that Haniyeh is participating in peace talks. Perhaps he would be paroled to continue them? It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that. Allow me to remind you that little gems like this are contained in those "peace talks" - Hamas freeing 33 Israeli hostages, *alive or dead*, in return for Israel releasing 30 children and women for each released Israeli hostage, based on lists provided by Hamas according to the earliest date of detention. --- My head's not torn off, my sunglasses aren't broken. Amen, hallelujah, peanut butter. <cite>Crimson_Corsair posted [p:980486841] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>CobraGT posted... </cite><quote>My concern is that Haniyeh is participating in peace talks. Perhaps he would be paroled to continue them?</quote>It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that. Allow me to remind you that little gems like this are contained in those "peace talks"- Hamas freeing 33 Israeli hostages, alive or dead, in return for Israel releasing 30 children and women for each released Israeli hostage, based on lists provided by Hamas according to the earliest date of detention. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 05/21/24 2:45:38 AM #74:	Medical workers in Israel have told the BBC that Palestinian detainees from Gaza are routinely kept shackled to hospital beds, blindfolded, sometimes naked, and forced to wear nappies a practice one medic said amounted to torture. A whistle-blower detailed how procedures in one military hospital were routinely carried out without painkillers, causing an unacceptable amount of pain to detainees. Another whistle-blower said painkillers were used selectively and in a very limited way during an invasive medical procedure on a Gazan detainee in a public hospital. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgygdr7vezo --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:980486900] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Medical workers in Israel have told the BBC that Palestinian detainees from Gaza are routinely kept shackled to hospital beds, blindfolded, sometimes naked, and forced to wear nappies a practice one medic said amounted to torture.A whistle-blower detailed how procedures in one military hospital were routinely carried out without painkillers, causing an unacceptable amount of pain to detainees.Another whistle-blower said painkillers were used selectively and in a very limited way during an invasive medical procedure on a Gazan detainee in a public hospital.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgygdr7vezo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 05/21/24 2:48:06 AM #75:	Crimson_Corsair posted... It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that. You think Bibi is having good faith? This is the same man who deliberately funneled money to Hamas to keep the Palestinians divided. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980486911] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Crimson_Corsair posted... </cite><quote>It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that.</quote>You think Bibi is having good faith? This is the same man who deliberately funneled money to Hamas to keep the Palestinians divided. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 05/21/24 2:57:22 AM #76:	Crimson_Corsair posted... It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that. Allow me to remind you that little gems like this are contained in those "peace talks" - Hamas freeing 33 Israeli hostages, *alive or dead*, in return for Israel releasing 30 children and women for each released Israeli hostage, based on lists provided by Hamas according to the earliest date of detention. Above is expletive irrelevant! Wrong topic maybe? Pretty sure you cannot have peace talks with Hamas without a Hamas leader --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:980486962] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Crimson_Corsair posted... </cite><quote>It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that. Allow me to remind you that little gems like this are contained in those "peace talks"- Hamas freeing 33 Israeli hostages, alive or dead, in return for Israel releasing 30 children and women for each released Israeli hostage, based on lists provided by Hamas according to the earliest date of detention.</quote>Above is expletive irrelevant! Wrong topic maybe? Pretty sure you cannot have peace talks with Hamas without a Hamas leader </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 05/21/24 3:01:49 AM #77:	Fenriswolf posted... You think Bibi is having good faith? This is the same man who deliberately funneled money to Hamas to keep the Palestinians divided. Why is it the case a lot of the time anyone criticises Hamas the response is to talk about Netanyahu. They arent mutually exclusive. Its possible for both to be open to heavy criticism. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:980486981] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Fenriswolf posted... </cite><quote>You think Bibi is having good faith? This is the same man who deliberately funneled money to Hamas to keep the Palestinians divided.</quote>Why is it the case a lot of the time anyone criticises Hamas the response is to talk about Netanyahu. They arent mutually exclusive. Its possible for both to be open to heavy criticism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 05/21/24 3:41:51 AM #78:	SHRlKE posted... Why is it the case a lot of the time anyone criticises Hamas the response is to talk about Netanyahu. They arent mutually exclusive. Its possible for both to be open to heavy criticism. I think it's mostly because Bibi is responsible for the existence of hamas in Palestine. Like, in a long, long causal chain of events that begins with his own party's statement that they can guarantee they will stay in power is by installing hamas, Netanyahu is responsible for October 7. First domino, et al. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:980487156] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>SHRlKE posted... </cite><quote>Why is it the case a lot of the time anyone criticises Hamas the response is to talk about Netanyahu. They arent mutually exclusive. Its possible for both to be open to heavy criticism.</quote>I think it's mostly because Bibi is responsible for the existence of hamas in Palestine.Like, in a long, long causal chain of events that begins with his own party's statement that they can guarantee they will stay in power is by installing hamas, Netanyahu is responsible for October 7. First domino, et al. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 05/21/24 4:34:44 AM #79:	France and Belgium support ICC request for arrest warrants of Israel and Hamas leaders https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-hamas-latest-05-21-2024-2932f9c3878af8aee603bcc759a57cc6 --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:980487367] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>France and Belgium support ICC request for arrest warrants of Israel and Hamas leadershttps://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-hamas-latest-05-21-2024-2932f9c3878af8aee603bcc759a57cc6 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 05/21/24 4:38:59 AM #80:	Foppe posted... Remember that American harbor they would build? It was done in Fridays, and 569 ton have been shipped into Gaza from it since then. They expect 150 aid trucks daily from it. I remember people in here talking a lot of shit about it. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:980487387] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Remember that American harbor they would build?It was done in Fridays, and 569 ton have been shipped into Gaza from it since then.They expect 150 aid trucks daily from it.</quote>I remember people in here talking a lot of shit about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 05/21/24 6:12:32 AM #81:	DnDer posted... I think it's mostly because Bibi is responsible for the existence of hamas in Palestine. Like, in a long, long causal chain of events that begins with his own party's statement that they can guarantee they will stay in power is by installing hamas, Netanyahu is responsible for October 7. First domino, et al. yeah but how far do you want to go back. I dont think its helpful. We need to focus on the future and bringing peace to the area. That means removing Hamas and Bibi from power imo. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:980487752] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>I think it's mostly because Bibi is responsible for the existence of hamas in Palestine.Like, in a long, long causal chain of events that begins with his own party's statement that they can guarantee they will stay in power is by installing hamas, Netanyahu is responsible for October 7. First domino, et al.</quote>yeah but how far do you want to go back. I dont think its helpful. We need to focus on the future and bringing peace to the area. That means removing Hamas and Bibi from power imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 05/21/24 6:34:35 AM #82:	Israel did an anti-terrorist raid against Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the West Bank. A young Palestinian kid on a bike is supposed to have been shot by mistake, and a 50 years old doctor killed by a bullet. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:980487859] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Israel did an anti-terrorist raid against Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the West Bank.A young Palestinian kid on a bike is supposed to have been shot by mistake, and a 50 years old doctor killed by a bullet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/21/24 6:42:15 AM #83:	Crimson_Corsair posted... It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that. Allow me to remind you that little gems like this are contained in those "peace talks" - Hamas freeing 33 Israeli hostages, *alive or dead*, in return for Israel releasing 30 children and women for each released Israeli hostage, based on lists provided by Hamas according to the earliest date of detention. So the ppl that Israeli have locked up are not hostages in your eyes. Also which country blow up aid workers just a month ago? --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980487886] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Crimson_Corsair posted... </cite><quote>It is fucking wild to me that people continue to hold water for Hamas. Do you honestly believe the political leader of fucking Hamas is engaging in good faith peace talks? You can't possibly think that. Allow me to remind you that little gems like this are contained in those "peace talks"- Hamas freeing 33 Israeli hostages, alive or dead, in return for Israel releasing 30 children and women for each released Israeli hostage, based on lists provided by Hamas according to the earliest date of detention.</quote>So the ppl that Israeli have locked up are not hostages in your eyes. Also which country blow up aid workers just a month ago? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27 05/21/24 7:04:23 AM #84:	This is a case of both sides are bad. Hamas for the constant attacks on Israel and how they handling the ceasefire talks ( 1:30 ratio of hostage exchange tells me they are ok with everyone dying to make Israel look worse than it already does). Israel leadership and IDF for going the genocide route and effecting aid from getting into Palestine. both have targeted civilians, so ICC placing warrants for both is appropriate, but Israel does need to be told to step down, but it will likely take another world leader going boots on the ground to stop it. --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. <cite>texanfan27 posted [p:980487986] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>This is a case of both sides are bad. Hamas for the constant attacks on Israel and how they handling the ceasefire talks ( 1:30 ratio of hostage exchange tells me they are ok with everyone dying to make Israel look worse than it already does). Israel leadership and IDF for going the genocide route and effecting aid from getting into Palestine. both have targeted civilians, so ICC placing warrants for both is appropriate, but Israel does need to be told to step down, but it will likely take another world leader going boots on the ground to stop it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 05/21/24 7:05:07 AM #85:	conduit posted... Lots of people think Israel controls America or has somehow made America it's b**. But the US can exist without Israel. Israel cannot exist without the US. I think that tells you who wears the trousers ('pants' for our American friends) in this relationship, when Israel is dependent on 70% of its arms from the US and relies on the US to save it from Iran. Israel needs the US more than the US needs Israel. As a country we dont need them but the small pool of elites sympathetic towards and loyal to Isreal though in our country is another story. And by elites I mean the big shadowy ones within the highest tiers of our government, institutions and businesses. That and them just being an arm of ours wouldnt have necessitated everything thats happened up till now. Both there and domestically with them cracking down on free speech from arresting and attacking peaceful protestors to passing laws that support Israel. None of these actions would make a lick of sense if they were just a tool of ours. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:980487989] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>conduit posted... </cite><quote>Lots of people think Israel controls America or has somehow made America it's b**. But the US can exist without Israel. Israel cannot exist without the US. I think that tells you who wears the trousers ('pants' for our American friends) in this relationship, when Israel is dependent on 70% of its arms from the US and relies on the US to save it from Iran. Israel needs the US more than the US needs Israel.</quote>As a country we dont need them but the small pool of elites sympathetic towards and loyal to Isreal though in our country is another story. And by elites I mean the big shadowy ones within the highest tiers of our government, institutions and businesses.That and them just being an arm of ours wouldnt have necessitated everything thats happened up till now. Both there and domestically with them cracking down on free speech from arresting and attacking peaceful protestors to passing laws that support Israel. None of these actions would make a lick of sense if they were just a tool of ours. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 05/21/24 7:07:52 AM #86:	Foppe posted... Israel did an anti-terrorist raid against Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the West Bank. A young Palestinian kid on a bike is supposed to have been shot by mistake, and a 50 years old doctor killed by a bullet. Dang, that's a lot of buzzwords just to say you killed a kid and a middle aged man. <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:980487999] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Israel did an anti-terrorist raid against Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the West Bank.A young Palestinian kid on a bike is supposed to have been shot by mistake, and a 50 years old doctor killed by a bullet.</quote>Dang, that's a lot of buzzwords just to say you killed a kid and a middle aged man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 05/21/24 7:56:36 AM #87:	Hornezz posted... France and Belgium support ICC request for arrest warrants of Israel and Hamas leaders https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-hamas-latest-05-21-2024-2932f9c3878af8aee603bcc759a57cc6 France supporting it is pretty interesting, especially considering how Macron was talking only half a year ago. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:980488281] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>France and Belgium support ICC request for arrest warrants of Israel and Hamas leadershttps://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-hamas-latest-05-21-2024-2932f9c3878af8aee603bcc759a57cc6</quote>France supporting it is pretty interesting, especially considering how Macron was talking only half a year ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
conduit 05/21/24 8:19:07 AM #88:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fd82dfd3.jpg SHRlKE posted... yeah but how far do you want to go back. I dont think its helpful. We need to focus on the future and bringing peace to the area. That means removing Hamas and Bibi from power imo. So when someone tells you that Israel deliberately brought Hamas to power in Gaza your response is to throw causality out the window and say forget about the past "focus on the future". You absolutely have to go back and analyse the historical context to have any understanding of what's going on, and therefore come up with a solution. So ok, lets talk about the future. How do you defeat a political ideology? Is it by mass killing tens of thousands of civilians and dumping thousands of bodies into mass graves? Is it by systematically destroying civilian infrastructure to make Gaza unliveable? Is it by cutting off all food and water and fuel to starve millions of people? Terrorism is like a virus. You cannot defeat a virus by attacking the host. Israel knows full well it cannot eliminate Hamas with what its doing (see the Shin Bet report). Therefore defeating Hamas is not a realistic military objective, even Israel's own military leaders know this. You don't defeat Hamas by giving Hamas more reasons to exist. You have to create conditions on the ground which are not conducive to the political ideology of violence. But Israel has no interest in doing this and actively wants to portray Palestinians as inherently violent in order to provide a pretext for continued military occupation. They want to scatter the Palestinians in the West Bank into Jordan, and try to push Palestinians in Gaza into Egypt. Ethnically cleansing Gaza is the goal here so that they can finish consolidating Greater Israel. The US has been trying to do deals with Egypt on behalf of Israel regarding the resettlement of Palestinians in Gaza to the Egyptian Sinai since 2007. --- ~we are a part of the process, not instigators of its progress~ <cite>conduit posted [p:980488428] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fd82dfd3.jpgSHRlKE posted... </cite><quote>yeah but how far do you want to go back. I dont think its helpful. We need to focus on the future and bringing peace to the area. That means removing Hamas and Bibi from power imo.</quote>So when someone tells you that Israel deliberately brought Hamas to power in Gaza your response is to throw causality out the window and say forget about the past "focus on the future". You absolutely have to go back and analyse the historical context to have any understanding of what's going on, and therefore come up with a solution.So ok, lets talk about the future. How do you defeat a political ideology? Is it by mass killing tens of thousands of civilians and dumping thousands of bodies into mass graves? Is it by systematically destroying civilian infrastructure to make Gaza unliveable? Is it by cutting off all food and water and fuel to starve millions of people?Terrorism is like a virus. You cannot defeat a virus by attacking the host. Israel knows full well it cannot eliminate Hamas with what its doing (see the Shin Bet report). Therefore defeating Hamas is not a realistic military objective, even Israel's own military leaders know this. You don't defeat Hamas by giving Hamas more reasons to exist. You have to create conditions on the ground which are not conducive to the political ideology of violence. But Israel has no interest in doing this and actively wants to portray Palestinians as inherently violent in order to provide a pretext for continued military occupation. They want to scatter the Palestinians in the West Bank into Jordan, and try to push Palestinians in Gaza into Egypt. Ethnically cleansing Gaza is the goal here so that they can finish consolidating Greater Israel. The US has been trying to do deals with Egypt on behalf of Israel regarding the resettlement of Palestinians in Gaza to the Egyptian Sinai since 2007. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hyena_Of_Ice 05/21/24 8:41:22 AM #89:	Fenriswolf posted... You think Bibi is having good faith? This is the same man who deliberately funneled money to Hamas to keep the Palestinians divided. You forgot about the part where he left the border with Gaza porous because he had so much West Bank tunnelvision. The Oct 7 massacre is on his hands in more ways than one. <cite>Hyena_Of_Ice posted [p:980488626] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Fenriswolf posted... </cite><quote>You think Bibi is having good faith? This is the same man who deliberately funneled money to Hamas to keep the Palestinians divided.</quote>You forgot about the part where he left the border with Gaza porous because he had so much West Bank tunnelvision. The Oct 7 massacre is on his hands in more ways than one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 05/21/24 8:53:37 AM #90:	conduit posted... You don't defeat Hamas by giving Hamas more reasons to exist. You have to create conditions on the ground which are not conducive to the political ideology of violence. I agree 100% and have said this exact same thing in the past. I don't mean to dismiss the past by the way. If it came across that way I genuinely apologize. I just feel like the focus should be on moving forwards. Too many posts are spent arguing the past. And while I don't disagree we should learn from the past I wish more people would spend time trying to come up with solutions rather than win an e-argument. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:980488724] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>conduit posted... </cite><quote>You don't defeat Hamas by giving Hamas more reasons to exist. You have to create conditions on the ground which are not conducive to the political ideology of violence.</quote>I agree 100% and have said this exact same thing in the past. I don't mean to dismiss the past by the way. If it came across that way I genuinely apologize. I just feel like the focus should be on moving forwards. Too many posts are spent arguing the past. And while I don't disagree we should learn from the past I wish more people would spend time trying to come up with solutions rather than win an e-argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zoks 05/21/24 10:05:43 AM #91:	https://apnews.com/article/live-transmission-israel-associated-press-57e8f662907334ba3599156276381190 They don't want any critical news coming out against them. --- Who Dat? https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/Zoks-810047183 <cite>Zoks posted [p:980489491] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>https://apnews.com/article/live-transmission-israel-associated-press-57e8f662907334ba3599156276381190They don't want any critical news coming out against them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 05/21/24 10:09:34 AM #92:	https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/1790868724464947558 <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:980489551] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/1790868724464947558</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 05/21/24 10:14:39 AM #93:	Zoks posted... https://apnews.com/article/live-transmission-israel-associated-press-57e8f662907334ba3599156276381190 They don't want any critical news coming out against them. Trying to connect the AP to Al-Jazeera is hilarious. That way of thinking means any channel, including any of Israel's own channels, is connected to Al-Jazeera. All Al-Jazeera has to do is show any footage from that channel and bam, they are one and the same lol. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:980489619] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Zoks posted... </cite><quote>https://apnews.com/article/live-transmission-israel-associated-press-57e8f662907334ba3599156276381190They don't want any critical news coming out against them.</quote>Trying to connect the AP to Al-Jazeera is hilarious. That way of thinking means any channel, including any of Israel's own channels, is connected to Al-Jazeera. All Al-Jazeera has to do is show any footage from that channel and bam, they are one and the same lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountCorvinus 05/21/24 11:27:53 AM #94:	This guy sucks. https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782 --- "Why would I listen to your lies... when the journey to the truth... is so much sweeter?" (THEY/THEM) <cite>CountCorvinus posted [p:980490720] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>This guy sucks.https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 05/21/24 1:10:50 PM #95:	Zoks posted... https://apnews.com/article/live-transmission-israel-associated-press-57e8f662907334ba3599156276381190 They don't want any critical news coming out against them. Targeting Al Jazeera? Okay, I guess. There's some controversy with them in the Middle East anyway. The Associated Press (AP)? No excuses. None. CountCorvinus posted... This guy sucks. https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782 Welp. There it is. Biden says there is no genocide. The cheers going out when he said they reject the arrest warrants against Israeli leaders were sad too <cite>VFalcone posted [p:980492334] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Zoks posted... </cite><quote>https://apnews.com/article/live-transmission-israel-associated-press-57e8f662907334ba3599156276381190They don't want any critical news coming out against them.</quote>Targeting Al Jazeera? Okay, I guess. There's some controversy with them in the Middle East anyway. The Associated Press (AP)? No excuses. None.CountCorvinus posted... </cite><quote>This guy sucks.https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782</quote>Welp. There it is. Biden says there is no genocide. The cheers going out when he said they reject the arrest warrants against Israeli leaders were sad too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 05/21/24 4:07:54 PM #96:	In their response to the ICC's warrants, Netanyahu and Bennett emphasis that Israel is a democracy as if that means they're incapable of crimes against humanity. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:980495095] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>In their response to the ICC's warrants, Netanyahu and Bennett emphasis that Israel is a democracy as if that means they're incapable of crimes against humanity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 05/21/24 7:06:04 PM #97:	Wow.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_FnTyAl3po <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:980497491] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Wow....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_FnTyAl3po</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 05/22/24 12:51:11 AM #98:	https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgygdr7vezo.amp The full article is worth reading, but this part in particular... Don't know what to say. "Sufian Abu Salah, a 43-year-old taxi driver from Khan Youis, was one of dozens of men detained during raids by Israel's army and taken to a military base for questioning. He said soldiers carried out severe beatings during the journey and also on arrival at the base, where he was denied treatment for a minor wound on his foot, which then became infected. My leg got infected and turned blue, and as soft as a sponge, he told the BBC. After a week, he said, the guards took him to hospital, beating him on his injured leg on the way. Two operations to clean his wound did not work, he told the BBC. Afterwards, they took me to a public hospital, where the doctor gave me two options: my leg or my life. He chose his life. After they amputated his leg, he was sent back to the military base, and later released back to Gaza. "This period was mental and physical torture, he said. I cant describe it. I was detained with two legs and now I have only one. Every now and then, I cry." --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:980501697] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgygdr7vezo.ampThe full article is worth reading, but this part in particular... Don't know what to say."Sufian Abu Salah, a 43-year-old taxi driver from Khan Youis, was one of dozens of men detained during raids by Israel's army and taken to a military base for questioning.He said soldiers carried out severe beatings during the journey and also on arrival at the base, where he was denied treatment for a minor wound on his foot, which then became infected.My leg got infected and turned blue, and as soft as a sponge, he told the BBC.After a week, he said, the guards took him to hospital, beating him on his injured leg on the way. Two operations to clean his wound did not work, he told the BBC.Afterwards, they took me to a public hospital, where the doctor gave me two options: my leg or my life.He chose his life. After they amputated his leg, he was sent back to the military base, and later released back to Gaza."This period was mental and physical torture, he said. I cant describe it. I was detained with two legs and now I have only one. Every now and then, I cry." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 05/22/24 3:47:46 AM #99:	IDF air strikes a hospital, and besieges another in Jabalia. Food distributions suspended in Rafah. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-troops-push-into-jabalia-airstrikes-kill-five-rafah-2024-05-21/ --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:980502586] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>IDF air strikes a hospital, and besieges another in Jabalia. Food distributions suspended in Rafah.https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-troops-push-into-jabalia-airstrikes-kill-five-rafah-2024-05-21/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 05/22/24 5:52:19 AM #100:	Ireland, Norway, and Spain to recognize the Palestinian State. Israeli government response: summon the ambassadors and make them watch a video of the October atrocity. I wonder if watching videos of a country murdering civilians will become a standard method of deciding whether their statehood should be recognised. And also how Israel would fare under such a system. Or, indeed, a lot of countries. BBC News - Ireland, Norway, and Spain to recognise Palestinian state next week - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-69047220 --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:980503115] in Israel/Pal... [t:80772077]...</cite> <quote>Ireland, Norway, and Spain to recognize the Palestinian State.Israeli government response: summon the ambassadors and make them watch a video of the October atrocity.I wonder if watching videos of a country murdering civilians will become a standard method of deciding whether their statehood should be recognised. And also how Israel would fare under such a system. Or, indeed, a lot of countries.BBC News - Ireland, Norway, and Spain to recognise Palestinian state next week - BBC Newshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-69047220 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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