Current Events > Hillary Clinton says many young people don't know history of Middle East

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Fenriswolf
05/09/24 11:16:42 PM
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wanderingshade posted...
Israel-Palestine and Ukraine-Russia are different enough for it to make absolutely no sense to compare them.

It makes perfect sense to compare them. Two atrocious wars, but one gets universal condemnation, the other gets the "both sides" argument.

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Diceheist
05/09/24 11:27:17 PM
#102:


wanderingshade posted...
Israel-Palestine and Ukraine-Russia are different enough for it to make absolutely no sense to compare them.

Both are occupying territory that is not their own.

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Akuryu
05/09/24 11:36:34 PM
#103:


Most young people in America don't even know American history. The middle east might as well be another planet.
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shoryukek
05/09/24 11:40:22 PM
#104:


thronedfire2 posted...

  • and those other countries went to war with Israel and lost, so you can't really blame Israel for taking more territory than they started with.


What kind of stupid logic is that
By that logic Russia now owns half of Ukraine
But no they don't and israel has been stealing land and killing people since its inception.
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PraetorXyn
05/09/24 11:46:26 PM
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You mean Hillary Clinton is shit at politics yet again? Im shocked.

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Thermador446
05/10/24 12:35:25 AM
#107:


From what I have read, Israel's only claim to the area is "that God told them to" .

Which is total bullshit in ANY circumstance.

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wanderingshade
05/10/24 1:20:27 AM
#108:


Fenriswolf posted...
It makes perfect sense to compare them. Two atrocious wars, but one gets universal condemnation, the other gets the "both sides" argument.

Ukraine wasn't worried about Russian nationalists pre-2014 and then stabbing random ethnic Russians in riots, for reasons of "they started it kinda".

Diceheist posted...
Both are occupying territory that is not their own.

If you're going to just reduce it to that, you can KIND of compare them.

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TheFuzz3451
05/10/24 11:21:42 PM
#109:


PraetorXyn posted...
You mean Hillary Clinton is shit at politics yet again? Im shocked.

This isn't "shit at politics". This is Hillary Clinton expressing her genuine belief. Her genuine belief is that protesting against genocide is more morally repulsive than carrying out genocide.

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Payzmaykr
05/10/24 11:24:45 PM
#110:


History class basically went: settlers, the Civil War, WW2, repeat.
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PraetorXyn
05/11/24 1:17:42 AM
#111:


TheFuzz3451 posted...
This isn't "shit at politics". This is Hillary Clinton expressing her genuine belief. Her genuine belief is that protesting against genocide is more morally repulsive than carrying out genocide.
Its both. You are entirely correct aside from your first sentence. Politics 101 is put on a fake smile and hide the negative aspects of yourself and your actions, and so of course her expressing her genuine shit belief is an example of her being shit at politics.

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DnDer
05/11/24 2:10:13 AM
#112:


Mecha_Sonic posted...
therefore, either hillary clinton is right and the protestors don't know history, or the protestors really are anti-semitic

This conclusion is flawed.

It's drawn from the assumption that (1) protestors, as a movement, are "rooting for hamas," and that (2) the river-sea chant means only the things you're ascribing to it.

Those are assumptions are deeply incorrect.

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Aloc
05/11/24 2:12:05 AM
#113:


He's suspended anyways.

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DnDer
05/11/24 2:28:21 AM
#114:


Aloc posted...
He's suspended anyways.

Oh. Well, then.

Is that gone for good now? Or a proper purg or suspension is required?

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Aloc
05/11/24 2:38:01 AM
#115:


He's gone for good.

On CE

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RndmNmber1
05/11/24 2:47:53 AM
#116:


Democrats and actively sabotaging their chance, name a more iconic duo.

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_Valigarmanda_
05/11/24 2:51:05 AM
#117:


I mean... she's right, I'm not a damn scholar on the intricacies of Middle Eastern politics, but do I need those credentials to recognize the very obvious wanton murder and destruction taking place in Gaza?

The Clintons can't fuck off fast enough. You fucking lost, Hillary - go away

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/13/24 5:35:34 PM
#118:


I mean, she's not wrong.

But I was hoping this was heading toward "so here is my X-year plan to update our education standards" instead of more of this shit.

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Tyranthraxus
05/13/24 5:46:46 PM
#119:


The history doesn't matter because no history justifies genocide in the present.

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HeeathLivesOn
05/14/24 6:01:38 PM
#120:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The history doesn't matter because no history justifies genocide in the present.
Exactly.

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Necronmon
05/14/24 6:04:42 PM
#121:


The history doesn't matter because no history justifies genocide in the present.
Exactly.

Republicans are like one step away from just saying all winner first world nations are built on genocide and anyone who has a problem with that is a wuss that deserves to be enslaved or something based on how there reactions have been the past months.
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/14/24 6:42:31 PM
#122:


This condescending attitude is exactly why she lost the election and why we ended up with Trump, so fuck her

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Beveren_Rabbit
05/14/24 6:49:34 PM
#123:


HeeathLivesOn posted...
But many people know how to spot genocide when shown clear evidence, though. Something some corrupt politicians wish people couldn't do.


young people are just copying what youtubers are doing without doing their own research

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R_Jackal
05/14/24 6:50:54 PM
#124:


I feel like these days a lot of people barely know the history of their own country, let alone others. At least here in the US
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Thanatos_the_Great
05/14/24 7:06:27 PM
#125:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
This condescending attitude is exactly why she lost the election and why we ended up with Trump, so fuck her

No, she 'lost' the election because thousands of people were unconstitutionally disenfranchised by Republican local governments in swing states (and probably also Russian interference). I don't like Clinton and she's full of shit in her comments here about Palestine and the protests, but it's important not to pretend Trump's victory in 2016 was in any way legitimate (even by the warped standards of the electoral college system).

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cjsdowg
05/14/24 8:27:32 PM
#126:


I know she brought Slavery back to Northern Africa .

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