Current Events > Switch 2 hardware specs got leaked

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I'm still salty at that topic from earlier in the year where me and another dude argued profusely that the Switch 2 was going to gamble on DLSS with shockingly subpar specs. We got laughed out.

If this turns out to be true, lmao.

bluezero posted...

Why does Nintendo always aim so low?

I made a topic a couple months ago on the Switch board asking about "what if" the successor was as powerful as the PS5, and the topic went into specs territory saying that a handheld just can't be that powerful without being a huge battery drain and overheating the system. So PS4 strength, to me, doesn't sound low.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/80728114

Give it a read if you have the chance.

C-zom posted...

I'm still salty at that topic from earlier in the year where me and another dude argued profusely that the Switch 2 was going to gamble on DLSS with shockingly subpar specs. We got laughed out.

If this turns out to be true, lmao.

This was common knowledge for a long time tbh.

CRON posted...

This was common knowledge for a long time tbh.

I know. You wouldn't believe how many people refused to believe it.

Prestoff posted...

You can still download the games you purchased through the eshop, you can't just buy things there anymore.

Is that true? I swear last time I tried I couldn't redownload my wii games. I'd do anything to redownload Paper Mario again but last time I tried I couldn't. If I'm wrong on this I'll happily admit it and be happy for being able to redownload Paper Mario rather than being forced to subscribe to the N64 games on the switch.

I bet Pokemon will still run like junk

SHRlKE posted...

Is that true? I swear last time I tried I couldn't redownload my wii games. I'd do anything to redownload Paper Mario again but last time I tried I couldn't. If I'm wrong on this I'll happily admit it and be happy for being able to redownload Paper Mario rather than being forced to subscribe to the N64 games on the switch.

Was that in 2022 when you last tried? There was like a 4 month period where the Wii Shop Channel was down for maintenance that year.

Northlane posted...

I bet Pokemon will still run like junk

Of course it will. Gamefreak will continue to make it

Northlane posted...

I bet Pokemon will still run like junk

Wouldn't surprise me if it did. Hopefully Palworld will have given them the kick up the arse needed for them to actually try in their next release. It's embarrassing how much money they've made off the games to date and still can't compete with an indie studio when it comes to creating a game that runs well and actually excites people rather than just phoning it in and releasing more of the same thing we've seen for almost 3 decades.

rick_alverado posted...

Was that in 2022 when you last tried? There was like a 4 month period where the Wii Shop Channel was down for maintenance that year.

That rings a bell so possibly. So to confirm you can still download games on the Wii from the store.

I can't be bothered to get my wii out just to find out I still can't do it tbh.

SHRlKE posted...

Wouldn't surprise me if it did. Hopefully Palworld will have given them the kick up the arse needed for them to actually try in their next release. It's embarrassing how much money they've made off the games to date and still can't compete with an indie studio when it comes to creating a game that runs well and actually excites people rather than just phoning it in and releasing more of the same thing we've seen for almost 3 decades.

Almost as if publishers are a big problem with these productions.

I only buy Nintendo consoles for the 1st party games. Whether or not it can handle modern cross-platform titles is irrelevant because I'll just buy those on better hardware.

The only thing that matters to me is that it's backwards compatible with Switch 1. I'm not going to keep 2 portables around, and I'm not buying "Enhanced" Switch 2 ports of Swith 1 games.

Seriously? The RTX 3050 mobile chip has 2048 cores, and that's the weakest one of the series

SHRlKE posted...

That rings a bell so possibly. So to confirm you can still download games on the Wii from the store.

I can't be bothered to get my wii out just to find out I still can't do it tbh.

You should be able to, although in trying to check myself just now, I have learned of another issue that may come up for you, as it did for me. Turns out the security settings on my wireless router are more advanced than the Wii software understands, so I'm unable to connect to the internet with it without doing more work than I feel like doing at the moment.

Guide posted...

No, you should be able to tell, from context, that I'm speaking in a technical sense, not a financial sense.

.....The technical reason is "It's better than the previous one"

Do video game consoles need more of a reason than that to exist?

Dudebusters posted...

.....The technical reason is "It's better than the previous one"

Do video game consoles need more of a reason than that to exist?

You might be able to figure if you actually read my post, maybe.

Why are we just assuming this is legit?

Guide posted...

You might be able to figure if you actually read my post, maybe.

You're whining that it's still underpowered compared to newer hardware and thus shouldn't exist.

I'm treating that post with about as much respect as it deserves.

Based on the Cuda Cores amount, the graphics performance may be near the GTX 1660ti or RTX 3050

C-zom posted...

I'm still salty at that topic from earlier in the year where me and another dude argued profusely that the Switch 2 was going to gamble on DLSS with shockingly subpar specs. We got laughed out.

If this turns out to be true, lmao.

It was obvious it would be used to (try to) make up for inevitably subpar specs assuming an Nvidia GPU would be what Nintendo goes with. Having a console/handheld hybrid is going to limit the resolution/fps, so this was inevitable.

Hejiru posted...

Why are we just assuming this is legit?

You're right, close the topic.

$300?

I am more than happy with this if true.

Dakimakura posted...

Can't wait to see the XBOX 360 looking games they create for it

The Switch is pretty much a 7.5 gen system. Switch 2 is a 8.5 gen system.
Drop the handheld, keep the joycons, upgrade the specs to current Gen. People are playing your systems because of the IPs not the latest gimmick you can think up Nintendo.

I sure do hope I can still use my current joycons on the Switch 2, cause I got a boat load of them . . .

At least it will be able to play Palworld.

vycebrand2 posted...

The Switch is pretty much a 7.5 gen system. Switch 2 is a 8.5 gen system.
Drop the handheld, keep the joycons, upgrade the specs to current Gen. People are playing your systems because of the IPs not the latest gimmick you can think up Nintendo.

The handheld side of things is 1000% a huge part of why the Switch sells so well to begin with

PS4 Pro graphics are perfectly fine for this lol hell, PS5 and series X aren't even that huge of a step up.

Also I like people complaining about the low specs on a hybrid handheld.

I mean you could probably figure out how to fit a 4090 equivalent in there if you sacrifice size and want the battery to last .015 seconds. It's a balancing act.

Awesome

Sounds perfect. It's a Nintendo machine first and foremost, not a 3rd party. The only 3rd party game I've bought on Switch is some indie Metroidvania title.

R_Jackal posted...

Also I like people complaining about the low specs on a hybrid handheld.

I mean you could probably figure out how to fit a 4090 equivalent in there if you sacrifice size and want the battery to last .015 seconds. It's a balancing act.

Well this is just a silly post. The handheld market is insanely competitive now. Steam Decks and ROG Ally's for example make the Switch look like a fuckin gameboy.

Typical Nintendo showing up days late and dollars short and people continue to give them the benefit of the doubt for some reason.

SwayM posted...

Well this is just a silly post. The handheld market is insanely competitive now. Steam Decks and ROG Ally's for example make the Switch look like a fuckin gameboy.

Typical Nintendo showing up days late and dollars short and people continue to give them the benefit of the doubt for some reason.

The steam deck battery lasts two hours, give or take.

Had a power outage and was playing my switch for about eightish hours and still have battery left.

Thus, balancing act.

Hejiru posted...

Why are we just assuming this is legit?

Because people want it to be true and it's "believable"

R_Jackal posted...

The steam deck battery lasts two hours, give or take.

Had a power outage and was playing my switch for about eightish hours and still have battery left.

Thus, balancing act.

That's highly dependent on the game being played for both devices tbf

I wouldnt care about the power level if nintendo would actually support the console

they're developing for one system instead of two like they used to and were lucky to get two games a year that arent remakes or rehashes

the excuse for that has been theyre gearing up for switch 2 for like five years now; hope they actually have something to show for it

R_Jackal posted...

The steam deck battery lasts two hours, give or take.

Had a power outage and was playing my switch for about eightish hours and still have battery left.

Thus, balancing act.

That's been a big part of Nintendo's strategy with handhelds the entire time. It's a big part of the reason that the Game Boy beat the more powerful Game Gear, the DS beat the more powerful PSP, and the 3DS beat the more powerful PSV.

R_Jackal posted...

The steam deck battery lasts two hours, give or take.

Had a power outage and was playing my switch for about eightish hours and still have battery left.

Thus, balancing act.

Also even the premium Model of Switch is cheaper then the most basic model of Steam Deck.

And Switch doesn't need to worry about benchmarks or compatibility either.

TheGoldenEel posted...

I wouldnt care about the power level if nintendo would actually support the console

they're developing for one system instead of two like they used to and were lucky to get two games a year that arent remakes or rehashes

the excuse for that has been theyre gearing up for switch 2 for like five years now; hope they actually have something to show for it

Thats a bad hot take

Neat

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Also even the premium Model of Switch is cheaper then the most basic model of Steam Deck.

And Switch doesn't need to worry about benchmarks or compatibility either.

Yeah cant believe people are ignoring the price and battery life as significant factors of a handheld device

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Also even the premium Model of Switch is cheaper then the most basic model of Steam Deck.

And Switch doesn't need to worry about benchmarks or compatibility either.

This is another, and absolutely enormous factor. Plug and play appeal. You pop a switch cartridge in, you download a game, it works. No tinkering, no manual OS updating, nothing. That's fucking huge for mass appeal.

Baha05 posted...

Thats a bad hot take

how?

we used to get essentially twice as many games from nintendo, and they would often try weird and interesting things on the handheld side in particular, even if those weird and interesting things didn't always work (see: Ever Oasis, Metroid Prime Federation Force, etc)

now they pad out their schedule with overpriced remakes and nearly every game is safe and by-the-numbers

they still have masterpieces here and there like Pikmin 4 but for the most part it feels like they're coasting

and with their underpowered hardware barely anyone else is making games for the system so it will continue to be almost entirely on Nintendo to support the thing

Nintendo only has a little over 7000 employees globally. It takes groups of many hundreds of people many years to make 1 AAA game nowadays. Now of course Nintendo games arent on that scale other than maybe requiring a ton of people for Zelda, but their output of total games dropping makes sense all things considered.

ADW posted...

Nintendo only has a little over 7000 employees globally. It takes groups of many hundreds of people many years to make 1 AAA game nowadays. Now of course Nintendo games arent on that scale other than maybe requiring a ton of people for Zelda, but their output of total games makes sense all things considered.

that's the thing, they're not making AAA games on that scale.

so many of their games for switch are essentially formulaic 2D platformers. which is fine, they do those better than anyone, but then it begs the question of what they're doing with all their development time when they're doing basically zero innovation outside of Zelda

TheGoldenEel posted...

that's the thing, they're not making AAA games on that scale.

so many of their games for switch are essentially formulaic 2D platformers. which is fine, they do those better than anyone, but then it begs the question of what they're doing with all their development time when they're doing basically zero innovation outside of Zelda

Theyre budgeting properly and making shitloads of money. Nobody else in the industry can say that. Bottomless pockets Microsoft are closing studios and firing people left and right and arent pumping out games either. The PS5 is a wasteland for games too, so Nintendo doesnt deserve any flak for it either. If game development only took like a few dozen people like back in the day then maybe theyd deserve blame, but it doesnt anymore.

ADW posted...

Theyre budgeting properly and making shitloads of money. Nobody else in the industry can say that. Bottomless pockets Microsoft are closing studios and firing people left and right and arent pumping out games either. The PS5 is a wasteland for games too, so Nintendo doesnt deserve any flak for it either. If game development only took like a few dozen people back in the day then maybe theyd deserve blame, but it doesnt anymore.

that's nonsense, PS5 and XSX might not have many or any first party exclusives but since they're modern hardware they get lots and lots of support from third party developers

nintendo has never relied on third party games so as usual they're essentially supporting the switch by themselves, and with just a few new, original games per year they're not doing a good job of it

and theoretically since they're working with like ten year old tech, and at just HD or less it should take less time and fewer man-hours to make their games than your average AAA game right now

TheGoldenEel posted...

so many of their games for switch are essentially formulaic 2D platformers

Is this actually true? Honest question. I can think of Kirby Star Allies and Mario Wonder, other than a few ports like Tropical Freeze and NSMBU. This seems quite outnumbered by the number of first party games that aren't 2D platformers.

IDK why people worry so much about Nintendo console specs when you're almost certainly not buying it for its power. If you're buying Nintendo stuff you're probably buying it for first party games.