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thronedfire2
05/02/24 7:41:24 PM
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when I beat this as a kid, and even 10 years ago or whatever that I beat it again, I never used the enemy skill or any complicated materia like manipulate or anything besides the basic attacks.

I'm playing again and actually using a guide, and these two materia really change the entire game.

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BearlyWilling
05/02/24 7:43:47 PM
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Eh, the game is already easy enough. Outside of White Wind, Big Guard, and Matra Magic (for a being an early cost effective and hard-ish hitting spell), I never saw much need for it, personally.

Maybe Im missing some awesome stuff, who knows, but year, I dont use it beyond the spells referenced above.

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Robot2600
05/02/24 7:55:47 PM
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BearlyWilling posted...
Eh, the game is already easy enough. Outside of White Wind, Big Guard, and Matra Magic (for a being an early cost effective and hard-ish hitting spell), I never saw much need for it, personally.

Maybe Im missing some awesome stuff, who knows, but year, I dont use it beyond the spells referenced above.

those spells are awesome tho

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Rika_Furude
05/02/24 7:56:44 PM
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The only ones I remember using are white wind and big guard. Big guard is OP, but white wind was a gamble on whether youd get hit before the cast goes off
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thronedfire2
05/02/24 7:57:16 PM
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Matra Magic was actually the one ability that I wanted to name in my OP and I forgot.

it made it so easy to grind early on, and I managed to get Aeris's 3rd limit break for the first time ever >_>

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Trumble
05/02/24 8:39:05 PM
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As soon as you realize Beta (or Aqualung) is learnable...

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thronedfire2
05/02/24 8:52:48 PM
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Trumble posted...
As soon as you realize Beta (or Aqualung) is learnable...

I didn't get either of those. didn't want to deal with the Zolom, and I only just now got to 1000hp with everyone to live through Aqualung

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
05/02/24 9:04:08 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
and I only just now got to 1000hp with everyone to live through Aqualung
There's a water absorbing accessory around the area where you fight JenovaLIFE iirc.

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Ivany2008
05/02/24 9:10:43 PM
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And FF9 becomes dramatically easier when you learn L5 death, as Grand Dragons are vulnerable to it.
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radical_rhino
05/02/24 9:14:52 PM
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The game is already easy as piss. You can breeze through 98% of it just spamming attack with occasional heals.

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PowerOats
05/02/24 9:16:23 PM
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Enemy Skill is so op it starts making regular magic materia useless unless linked
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MICHALECOLE
05/02/24 9:17:43 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
The game is already easy as piss. You can breeze through 98% of it just spamming attack with occasional heals.
Easy as piss, he says
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Makeveli_lives
05/02/24 9:40:59 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...
And FF9 becomes dramatically easier when you learn L5 death, as Grand Dragons are vulnerable to it.
God I cant stand Quina to this day. I never moved past the original 4 tbh once I got far enough to have all 8 and switch freely. Eiko got in once in a while but dagger was the main by far.

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Ivany2008
05/03/24 1:09:49 AM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
God I cant stand Quina to this day. I never moved past the original 4 tbh once I got far enough to have all 8 and switch freely. Eiko got in once in a while but dagger was the main by far.

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Whiterun_Guard_
05/03/24 1:11:15 AM
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Big Guard is ridic

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/03/24 1:23:16 AM
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The game is kind of too easy to need it, but yes, several of the enemy skills are absurdly powerful. Big Guard is probably the most overpowered.

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sabin017
05/03/24 1:25:52 AM
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If you're equipped enough like me then it's kinda funny beating the final boss in 1 attack (essentially spamming KotR lol)

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Whiterun_Guard_
05/03/24 1:26:38 AM
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You can beat most encounters with a single Aqua Lung (Breath), Trine, Beta, or Magic Breath

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Trumble
05/03/24 3:13:08 AM
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Whiterun_Guard_ posted...
You can beat most encounters with a single Aqua Lung (Breath), Trine, Beta, or Magic Breath
Trine is a bit weaker than the others. It's more MP efficient, but weaker in terms of raw damage per use.

Magic Breath's triple elemental nature can also hold it back in some cases.

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Whiterun_Guard_
05/03/24 3:14:27 AM
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Right, and they dont help as much against singular tough enemies.

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comicfire
05/03/24 3:30:09 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
Matra Magic was actually the one ability that I wanted to name in my OP and I forgot.

it made it so easy to grind early on, and I managed to get Aeris's 3rd limit break for the first time ever >_>

I missed the first enemy skill materia when I first played and didnt get to experience the joy of shattering the next couple areas with Matra Magic. Falls off pretty quick, but it's such a godsend at the moment

Edit: Also was always enamored with Pandora's Box, the one that can only be used by a Dragon Zombie once per save file. Except beating the first of the final bosses re-activates its usage flag, but obvs by then, you can't fight any more Dragon Zombies. Silly game~

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Trumble
05/03/24 6:13:09 AM
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Whiterun_Guard_ posted...
Right, and they dont help as much against singular tough enemies.
I mean... They do help a lot. They're just not one hit KOs. Aside from final dungeon enemies and Vlakorados, very few enemies are going to survive more than one or two Magic Breaths or even Beta / Aqualung unless they resist / absorb it.

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