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WarfireX
05/01/24 3:42:20 PM
#1:


Even though it's hands down the best live action Batman movie?

You guys have had some bad takes before. Can someone explain this one to me? Without just being like "It's a bad movie!". Like, as a Batman fan this is the only one that I didn't have any problems with while watching. I know it doesn't have Heath Ledger in it, and it might not be perfect sure, but this is a really good movie.

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Turbam
05/01/24 3:42:56 PM
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MICHALECOLE
05/01/24 3:45:40 PM
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I hated it

from the very first scene that shows Batman on the news, and yet the criminal on the street says who are you supposed to be? To the scene where Batman watches catwoman with binoculars as she changes, to the scene where he puts his face next to an exploding bomb, to the scene where he says youre not my real dad! To the scene where the penguin literally dunks on both Gordon and Batman and just calls them morons, to the fact that the movie just would. Not. Fucking. End.

it was hands down my least favorite movie of the year, and my least favorite Batman movie. And I was so excited for it too!

but Im glad you liked it
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ellis123
05/01/24 3:47:18 PM
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WarfireX posted...
Even though it's hands down the best live action Batman movie?
Delusions of grandeur.

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ClayGuida
05/01/24 3:49:25 PM
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Everything about the movie was fantastic except the MSG scene. Felt dumb.

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Murphiroth
05/01/24 3:51:36 PM
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Nah the board just has a couple of very vocal haters.
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WarfireX
05/01/24 3:52:50 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I hated it

from the very first scene that shows Batman on the news, and yet the criminal on the street says who are you supposed to be? To the scene where Batman watches catwoman with binoculars as she changes, to the scene where he puts his face next to an exploding bomb, to the scene where he says youre not my real dad! To the scene where the penguin literally dunks on both Gordon and Batman and just calls them morons, to the fact that the movie just would. Not. Fucking. End.

it was hands down my least favorite movie of the year, and my least favorite Batman movie. And I was so excited for it too!

but Im glad you liked it
I remember you from the other topic. Glad you at least articulated your problems.

Also, the part with Batman monitoring Catwoman "while she changed" was fine. It would have been stupid if he turned away or whatever. It's not like he pulled a George McFly and was full on peeping on her.

Sure, this Batman made rookie mistakes. That's better than veteran Batman who quit after his first hard day at work being outsmarted by everyone in the Dark Knight Rises.

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FinalBraveNUT
05/01/24 3:53:08 PM
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Dark knight forever!

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MICHALECOLE
05/01/24 3:57:36 PM
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WarfireX posted...
I remember you from the other topic. Glad you at least articulated your problems.

Also, the part with Batman monitoring Catwoman "while she changed" was fine. It would have been stupid if he turned away or whatever. It's not like he pulled a George McFly and was full on peeping on her.

Sure, this Batman made rookie mistakes. That's better than veteran Batman who quit after his first hard day at work being outsmarted by everyone in the Dark Knight Rises.
I only saw the movie once in theaters and I really, truly didnt like the movie.. when it was fresh I felt like I could have written a book about everything I didnt like about it. The riddlers plan was so convoluted and part of it was something about a street light or something to kill John turturro character as he exited a building.. but what if.. he had like.. gone out of a different exit

mfer would have just been sitting there in that room like oh fuck what do I do now

even the big chase scene. What a waste of time that felt like

i honestly dont even like to express negative opinions about media, i just ignore it if I dont like it.. but this Batman movie felt insulting to me

but again, this is just my opinion, and Im glad you liked it!

Ill still probably see the next one
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ClayGuida
05/01/24 3:59:34 PM
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There was only one entrance. We saw that when batman brute forced his way into the club.

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Blackestmage
05/01/24 4:00:58 PM
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That movie was a masterpiece. Finally, a real, dark movie about the darkest superhero (yeah ok I know he's not a SUPERhero, but you get it).

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K181
05/01/24 4:02:29 PM
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It had good moments, but holy fuck it dragged on way too long, the entire last 45 minutes felt like it was tacked on in post with reshoots to up the stakes, I get Bruce was inexperienced but he came off as dumb on multiple occasions and overall a creep, they found a way to make Jeffrey freaking Wright seem like an over the top caricature, and their rendition of the Joker seemed bad from the limited airtime he got (including a deleted scene), just to name a few complaints.

Colin Farrell as the Penguin was fucking awesome, though.

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WarfireX
05/01/24 4:03:26 PM
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Even if there was another entrance, IDK why you wouldn't assume he had that covered too. It was made pretty clear he had a lot of people under his thumb.

Did you go into the movie with your mind made up not to like it? A friend of mine did that, but that's because he's super immature and keeps associating Batman as "the Twilight guy". It's pretty annoying because it ages him significantly, like nowadays nobody thinks of those two actors in that context. Both of them have moved on.

Anyways, if you didn't like it that's OK. It just seems like if you didn't like this one why would you like any of the Batman movies. My friend always shuts his mouth when I mention it, but he would get really enthusiastic about how Ben Affleck is the best one and how his movie is going to be amazing, and now when I bring that up it just totally shuts him down. Like he is done with the argument.

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WarfireX
05/01/24 4:05:37 PM
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K181 posted...
It had good moments, but holy fuck it dragged on way too long, the entire last 45 minutes felt like it was tacked on in post with reshoots to up the stakes, I get Bruce was inexperienced but he came off as dumb on multiple occasions and overall a creep, they found a way to make Jeffrey freaking Wright seem like an over the top caricature, and their rendition of the Joker seemed bad from the limited airtime he got (including a deleted scene), just to name a few complaints.

Colin Farrell as the Penguin was fucking awesome, though.
I didn't like their Joker either but he had such little screen time that it didn't bother me. Glad they decided to cut that leaked scene.

Maybe it's from years of Batman being ruined in comics as clearly superhuman but not superhuman, but I appreciate when I see a Batman that makes mistakes. Nolan's Batman was just too flat out incompetent by the third movie though, that was inexcusable.

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bsp77
05/01/24 4:07:24 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I hated it

from the very first scene that shows Batman on the news, and yet the criminal on the street says who are you supposed to be? To the scene where Batman watches catwoman with binoculars as she changes, to the scene where he puts his face next to an exploding bomb, to the scene where he says youre not my real dad! To the scene where the penguin literally dunks on both Gordon and Batman and just calls them morons, to the fact that the movie just would. Not. Fucking. End.

it was hands down my least favorite movie of the year, and my least favorite Batman movie. And I was so excited for it too!

but Im glad you liked it
You sound like a can't see the forest through the trees kinda person

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MICHALECOLE
05/01/24 4:07:33 PM
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WarfireX posted...
Even if there was another entrance, IDK why you wouldn't assume he had that covered too. It was made pretty clear he had a lot of people under his thumb.

Did you go into the movie with your mind made up not to like it? A friend of mine did that, but that's because he's super immature and keeps associating Batman as "the Twilight guy". It's pretty annoying because it ages him significantly, like nowadays nobody thinks of those two actors in that context. Both of them have moved on.

Anyways, if you didn't like it that's OK. It just seems like if you didn't like this one why would you like any of the Batman movies. My friend always shuts his mouth when I mention it, but he would get really enthusiastic about how Ben Affleck is the best one and how his movie is going to be amazing, and now when I bring that up it just totally shuts him down. Like he is done with the argument.
No, I was very excited for it. I had high hopes for Pattinson, and I thought the way he played it was just.. I dont blame him, I blame the direction, but it was just awful.

I love 89 and returns, love begins and the dark knight, tdkr was so disappointing, but it had its moments. Returns and Batman and Robin are basically comedies and I enjoy them looking at it like that. The Snyder movies are dumb as fuck, but Ive always loved Ben affleck, just like, in general
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MICHALECOLE
05/01/24 4:08:34 PM
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bsp77 posted...
You sound like a can't see the forest through the trees kinda person
You sound like a cut off your nose to spite her face kinda person
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WarfireX
05/01/24 4:09:45 PM
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I don't understand Michael Cole. You sound like a chill dude. You sound like you like Batman.

I'm not even mad at you for disagreeing with me. I'm just sad you can't appreciate this movie that was made for us Batfans.

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bsp77
05/01/24 4:09:54 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
You sound like a cut off your nose to spite her face kinda person
That doesn't make sense from the context

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MICHALECOLE
05/01/24 4:11:23 PM
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WarfireX posted...
I don't understand Michael Cole. You sound like a chill dude. You sound like you like Batman.

I'm not even mad at you for disagreeing with me. I'm just sad you can't appreciate this movie that was made for us Batfans.
I am a very chill dude but sometimes you just dont like things, it happens

Im not like in love with Batman or anything, I definitely prefer spiderman

bsp77 posted...
That doesn't make sense from the context
Throw the baby out with the bath water why dont you
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bsp77
05/01/24 4:12:00 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Throw the baby out with the bath water why dont you
Okay, you made me laugh now

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WarfireX
05/01/24 4:13:58 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I am a very chill dude but sometimes you just dont like things, it happens

Im not like in love with Batman or anything, I definitely prefer spiderman

Throw the baby out with the bath water why dont you
Neither am I. I have grown sick of Batman from all the fans that want him portrayed like he's perfect, just needs a plan, doesn't matter how contrived or dumb it is. He always has some perfect DEM to pull out of his butt and he can beat Superman.

But I do like good movies.

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creativerealms
05/01/24 4:14:59 PM
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It's a good movie, but I'm sick of serious grounded Batman stories. Serious is fine but a bit more fantastic.

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McMarbles
05/01/24 4:15:56 PM
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I liked the parts I could actually see.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/01/24 4:55:27 PM
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I didn't like it tbh.

It honestly looked kind of not good to me from the trailers and such, so maybe it was bias from the get-go, but I just didn't like it.

Batmobile was cool. Catwoman's cat ears were adorable. Oh and Batman walking against a fiery background with the music was some pretty cool stuff. But that was all I really remember enjoying.

Riddler for some reason dresses like Doomsday? Um... Ok I guess.

Bruce Wayne is a weirdo creeper? I guess as an alternate take it might work, if they do something interesting with it?

Is that a Batfax machine? Er...

Every single character from Batman to Gordon to Penguin to Riddler being completely incompetent? ... I guess it could still have some redeeming qualit--

Riddler recruited on literal YouTube? No. No. This movie has to be a parody. It has to be.

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BucketCat
05/01/24 4:57:14 PM
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I'm prob in the minority, but I cannot stand any live action batman movie. I absolutely loved TAS as a kid and even read some comics, but the live action movies never did it for me.
The only ones I will watch are batman forever and also batman and robin, but that's cus I generally like 90s super hero movies than post-00s-ish movies.

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ssb_yunglink2
05/01/24 4:58:03 PM
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I really liked it and dont understand why it has such passionate haters on this board.

At the very least its better than dark knight rises, which was so incredibly disappointing after the dark knight

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/01/24 5:02:06 PM
#30:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I really liked it and dont understand why it has such passionate haters on this board.

At the very least its better than dark knight rises, which was so incredibly disappointing after the dark knight
DKR at least had a passionate Batman. Bane is all like I'm going to destroy Gotham and Batman goes nooooooo

Riddler's all like I'm going to destroy Gotham and Batman goes cool let me help

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WarfireX
05/01/24 5:04:52 PM
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Can you guys explain to me how he is a weirdo creeper or that not taking his eyes off of Catwoman while she was changing was out of character?

I get you guys want to take a stand against exploitation of women or whatever, but he isn't going to turn away from the camera because he's staking someone out. It would be so dumb if he did it, literal 4th wall breaking levels of stupidity.

The girl I was with made a comment on this when we saw it and she was insufferable, bringing politics and this kind of stuff into everything. I ghosted her because of it.

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Quezovercoatl
05/01/24 5:06:04 PM
#32:


BucketCat posted...
I'm prob in the minority, but I cannot stand any live action batman movie. I absolutely loved TAS as a kid and even read some comics, but the live action movies never did it for me.
The only ones I will watch are batman forever and also batman and robin, but that's cus I generally like 90s super hero movies than post-00s-ish movies.
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ToucheTurtle
05/01/24 5:07:37 PM
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I loved everything about The Batman easily my favorite Batman movie.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/01/24 5:08:44 PM
#34:


WarfireX posted...
Can you guys explain to me how he is a weirdo creeper or that not taking his eyes off of Catwoman while she was changing was out of character?

I get you guys want to take a stand against exploitation of women or whatever, but he isn't going to turn away from the camera because he's staking someone out. It would be so dumb if he did it, literal 4th wall breaking levels of stupidity.

The girl I was with made a comment on this when we saw it and she was insufferable, bringing politics and this kind of stuff into everything. I ghosted her because of it.
That's not what I'm talking about about.

I'm talking about the parts where he shows up as Bruce Wayne and he's... a complete weirdo creeper. Like as if literal Gollum wandered into the scene. He tries to blend in with the crowd but ends up blending in with the wall instead.

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ssb_yunglink2
05/01/24 5:12:32 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
DKR at least had a passionate Batman. Bane is all like I'm going to destroy Gotham and Batman goes nooooooo

Riddler's all like I'm going to destroy Gotham and Batman goes cool let me help
I liked this take on Bruce wayne as a fucked up dude who clearly does not sleep enough. Hes still inexperienced and aimless as to what Batman should even be a symbol of.

My favorite part is how he isnt a socialite when hes not being Batman. If anything Bruce wayne is the cover for Batman, and not the other way around.

Idk i just really liked the depiction of a Batman who is still trying to figure shit out


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RetuenOfDevsman
05/01/24 5:17:31 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I liked this take on Bruce wayne as a fucked up dude who clearly does not sleep enough. Hes still inexperienced and aimless as to what Batman should even be a symbol of.

My favorite part is how he isnt a socialite when hes not being Batman. If anything Bruce wayne is the cover for Batman, and not the other way around.

Idk i just really liked the depiction of a Batman who is still trying to figure shit out
That much could have worked if they had done something interesting with it. It was one thing I was actually interested to see pan out. But it didn't really end up going anywhere. *shrugs*

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WarfireX
05/01/24 5:18:31 PM
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It just seems like everyone who talks crap about this movie didn't get what they were going for.

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Prestoff
05/01/24 5:48:34 PM
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Can anyone explain to me if the "ave maria" part was suppose to be funny or be taken seriously...because I'm not sure which reason I should be laughing at the scene for.

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Charged151
05/01/24 5:56:32 PM
#39:


This is the 2022 movie?

While there was a lot good about the movie, Robert Pattinson was not convincing as Bruce Wayne. That hurts it a lot. Also could have used a better main villain than the Riddler.


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RetuenOfDevsman
05/01/24 6:00:47 PM
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Charged151 posted...
This is the 2022 movie?

While there was a lot good about the movie, Robert Pattinson was not convincing as Bruce Wayne. That hurts it a lot. Also could have used a better main villain than the Riddler.
Riddler was a great choice for main villain.

They just did a really bad job with him.

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GuerrillaSoldier
05/02/24 5:46:01 PM
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so i've recently been binging the dceu and any dc related movies and shows because i've just skipped over them for the longest. watched suicide squad and flash and all that.

honestly, the batman scores pretty high compared to all of them. there are a shitload of annoying things, especially their bad obsession and overuse of that song, but still it's pretty quality compared to all the other dc crap recently. it's not really a fantastic movie but it gets that honor at least.


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Notti
05/05/24 7:59:51 AM
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I didn't like the main actors.

Th y couldn't pull it off entertainingly.

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cjsdowg
05/05/24 8:06:12 AM
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He didn't nothing. The Riddler turned himself in, and flooded the city .

WarfireX posted...
Can you guys explain to me how he is a weirdo creeper or that not taking his eyes off of Catwoman while she was changing was out of character?

Yeah Batman watching a women changing isn't a good look.

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Nukazie
05/05/24 8:18:48 AM
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there were cool scenes but too much slow ass scenes that could save me an hour

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Prismsblade
05/05/24 9:00:07 AM
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Riddler was probably the worst written villain in the series so far. With there being no way he could he reasonably pull off half the shit he did beyond dumb luck and contrivance.

Theres also the glaring issue of him doing more good than Batman before the last act with him targeting elites rather than bottom feeding thugs. Something that Batman generally doesn't do even in the comics.

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leonkr41138
05/05/24 9:02:11 AM
#46:


Batman is ok and i have not seen all the movies

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C_Pain
05/05/24 9:12:17 AM
#47:


It probably is objectively a good movie but I just didn't enjoy it that much when I watched it. It just felt so long and kind of boring.

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action52
05/05/24 9:18:07 AM
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The movie was okay but definitely went too long. And the Riddler's plot was easily the weakest part of it. The Blank Check podcast summarized my thoughts very well: the plot feels like it was based on Se7en, but they should have made it more like Die Hard 3.

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TheoryzC
05/05/24 10:30:08 AM
#49:


WarfireX posted...
It just seems like everyone who talks crap about this movie didn't get what they were going for.
I really don't wanna generalize but basically


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