Poll of the Day > More people regret having children than receiving gender-affirming care.

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https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/01/transition-regret-detransitioners/

God I hope this doesn't count as politics because this is hilarious

getting the body you hopefully want/feel comfortable in vs at least 18 years of responsibility and caretaking in a society full of shallow narcissists that don't like thinking about anyone but themselves for more than a few minutes, not really that surprising.

This reminds me of how Jen was saying the other day that parents just want everyone else to be as miserable as they are

Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

This reminds me of how Jen was saying the other day that parents just want everyone else to be as miserable as they are

And I think you will notice that a lot more now that it's been mentioned to you

Wow they overturned it without me appealing

Good

Jen0125 posted...

And I think you will notice that a lot more now that it's been mentioned to you

I think you may be right

It's almost like making a treatment decision after several years of consulting multiple specialists and working through numerous less-invasive/irreversible steps to ensure it's the right decision for you stands a high chance of actually being the right decision for you. I'm not remotely surprised that the rate of regret is lower than decisions that are made more independently and without oversight from anyone to ensure people are as informed as possible before making them.

Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

Wow they overturned it without me appealing

Even the mod staff can't agree on what "politics" means.

Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

I think you may be right

I just saw a tiktok of a woman saying the term "child free" is offensive because it means it's like a negative to have kids. Imagine being so sensitive. Why do you careee. She compared it to other terms like "debt free" and "cancer free" saying we use it as positive and so saying childfree makes parenting seem like a negative.

Jen0125 posted...

I just saw a tiktok of a woman saying the term "child free" is offensive because it means it's like a negative to have kids. Imagine being so sensitive. Why do you careee. She compared it to other terms like "debt free" and "cancer free" saying we use it as positive and so saying childfree makes parenting seem like a negative.

Should've commented that she got to be Money Free as a parent

Jen0125 posted...

I just saw a tiktok of a woman saying the term "child free" is offensive because it means it's like a negative to have kids. Imagine being so sensitive. Why do you careee. She compared it to other terms like "debt free" and "cancer free" saying we use it as positive and so saying childfree makes parenting seem like a negative.

As somebody who enjoys bread, the term "gluten free" is offensive because it implies that gluten is a bad thing.

It's almost like different people have different ideas of what sort of things and experiences they'd like to avoid and express negativity toward those experiences accordingly.

Also "child free" as a term isn't even negative. It's just a logical label for people who don't have children. It's doesn't make a value judgment.

Jen0125 posted...

Also "child free" as a term isn't even negative. It's just a logical label for people who don't have children. It's doesn't make a value judgment.

It is better though

Jen0125 posted...

Also "child free" as a term isn't even negative. It's just a logical label for people who don't have children. It's doesn't make a value judgment.

I'd argue that it's typically used with a value judgement attached, but that's mostly because using the term intrinsically compares being child-free to the alternative, rather than any inherent value attached to the term. It can also go either way. "We've been trying to get pregnant for two years but remain child-free" frames it as a negative. "We're able to go on more vacations because we're child-free" frames it as a positive.

Basically, like "gluten-free," it's a positive for people that want/need to avoid gluten, and either negative of neutral for people that want or don't mind gluten. It all boils down to how you feel about the thing from which you are free.

I'm just a child free person. I have no children. That doesn't make a value judgment and for the life of me I can't imagine why it's offensive. Why is it even offensive to someone who likes to be a parent that someone purposely doesn't want to be one?

adjl posted...

Even the mod staff can't agree on what "politics" means.

I'm just wondering which user here marked this topic in the first place.

To state before hand I realize how low the regret is for trans people is but people who are parents are a much larger percentage of the world and plenty become parents unintentionally where as trans people transition quite intentionally. (I assume 99.9 percent of the time. Can't rule out some off case where they are manipulated or some shit)

So this comes across like a "duh" moment.

Clearly we should ban people from getting pregnant until they've talked to a special therapist with a years-long wait-list, have a year of real life experience in their preferred parental status, reached at least the age of 25, told everyone they're a parent, and pass a (usually deeply misogynistic) doctor's arbitrary vibe check

chelsea___wtf posted...

Clearly we should ban people from getting pregnant until they've talked to a special therapist with a years-long wait-list, have a year of real life experience in their preferred parental status, reached at least the age of 25, told everyone they're a parent, and pass a (usually deeply misogynistic) doctor's arbitrary vibe check

I agree

chelsea___wtf posted...

Clearly we should ban people from getting pregnant until they've talked to a special therapist with a years-long wait-list, have a year of real life experience in their preferred parental status, reached at least the age of 25, told everyone they're a parent, and pass a (usually deeply misogynistic) doctor's arbitrary vibe check

You know, it was oddly very easy to get prescribed HRT here for me. I scheduled an appointment with a specialist (a week out) and she prescribed it to me after our first appointment. I wasn't even presenting fem.