Current Events > Studios are caring less and less about China. Embracing sex and eroticism.

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04/29/24 1:02:46 PM
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Persistant_Fate
04/29/24 3:11:24 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/28/business/media/hollywood-movies-sex-challengers.html

Zendaya, clad in a skintight dress, gyrates on a dance floor in Challengers, a $56 million sports drama that arrived in multiplexes on Friday. Its getting hot in here, the hip-hop soundtrack intones, as she closes her eyes and runs her hands through her hair, lost in fantasy. So take off all your clothes.

The story continues at a motel, where Zendaya, playing a tennis prodigy, begins a mnage trois with two guys; it fizzles after they become more interested in each other. The plot moves on to sultry interplay on the hood of a car, in a dorm room, in the back seat of a car, on the wooden slats of a sauna. There is erotic churro eating.

Sex is back! shouted an elated man at the conclusion of a prerelease Challengers screening in West Hollywood, Calif., this month.

Trend spotting in cinema is a hazardous pursuit. Think about how many times the rom-com has been declared dead and alive and dead. (No, wait, alive.) But this much can be said with surety: Hollywood is hornier than it has been in years.

It absolutely feels like the pendulum has swung back toward filmmakers exploring adult relationships and sexuality in their projects, said Amy Pascal, the former chairwoman of Sony Pictures and producing force behind Challengers.

I welcome that, she added.

Eroticism used to be common in studio movies like Challengers, which was released by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. Body Heat, Basic Instinct, An Officer and a Gentleman, Fatal Attraction, Disclosure, Cruel Intentions and Eyes Wide Shut are among the many examples from the 1980s and 90s.

In the 2000s, however, film companies started to obsessively focus on PG-13 franchises and animation genres that could play to a global audience and sell merchandise. Studios also wanted to expand into China, where censors do not allow sex scenes. As a result, steamy storytelling began to dwindle on the big screen (except at art house theaters). Premium television picked up the slack.

Sex in mainstream movies was pretty much gone by 2019, as Ann Hornaday, chief film critic for The Washington Post, wrote in a column that year. A few months later, Kate Hagen, writing in Playboy magazine, found that only about 1.2 percent of films released between 2010 and 2020 contained an overt sex scene, the lowest decade total since the 1960s. (It peaked in the 1990s. Coincidentally or not, that was the decade when pornography started to become available online.)

Now, some filmmakers are pushing back.

Awards season brought Saltburn, with its arousing-disturbing bathtub scene and Barry Keoghans twirling, full-frontal finale. Poor Things found an insatiable Emma Stone romping through a Paris brothel. Christopher Nolan filmed the first sex scenes of his 35-year career for Oppenheimer. (More interested in the joys of sex than any recent season I can remember, as Kyle Buchanan, awards columnist for The New York Times, described the crop of contenders in February.)

Perhaps contributing a degree of sexual liberation: Studios have stopped chasing China, where ticket buyers have turned against Hollywood movies en masse.

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Persistant_Fate
04/29/24 3:13:35 PM
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Challengers is a fantastic movie btw.

Saw it last week.

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DuneMan
04/29/24 3:14:07 PM
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Persistant_Fate posted...
Perhaps contributing a degree of sexual liberation: Studios have stopped chasing China, where ticket buyers have turned against Hollywood movies en masse.
That should explain things. People's brains can short circuit on this, but if you turn your back on someone they no longer have any incentive to care what you think from that moment onward: your bottomed out opinion isn't going to change regardless of what they do so they simply do as they please.

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ai123
04/29/24 3:14:15 PM
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Wait until they start caring about India instead.

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R_Jackal
04/29/24 3:15:51 PM
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Most sex scenes just look awkward and terrible to me. Dunno, never was a fan of them in huge releases. Not to say they never serve a purpose, but a lot of the time it feels like pointless filler.
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Oderus_Urungus
04/29/24 3:15:55 PM
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ai123 posted...
Wait until they start caring about India instead.

I could go for a dance number.

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LeoRavus
04/29/24 3:17:17 PM
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Family movie nights in the 90s always got awkward when the soft porn sex scenes happened. I really don't care to see it come back in mainstream films.

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masterpug53
04/29/24 3:25:46 PM
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I do look forward to the day when the pendulum swings back and sexual attitudes are no longer dictated by China and / or weird internet prudes. Kinda figure it's still a few years off at best, though; I'm of the opinion that rises in global tensions / fascism directly correlates to people being more reserved about sexual expression, so that latter won't start softening up until the former does.

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Persistant_Fate
04/29/24 3:25:58 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
Family movie nights in the 90s always got awkward when the soft porn sex scenes happened. I really don't care to see it come back in mainstream films.
IMDB has a useful feature to notify you if a film contains any sex.

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YoBlazer
04/29/24 3:33:25 PM
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Zendaya looks like a teenager and I refuse to sexualize her

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LonelyStoner
04/29/24 3:38:33 PM
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Never thought any studio shouldve bent over for China. Also dont care for Zendaya at all, but thats irrelevant to the topic title.

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LonelyStoner
04/29/24 3:39:20 PM
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Persistant_Fate posted...
Challengers is a fantastic movie btw.

Saw it last week.
I seriously cant imagine it being as good as you claim. The trailer and interviews made it look cringey as hell.

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ScazarMeltex
04/29/24 3:39:29 PM
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YoBlazer posted...
Zendaya looks like a teenager and I refuse to sexualize her
She's an adult woman closer to 30 than 20. Should she just never get laid in her life because she has a small frame and looks young?

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DuneMan
04/29/24 3:45:22 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Should she just never get laid in her life because she has a small frame and looks young?
You see that sometimes with petite women. Even if they're in their mid 30's people will stare at them when they go out with their SO in public, casting accusatory gazes at the pair.

At the very least, if they're both consenting adults and fall within the general guidelines of the younger person being at least equal to half the age of the older one plus seven years then people really should just mind their own business.

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masterpug53
04/29/24 4:08:43 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
She's an adult woman closer to 30 than 20. Should she just never get laid in her life because she has a small frame and looks young?

I remember a guy on CE who was adamant that Shauna Rae (aka the woman with pituitary dwarfism who had that TLC show) should never be allowed to date someone for the rest of her life because it made him personally uncomfortable.

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04/29/24 4:09:53 PM
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Eh the only nudity we seem to see in movies these days is men's butts in what seems to be the same camera shot every time.

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trivialbeing
04/29/24 4:12:46 PM
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YoBlazer posted...
Zendaya looks like a teenager and I refuse to sexualize her
she's also ugly

anyways sex scenes are largely unnecessary
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Unsuprised_Pika
04/29/24 4:15:43 PM
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Good.

Even when you design around them they might ban you for the faintest remnant or oversight or just...not allow you to release at all without any reason given.

Fuck any studio that changes any international/domestic script based on China.


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Persistant_Fate
04/29/24 4:50:28 PM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Fuck any studio that changes any international/domestic script based on China.


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DrizztLink
04/29/24 4:54:03 PM
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Eh, I'll be impressed when they stop making it super easy to remove all the LGBT content for foreign audiences.

If this is happening alongside that then fuck yeah, I'm in.

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Robot2600
04/29/24 4:57:23 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Eh, I'll be impressed when they stop making it super easy to remove all the LGBT content for foreign audiences.

If this is happening alongside that then fuck yeah, I'm in.

the movie in question can't have its queer stuff removed...

...but i know what you mean. a 1/12 of a second lesbian kiss that can be removed from star wars as evidence of "how progressive we are" is bullshit.

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LtZim
04/29/24 5:18:29 PM
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ai123 posted...
Wait until they start caring about India instead.
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SpawnShadow
04/29/24 5:32:44 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Eh, I'll be impressed when they stop making it super easy to remove all the LGBT content for foreign audiences.

If this is happening alongside that then fuck yeah, I'm in.
Does it count if they stop including LGBT content altogether (or have only villains be LGBT) in a foolish attempt to appease the domestic far-right?
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LonelyStoner
04/29/24 5:34:48 PM
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Lmao same here

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UndefeatedGOAT
04/29/24 5:34:56 PM
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YoBlazer posted...
Zendaya looks like a teenager and I refuse to sexualize her

how? Cause shes skinny and has good skin?
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