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OudeGeuze
04/29/24 12:23:45 AM
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Just finished Fallout, thots:

Outside of the finale most of this season felt like world building. Episodes 3-6 felt like a side quest to the main plot, so hopefully S2 is it a bit more steered to whatever the end goal is.

Walton Goggins, unsurprisingly, was the star of the show and this got really obvious when sharing the screen with Lucy and Maximus. He ran circles around them with his presence and acting. I knew Lucy as the vault dweller was gonna be a goodie two shows so it'll be fun to watch her naive idealistic self really get the reality of the wasteland. Maximus, cannot stand. Whenever he was supposed to be leading scenes I was just bored. He seems to just luck out into everything and his character is just boring (but then again the Brotherhood really shouldn't exist at this point and I blame Fallout 4 for that). Hopefully they can do some work for him in S2 but he just did nothing for me and I was hoping that the obvious fakeout of him not being dead wasn't going to happen.

I am stoked, however, for season 2 to give us New Vegas. Gonna be weird without the NCR (and presumably Legion), but getting Yes Man and Mr. House will be fun. It's the best game in the series so I'm excited to see where they go with it.

On the flip side of that excitement, it's Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy. Westworld had an amazing first season and turned into dog shit after that, never able to regain its footing and stride after a masterful first season. I hope they learned from their mistakes so I'll be cautiously optimistic for the rest of the series.

Overall, id rate the first season as a strong 6.5/10. It has a great foundation built but now that the world building is done and we have an idea of where the plot is gonna be going I hope they can keep up with the good from the first season while ironing out some of the weaker aspects of it. Definitely one of the better video games adaptations, will tune into the second season mostly for Cooper and how Lucy grows and changes as a character with him leading her through the wasteland.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/29/24 12:28:00 AM
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9.9/10 ftfy
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CervusCanadensi
04/29/24 12:28:36 AM
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Shush
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superben
04/29/24 12:29:10 AM
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I just want to see deathclaws ;(
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Pikachuchupika
04/29/24 12:29:14 AM
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Okie dokie
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CADE_FOSTER
04/29/24 12:29:38 AM
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CervusCanadensi posted...
Shush
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--Zero-
04/29/24 12:31:33 AM
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I gave it a 7/10, but I could agree with a 6.5 too. It's def overhyped.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/29/24 12:31:49 AM
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fake news
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Kurt_Russel
04/29/24 12:33:41 AM
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So, Fallout the first game? Part 2, 4?
Im afraid to click spoilers

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CADE_FOSTER
04/29/24 12:34:03 AM
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the tv series on amazon
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Kim_Seong-a
04/29/24 12:35:30 AM
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In retrospect Maximus was a bit weird. He oscillates between competent rookie with a chip on his shoulder to helpless dumbass every other scene. Thought he was gonna pick up after he had that moment with the raiders trying to take his power armor, but he just kept being meh. >_>

I don't hate him, but he's easily the weakest of the three so far, which is a shame because I think the actor does a decent enough job with what he's given.

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OudeGeuze
04/29/24 12:53:35 AM
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Kurt_Russel posted...
So, Fallout the first game? Part 2, 4?
Im afraid to click spoilers
The show

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NPC
04/29/24 1:06:05 AM
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I thought the most interesting part of the show happened in the vaults, like the situation with vault 31.

Overall I'd give it an 8.5, I enjoyed it.
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Guns_of_Verdun
04/29/24 1:07:59 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
In retrospect Maximus was a bit weird. He oscillates between competent rookie with a chip on his shoulder to helpless dumbass every other scene. Thought he was gonna pick up after he had that moment with the raiders trying to take his power armor, but he just kept being meh. >_>

I don't hate him, but he's easily the weakest of the three so far, which is a shame because I think the actor does a decent enough job with what he's given.
Yeah they never seemed to know what the fuck to do with Maximus.

I like that all the characters are written to have flaws but Maximus' character seemed to alternate from scene to scene.

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OudeGeuze
04/29/24 1:18:07 AM
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I think the biggest thing that I don't get is how they didn't recognize everyone from Vault 32 was dead and were replaced by raiders. It's revealed all 3 vaults are interconnected and that 31 is full of Vault Tec execs asleep and that 32 was also controlled by 31. They do the trade every 3 years so surely Hank or someone should have realized that the raider party wasn't vault 32.

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Baha05
04/29/24 1:21:32 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
In retrospect Maximus was a bit weird. He oscillates between competent rookie with a chip on his shoulder to helpless dumbass every other scene. Thought he was gonna pick up after he had that moment with the raiders trying to take his power armor, but he just kept being meh. >_>

I don't hate him, but he's easily the weakest of the three so far, which is a shame because I think the actor does a decent enough job with what he's given.
From a fan theory someone mentioned its likely he has the idiot savant perk.

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Nukazie
04/29/24 1:27:35 AM
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just like the games after new vegas!

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ninjaman44
04/29/24 2:01:31 AM
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Kinda disappointed with the series but I'm still glad it was made and seems to be getting a lot of love. Hopefully this encourages Microsoft to get another game developed sometime this decade.
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Back_Stabbath
04/29/24 2:04:25 AM
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superben posted...
I just want to see deathclaws ;(

the yao guai looked like shit but the gulper looked ok, hope they can do it justice

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Null_Gain
04/29/24 2:28:34 AM
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superben posted...
I just want to see deathclaws ;(

Are they going to be (albeit impressive looking) pushovers like in Fallout 4 or are they going to be the unholy terrors they were in FO3: New Vegas?

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008Zulu
04/29/24 2:33:16 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
Episodes 3-6 felt like a side quest to the main plot, so hopefully S2 is it a bit more steered to whatever the end goal is.
That was the entire point of those episodes. It was meant to mimic that in the games, players got easily distracted by sidequests.

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OudeGeuze
04/29/24 2:41:14 AM
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008Zulu posted...
That was the entire point of those episodes. It was meant to mimic that in the games, players got easily distracted by sidequests.
Sure, but this is live action, not a video game.

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008Zulu
04/29/24 3:41:45 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
Sure, but this is live action, not a video game.
For it to be a faithful adaption of the games, and not some generic post-apocalyptic rehash, they had to embrace everything done in the games.

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pegusus123456
04/29/24 3:57:27 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
I think the biggest thing that I don't get is how they didn't recognize everyone from Vault 32 was dead and were replaced by raiders. It's revealed all 3 vaults are interconnected and that 31 is full of Vault Tec execs asleep and that 32 was also controlled by 31. They do the trade every 3 years so surely Hank or someone should have realized that the raider party wasn't vault 32.
I don't think they actually communicate that much. My impression is that they speak every three years or whenever there's an emergency.

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NoxObscuras
04/29/24 4:03:21 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
I knew Lucy as the vault dweller was gonna be a goodie two shows so it'll be fun to watch her naive idealistic self really get the reality of the wasteland. Maximus, cannot stand. Whenever he was supposed to be leading scenes I was just bored. He seems to just luck out into everything and his character is just boring
I actually really liked Maximus as a character. He is naive too, just in a completely different way than Lucy. He knows how terrible the wasteland is, but he also spent a majority of his life being indoctrinated by the brotherhood. So a lot of this was eye opening for him as well. Hell, he doesn't even know about sex.

Null_Gain posted...
Are they going to be (albeit impressive looking) pushovers like in Fallout 4 or are they going to be the unholy terrors they were in FO3: New Vegas?
Probably pushovers, given how fast that Yao Gaui died. But it would be hilarious if Death Claws were how they were in New Vegas. "Oh thank God, we got away from that monstrosity. There's no way it will get us in here." *Death Claw proceeds to open the door*

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pegusus123456
04/29/24 4:09:37 AM
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NoxObscuras posted...
I actually really liked Maximus as a character. He is naive too, just in a completely different way than Lucy. He knows how terrible the wasteland is, but he also spent a majority of his life being indoctrinated by the brotherhood. So a lot of this was eye opening for him as well. Hell, he doesn't even know about sex.
I don't think Maximus is indoctrinated and naive, I think he's just genuinely dumb. Chastity is evidently not a requirement for the Brotherhood because we see one of the aspirants is jerking it in a room full of people. I also doubt he'd have picked up "make my cock explode" from a virginal order.

And from what we see of the Brotherhood, he's the only one like that.

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OudeGeuze
04/29/24 6:15:41 PM
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Bump

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MorbidFaithless
04/29/24 6:28:24 PM
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I think Maximus is my favorite character. Aaron Moten steals the show imo. Love his acting.

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B18Champ
04/29/24 6:32:23 PM
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I think it was at best a 6/10. Could have been a lot better.

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MrKapowski
04/29/24 7:01:38 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I don't think they actually communicate that much. My impression is that they speak every three years or whenever there's an emwhelping.

Hank should have recognized Moldaver


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pegusus123456
04/29/24 7:28:20 PM
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MrKapowski posted...
Hank should have recognized Moldaver
Why?

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Prestoff
04/29/24 7:41:53 PM
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Disagree, it was a 9/10 for me personally. Maximus ended up being one of my favorite. The Ghoul was only good because the performance was heavily carried by Walton Goggins, but his character ended doing soo many shit that basically makes his character unrepentant. I hope he doesn't get a "redemption" arc and gets killed off in a violent way.

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epik_fail1
04/29/24 7:42:45 PM
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I personally really enjoy it

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KnightofShikari
04/29/24 7:50:13 PM
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so how and why did moldaver lead some raiders into the vault? she seemed to be a prominent person in the NCR, so why not take NCR troops instead of wild raiders?

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OudeGeuze
04/29/24 7:52:59 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...
so how and why did moldaver lead some raiders into the vault? she seemed to be a prominent person in the NCR, so why not take NCR troops instead of wild raiders?
because hank nuked shady sands and in new vegas, it basically says throughout the game the NCR is on the verge of collapse. its very likely between the war in the mojave and shady sands getting nuked that the NCR is gone, which is fucking stupid since the BoS still exists in a now stronger form

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MrKapowski
04/29/24 8:20:35 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Why?

Because he was a Vault Tec big wig and she was the creator of that cold fusion tech that Vault Tec bought to kill.

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Yazarogi
04/29/24 8:44:07 PM
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The Yao Guai got 1shot because it took a .50 round to the dome.

That just happens from time to time.

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pegusus123456
04/29/24 10:05:47 PM
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MrKapowski posted...
Because he was a Vault Tec big wig and she was the creator of that cold fusion tech that Vault Tec bought to kill.
He was not a Vault-Tech big wig, he was an executive assistant.

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008Zulu
04/30/24 3:05:54 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
so how and why did moldaver lead some raiders into the vault? she seemed to be a prominent person in the NCR, so why not take NCR troops instead of wild raiders?
Cooper found out that his wife was the mastermind of The End of The World. Cooper attended a meeting run by Moldaver. It is reasonable to assume that Cooper informed on his wife to Moldaver, who then immediately got a job at Vault Tec, with the goal of surviving past the bombs so that she could ensure the company's plans for humanity would not come to fruition. She started a relationship with Hank's wife, and got her to leave so they could find the secret for cold fusion. Upon finding it, they learned that Hank had the codes for it, so Moldaver went back in to the Vault with the fabricated story about the wheat blight in order to kidnap him.

This theory explains why no one was surprised to see her in the Vault, and the look on Hank's face when he saw her leading the Raiders.

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Monopoman
04/30/24 3:35:49 AM
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Yazarogi posted...
The Yao Guai got 1shot because it took a .50 round to the dome.

That just happens from time to time.

Shit with a head shot and crit from any good weapon in New Vegas most enemies have their head explode off their body.

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Back_Stabbath
04/30/24 4:05:53 AM
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i clapped when the brother hacked the overseers terminal and the hacking screen from the game showed up

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pegusus123456
04/30/24 4:21:47 AM
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Monopoman posted...
Shit with a head shot and crit from any good weapon in New Vegas most enemies have their head explode off their body.
And fuck Bethesda's "official" SPECIAL stats, Maximus obviously has 10 Luck, so he'd be the one to get the crit.

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MrKapowski
04/30/24 7:48:08 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
He was not a Vault-Tech big wig, he was an executive assistant.

Okay? If anything, that makes it more likely he'd know who she was.

Furthermore, how the fuck was she still alive? I don't think it was mentioned. Was she frozen in 31? Did she have her own cryo pods?



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LonelyStoner
04/30/24 7:51:19 AM
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superben posted...
I just want to see deathclaws ;(
And super mutants.

Thise were really the only two disappointments for me with the show. Absolutely loved the first season, though.

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pegusus123456
04/30/24 7:52:06 AM
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MrKapowski posted...


Okay? If anything, that makes it more likely he'd know who she was.
Why? Moldaver worked for companies that were bought by Vault-Tec, it's not like she was working independently and sold her research. And it's not like Hank was in charge of buying companies.

MrKapowski posted...
Furthermore, how the fuck was she still alive? I don't think it was mentioned. Was she frozen in 31? Did she have her own cryo pods?
No, that's not explained.

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OudeGeuze
04/30/24 10:15:02 AM
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LonelyStoner posted...
And super mutants.

Thise were really the only two disappointments for me with the show. Absolutely loved the first season, though.
Can't really pop their wad on everything immediately. We see a death claw skull anyways and it's hinted that in a blink and you'll miss it scene in the first episode there's a dead super mutant

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LonelyStoner
04/30/24 10:18:37 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
Can't really pop their wad on everything immediately. We see a death claw skull anyways and it's hinted that in a blink and you'll miss it scene in the first episode there's a dead super mutant
No, I get that. I was just wanting to see at least one of the two.

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masterpug53
04/30/24 10:24:28 AM
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I actually appreciated their restraint in not using Super Mutants in the first season (outside of the Easter egg). And considering that the show ended up being fairly respectful to West Coast lore in spite of being Bethesda-brand Fallout, I am crossing my fingers that they'll bring back Marcus to introduce Lucy / new viewers to the concept in s2.

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ClayGuida
04/30/24 10:26:10 AM
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I bet tc rates breaking bad as a 10/10 and thinks it was the greatest finale ever.

That or big bang theory.

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ANort
04/30/24 10:27:14 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
i clapped when the brother hacked the overseers terminal and the hacking screen from the game showed up
Yeah I loved that part.

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