Current Events > The amount of police force being used on students protesting is insane

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My bad that does read a little crazy

I'm saying we haven't seen large scale protests since George Floyd mostly due to the way COVID works. Hong Kong's opposition to coming under Chinese rule in 2019 was the last full-scale protest we've seen since COVID began. I'm saying that because we haven't seen a serious protest on a national scale since then it hits a bit harder than it does otherwise. But I don't believe police are necessarily in the wrong for keeping the peace because Jewish people and Zionists do attend the school and their safety should be taken into account.

People have been opposed to protesting on a large scale because a lot of protesters have gotten sick during the George Floyd protests.

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They were defintiely on the wrong side at first but when Federal Law was enacted they did protect Ruby Bridges

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I'm not pro-police I'm just not a hater. The question was have they ever been on the right side of history? Answer is yes

Jaguar34 posted...

But I don't believe police are necessarily in the wrong for keeping the peace because Jewish people and Zionists do attend the school and their safety should be taken into account.

The police are clearly causing the violence. They're not "keeping the peace". From all eyewitness accounts and videos these protests were largely peaceful across the board even when instigated prior to police involvement.

Imagine if even a quarter of this response happened during 1/6.

Nah, better terrorize student protesters instead.

Why do people dislike the police btw?

Umbreon posted...

Imagine if even a quarter of this response happened during 1/6.

Nah, better terrorize student protesters instead.

Why do people dislike the police btw?

Seriously. They brutalize these protesters but stood around scratching their heads during the Nazi riot because maybe attempting to violently overthrow the government was just them exercising their free speech.

Jaguar34 posted...

I'm not pro-police

Sure, you're not. /sarcasm

"Oh you're peacefully protesting? Don't mind us! We're just gonna stand near you in full armor and brandish weapons. No, no, we don't think you'll get violent. We're just making sure the peace is kept! Now don't get upset, but we may get even closer to you. Easy now, we're just trying to ease the tension. But we may have to start using a bit of totally peaceful force if you don't stay calm and move away."

hockeybabe89 posted...

You hate trans people. Shut the fuck up.

I love how they regularly melt the fuck down if you even dare talk about Trump in a topic about voting for Biden

But then just casually derails this topic with that trash.

Yea anyways this response to the protests is beyond excessive

Jaguar34 posted...

But I don't believe police are necessarily in the wrong for keeping the peace because Jewish people and Zionists do attend the school and their safety should be taken into account.

What about the Jewish people in the protest that the police are brutalizing? Fuck them, right?

Also, what's your source that Jewish and Zionist people attending the school are unsafe?

Jaguar34 posted...

My bad that does read a little crazy

I'm saying we haven't seen large scale protests since George Floyd mostly due to the way COVID works. Hong Kong's opposition to coming under Chinese rule in 2019 was the last full-scale protest we've seen since COVID began. I'm saying that because we haven't seen a serious protest on a national scale since then it hits a bit harder than it does otherwise. But I don't believe police are necessarily in the wrong for keeping the peace because Jewish people and Zionists do attend the school and their safety should be taken into account.

People have been opposed to protesting on a large scale because a lot of protesters have gotten sick during the George Floyd protests.

there were massive BLM protests DURING COVID, including the one where Rittenhouse killed a dude.

Yeah there's been no indication of any violence from the protestors. Just so stupid to enflame the situation by having the cops move in.

Fucking pigs

republicans dont believe in free speech they continually lie peaceful protests should be allowed

It's what they do and what they always do. They exist as a concept to maintain borders, social hierarchies, break strikes, and destroy protests and social movements. That's been the only real constant in their role since they were invented.

They do it reflexively, even if they have no personal dog in the fight. Like how many of these cops really care about Israel, Zionism, campus safety etc? Likely very few, but they will brutalize whoever they're told to brutalize.

shockthemonkey posted...

Jan 6 was a perfect example of how police dont have to escalate tensions and how they can reduce harm to people,

They barely avoided Mike Pence from being killed.

It's very hard to find protests here in Vegas but I'm keeping my ear to the ground. Might take my camera out if something pops up. I have a few community events I'm shooting in May, one Pro-Palestine event (not really a protest more like an organized rally/speech type thing) and an indigenous landback event. I'm trying to document this stuff between gigs whenever they'll have me.

shockthemonkey posted...

Shut the fuck up, ROD

Fuck off, sillyknees.

Where was this response in Uvalde? Oh wait the right is fine with schools being shot up

https://twitter.com/readytoescalate/status/1783507823856410656

nekrodev posted...

there were massive BLM protests DURING COVID, including the one where Rittenhouse killed a dude.

They weren't close to being as impactful as this in terms of scale, potential influence and number of people involved, wouldn't you agree? Don't you think this is a "bigger protest" overall?

1/6, abortion rights, the protests we've had since COVID began are small potatoes compared to this. People died during 1/6 but we aren't hearing that in the US yet in regards to these protests. That's a good thing, I think.

emblem-man posted...

Yeah there's been no indication of any violence from the protestors. Just so stupid to enflame the situation by having the cops move in.

Pro-Israel folk are probably calling the police and university and indicating they feel unsafe. It's possible for that to be true and the protesters to also be non-violent. If that's the case police being present makes sense

I'm saying is this isn't as bad as it could be. This isn't Kent State, Ferguson after Michael Brown or Charlottesville. Not yet at least. I've seen worse in the last decade. Is it still unacceptable? Maybe. I been watching this since Feb and I think the protesters and police have done a good job even though things have gotten worse over there. I've seen both sides be terrible at what they do. We aren't seeing police cars getting flipped over or riots yet.

I think what's different is protesters have mostly taken place during Ramadan and many of the Muslim protesters are great at showing restraint and encouraging others to do so.

RndmNmber1 posted...

And genocide supporters are cheering on this

Palestine protesters wont get any sympathy from me.

Man they are totally fine with hurting americans during peaceful protests gotta vote all these people out

Jaguar34 posted...

They weren't close to being as impactful as this in terms of scale, potential influence and number of people involved, wouldn't you agree? Don't you think this is a "bigger protest" overall?

Not even close. The BLM protests were massive compared these protests. They didn't have as much influence as we would have liked, but the impact and scale was there.

Yeah the BLM protests were covering multiple major city blocks in multiple major cities at around the same time. Kinda dwarfs these protests in size.

Jaguar34 posted...

Pro-Israel folk are probably calling the police and university and indicating they feel unsafe. It's possible for that to be true and the protesters to also be non-violent. If that's the case police being present makes sense

It's a protest and it's very easy for it to become messy and out of control. I'm sure some students have heard outrageous comments and do feel uncomfortable and I feel for them. And honestly, in past protests of the recent years, feeling uncomfortable has given people the sense that that's the same as being unsafe...but they're wrong. And the school admin should not call the police unless actual violence looks like it will happen.

hockeybabe89 posted...

"Oh you're peacefully protesting? Don't mind us! We're just gonna stand near you in full armor and brandish weapons. No, no, we don't think you'll get violent. We're just making sure the peace is kept! Now don't get upset, but we may get even closer to you. Easy now, we're just trying to ease the tension. But we may have to start using a bit of totally peaceful force if you don't stay calm and move away."

"Also, we technically can't arrest you if you stay on the grass. Just stay there while we tape off the area for your safety...uh oh! You took one step onto the sidewalk! Gosh, now we have to arrest you for obstructing a passageway and...oh! Your hand grazed me while I was pushing through the crowd! That's a big no no friend, I'm starting to feel a little threatened..."

Cops have a vested interest in portraying the populations they police as rioutous, out of control, in need of a billy club to beat them back. What we're seeing here is an attempt by police departments and powerful institutions to replay the 2020 protests but with a license to violently put them down.

Much like arms dealers, the police thrive on the idea that they are necessary. If it is observed that they aren't as necessary, they will create situations where they are.

Idc for the protests and dont care enough to read if any students were being problematic, but why go this hard on students who are protesting at their own university and not ones locking themselves up in chains on highways/bridges causing actual public disturbance?

Notice how they dont treat the neo nazis in this country like this they are given freedom of movement and right to protest crazy

https://twitter.com/Newyorkist/status/1782879723833487630

legendary_zell posted...

It's what they do and what they always do. They exist as a concept to maintain borders, social hierarchies, break strikes, and destroy protests and social movements. That's been the only real constant in their role since they were invented.

They do it reflexively, even if they have no personal dog in the fight. Like how many of these cops really care about Israel, Zionism, campus safety etc? Likely very few, but they will brutalize whoever they're told to brutalize.

This. They exist to be the establishment's boot on the neck of anyone who opposes it.

This will absolutely end with people dead in a Kent State Luke scenario and the media will cover it as though the protestors deserve it.

CADE_FOSTER posted...

Notice how they dont treat the neo nazis in this country like this they are given freedom of movement and right to protest crazy

In fairness, it's because the neo Nazis are too dumb to get into these schools, so they couldn't organize extended disruptive demonstrations.

tankboy posted...

In fairness, it's because the neo Nazis are too dumb to get into these schools, so they couldn't organize extended disruptive demonstrations.

You're forgetting about legacies, but then again those types don't usually do a lot of protesting.

https://twitter.com/PatrickQuinnTV/status/1783532600637681964

Aloc posted...

I mean. It's pretty obvious why they are banning tiktok.

The example you were responding to here is a graph of popular hashtags supporting Palestine. Do you really think the reason TiKTok is being banned is that it allows for hashtags to go viral?

Are you aware of any other social media sites that measure vitality with hashtags?

Any others?

Yet my university condones religious nuts coming onto the campus to preach hate against the LGBTQ+ community while classes are in session.

There's an amendment for this sort of thing.

athlon posted...

The example you were responding to here is a graph of popular hashtags supporting Palestine. Do you really think the reason TiKTok is being banned is that it allows for hashtags to go viral?

Are you aware of any other social media sites that measure vitality with hashtags?

Any others?

They want to ban TikTok because the US does not control it.

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As an institution, no. I do remember one or two cops joining either OWS or BLM in full uniform.

Super rare, though, and never as an organization.

Jaguar34 posted...

Happened during the George Floyd protests and that was pre-vaccine.

That's disinformation.

Protesters did not get sick at higher rates. And their communicability (?) rates didn't show a statistical increase, either.

No surges or spikes in coronoavirus were recorded as a result of protests in June 2020 and beyond. You can watch the headlines and the science evolve in real time with just a Google search.

Trump did the same thing. They're all the same. You guys just don't want to admit it and think your golden boy is perfect.

Jaguar34 posted...

I'm saying we haven't seen large scale protests since George Floyd mostly due to the way COVID works.

You started out strong. Even with a mea culpa. Good on you.

Jaguar34 posted...

because a lot of protesters have gotten sick during the George Floyd protests.

But that didn't happen, despite everyone's fears about it. You went back and said the same thing.

Dude.

Rexdragon125 posted...

Where was this response in Uvalde? Oh wait the right is fine with schools being shot up

I'd argue that the same response was in Uvalde. After all, they were tackling and arresting parents trying to end the violence and stop more innocent people from getting hurt, while all the time doing something that let more people get hurt.

Might be stretching it, though, even to make that rhetorical point.