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Dungeater 04/24/24 7:40:56 PM #51: |
Evening_Dragon posted...
Fine but it's where Kari Wahlgren got her start and she's the bees knees>_> --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 04/24/24 7:42:01 PM #52: |
pretzelcoatl posted...
There are only four good English dubs:Fake Love is War is one of the best dubs ever made --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9-13900k | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonGear80 04/24/24 7:42:33 PM #53: |
pretzelcoatl posted...
The complaint department is closed, please try again another day no too bad you chose to open for business now it's gonna be booming. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/24/24 8:31:56 PM #54: |
bumo
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MagiMarthKoopa 04/24/24 8:57:49 PM #55: |
absolutebuffoon posted... Sub is a great example of them all sounding like three year olds.Not all of them. Purple Heart and Vert, and most of the supporting cast, are normal. Just Nep and the Imoutos are the squeaky ones ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dabrikishaw15 04/24/24 9:03:52 PM #56: |
At a fundamental level I don't take this complaint seriously because it's always made by someone who doesn't understand Japanese. They mistake their inability to tell bad voice acting in a language they don't know for being better acted.
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Dungeater 04/24/24 9:05:24 PM #57: |
Dabrikishaw15 posted...
At a fundamental level I don't take this complaint seriously because it's always made by someone who doesn't understand Japanese. They mistake their inability to tell bad voice acting in a language they don't know for being better acted.im not talking about "acting" im talking about the voices themselves people always like to say this line, they like this line so much in fact they use it when it isnt relevant --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonGear80 04/24/24 9:06:18 PM #58: |
Dungeater posted...
im not talking about "acting" you know why it's called "Voice ACTING", right? --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/24/24 9:06:56 PM #59: |
CrimsonGear80 posted...
you know why it's called "Voice ACTING", right?yes. can u like, actually read what im saying though and not try for unrelated gotchas i mean the literal sound --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkDaLunatic 04/24/24 9:12:25 PM #60: |
I can deal with most but the "ultra-moe" voice that some characters have is super difficult to power through. This is actually from a game, but it's the worst example I can think of and always springs to mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfX37R0O4a8 Whenever a character with this voice checks in, it's time to check out. Nobody sounds like this naturally, in the history of forever, including today. It's a voice that only exists in anime. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frosted_Midna 04/24/24 9:37:08 PM #61: |
I just like a good voice acting, either English or Japanese.
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ssjevot 04/24/24 9:44:51 PM #62: |
The closest thing I watch to subs, would be the Japanese subs on a broadcast. I have heard English dubs before though and especially in games am familiar with English voice acting. The quality is often worse in English, but that's because the industry isn't taken seriously for the most part. I encourage you to watch a documentary on voice acting in Japan. It isn't reading lines in a booth. You have the whole cast together in a big room reacting off each other and a director giving guidance. They do multiple takes, the actors have read the lines many times ahead of time and thought about how their character acts, they are familiar with the show and extremely engaged with the fan base. Most importantly they are paid a lot more.
So the issue with English dubs is you really need someone to naturally be good and self-motivated because the actual production is bare bones and the pay is shit. I was at an anime convention where Steve Blum had a panel. Someone asked him what he thought about Cowboy Bebop. He said he hasn't ever seen it, or any of the anime he voice acts in because he doesn't have the time. And he's a pretty good English actor. A statement like that in Japan would end your career. Fans would be outraged. It's just a totally different industry here. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocileOrangeCup 04/24/24 9:45:11 PM #63: |
Anime dubs peaked in the 90s when it was just Sandra the voice director's wife voicing half the cast in her normal speaking voice.
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PraetorXyn 04/24/24 9:50:07 PM #64: |
ssjevot posted...
The closest thing I watch to subs, would be the Japanese subs on a broadcast. I have heard English dubs before though and especially in games am familiar with English voice acting. The quality is often worse in English, but that's because the industry isn't taken seriously for the most part. I encourage you to watch a documentary on voice acting in Japan. It isn't reading lines in a booth. You have the whole cast together in a big room reacting off each other and a director giving guidance. They do multiple takes, the actors have read the lines many times ahead of time and thought about how their character acts, they are familiar with the show and extremely engaged with the fan base. Most importantly they are paid a lot more.This is the crux of the matter. All that Yiu just dont understand Japanese to know its just as bad! stuff is bullshit. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CervusCanadensi 04/24/24 9:54:01 PM #65: |
Dungeater posted... its like 95% of guys too, but i straight up havent heard a dub chick who didnt sound awfulJust keep staring at words instead of the rest of the art? Yeah dubs are the way to go unless you know the language 110% and don't need a single word of subtitle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/24/24 9:55:44 PM #66: |
CervusCanadensi posted...
Just keep staring at words instead of the rest of the art?ive got subtitles on either way. takes very little time to read a line, and its not as if the entire screen goes blank when you read the words what a half assed thing to say --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 04/24/24 9:56:09 PM #67: |
pretzelcoatl posted...
There are only four good English dubs:This is just the anime version of boomerposting tbqh --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonGear80 04/24/24 10:04:14 PM #69: |
Dungeater posted...
yes. can u like, actually read what im saying though and not try for unrelated gotchas ....OK AND?? --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonGear80 04/24/24 10:06:16 PM #71: |
how can you not understand that how they sound is still ACTING?
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Dungeater 04/24/24 10:07:08 PM #72: |
i dont kno how to make it any simpler for u. if u dont understand what im saying u dont understand what im saying
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Dungeater 04/24/24 10:12:24 PM #74: |
thanks bud
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DrizztLink 04/24/24 10:13:59 PM #75: |
CrimsonGear80 posted...
how can you not understand that how they sound is still ACTING?Dude. Shut the fuck up. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PaperSplash 04/24/24 10:17:15 PM #76: |
When it comes to doing a typical "anime girl" voice in particular it's almost impossible for English dubbers to please everybody. If they try imitating how those voices sound in Japanese (as is the typical norm now) it can sound "fake" and grating to a lot of people, yeah. But in cases where they try to go for something more natural sounding in English, the voice actors often get accused of sounding too old or otherwise unfitting for their characters. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 04/24/24 10:38:48 PM #77: |
Dungeater posted...
every woman in personaI think the dubs in Persona sound fine. My only gripe was changing Chie's voice from cool and calm in the original to the hyper, bubbly girl we have now in Golden. I'm guessing that's the kind of VA's you mean? The over-exaggerated ones that try to carry over Japanese mannerisms into English. Beveren_Rabbit posted... sub vs dub is dumb. if you aren't a Japanese speaker you have a bias for subs because you don't realize how cartoony/exaggerated Japanese voice acting can be dumb at times. Not saying dubs are always better, but the realize why it sounds off because you actually understand English and can detect the minor nuances better.I personally prefer subs because the dialogue is closer to the original than with dubs. With subs, you just have to deal with any changes the localization team feels wouldn't make sense to western audiences. But with dubs, lines can be completely different because they're also focused on making the lines have a similar number of syllables to the mouth movements. That said though, some dubs are fantastic, regardless of dialogue changes. Dungeater posted... also i havent seen much animeYou should fix that. Tons of great anime out there. pretzelcoatl posted... There are only four good English dubs:I agree with all of those except for Naruto (the dub constantly saying "believe it" was annoying as hell). But there's way more than 4 good english dubs: Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z Cowboy Bebop Yu Yu Hakusho Ghost in the Shell Big O FLCL Full Metal Alchemist/Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood Black Lagoon Code Geass Death Note Stein's Gate Baccano (it's about mobsters in 1930's Chicago, the dub nails the accents) 91 Days (another one about mobsters that nails the accents) Ghost Stories (the official dub is hilariously unhinged and feels like an abridged dub) Ascendance of a Bookworm Eighty Six And that's not even counting any good dubs that I just haven't watched. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aztex 04/24/24 10:44:05 PM #78: |
It's all terrible mostly because of the dialogue but any language comes of as corny you just don't understand it so it sounds better to you
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Silver_Ogre 04/24/24 10:48:40 PM #79: |
NoxObscuras posted... Code GeassThis is not a good dub. C.C. and Kallen are both pretty bad. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/24/24 10:50:50 PM #80: |
NoxObscuras posted...
You should fix that. Tons of great anime out there.i watch some here and there but im not particularly interested. aint a problem to fix also the DBZ dub is flat out bad. ocean dub is ok but OG funi Z sucks shit from a butt kai is sweet tho --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 04/24/24 10:58:35 PM #81: |
Silver_Ogre posted...
This is not a good dub. C.C. and Kallen are both pretty bad.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/24eebab0.jpg --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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80GearCrimson 04/24/24 11:19:58 PM #82: |
Wherethisfeom posted...
He understands all of this. It's called a personal preference. He simply does not like the way it sounds. Anyway, block Crimson TC. He's a worse user than Beveren. DrizztLink posted... Dude. what a couple of literal soft-ass bullies. Grow up. Dungeater posted... i dont kno how to make it any simpler for u. if u dont understand what im saying u dont understand what im saying I understand your reasoning isn't great. You made that clear when you said every woman in Persona didn't sound good... --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rouge City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 04/24/24 11:22:38 PM #83: |
80GearCrimson posted...
what a couple of literal soft-ass bullies. Grow up.Says the guy openly insulting TC for not liking specific dubs. You've got all the self-awareness of a cactus, doncha? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 04/24/24 11:24:26 PM #84: |
Another sub vs dub debate. If you like sub then go watch that. If you like dub then go watch that. No need to convince others to join you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/24/24 11:42:06 PM #85: |
this is not a sub vs dub debate
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Delirious_Beard 04/24/24 11:49:51 PM #86: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
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80GearCrimson 04/24/24 11:51:52 PM #87: |
DrizztLink posted...
Says the guy openly insulting TC for not liking specific dubs. where did I insult him? point out ONE insult I made. you guys need to accept that not everyone is going to agree with your opinions and that throwing tantrums because of it makes you look bad. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rouge City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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80GearCrimson 04/24/24 11:52:16 PM #88: |
Dungeater posted...
this is not a sub vs dub debate dude come on... --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rouge City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 04/24/24 11:53:53 PM #90: |
https://youtu.be/ZBEibR3zG5U?si=T0_bpU6NeYdDF3FG
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pretzelcoatl 04/24/24 11:54:29 PM #91: |
NoxObscuras posted... I think the dubs in Persona sound fine. My only gripe was changing Chie's voice from cool and calm in the original to the hyper, bubbly girl we have now in Golden. I'm guessing that's the kind of VA's you mean? The over-exaggerated ones that try to carry over Japanese mannerisms into English.Forgot about Code Geass and and Cowboy Bebop. Just recently bought Ghost Stories on Blu-ray, I feel like there's a ticking timer on how long that anime will be around before being scrubbed from streaming services forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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80GearCrimson 04/24/24 11:56:00 PM #92: |
Wherethisfeom posted...
Says the guy who uses an alt to bypass blocks to continue harassing someone which is juvenile and unhinged behaviour. you begged a guy to block me because you didn't like my opinions and the other one told me to "shut the fuck up". don't lecture anyone else on juvenile behavior. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rouge City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 04/25/24 12:22:41 AM #94: |
pretzelcoatl posted...
Forgot about Code Geass and and Cowboy Bebop.Yeah it sucks that licensing issues cause some anime to just disappear from streaming. A lot of the older ones go out of print and end up costing a fortune to get a dvd/bluray copy too. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/25/24 1:11:57 AM #95: |
he's blocked again
literally never noticed that guy what's his deal --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 04/25/24 1:24:31 AM #96: |
Female voice actors are generally better tbh. Just take a look at most Sentai dubs. The males are abhorrent but the females are passable at worst ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/25/24 1:26:41 AM #97: |
Sentai?
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Axiom 04/25/24 1:28:45 AM #98: |
The other dub company. They have some of the worst official English dubs imaginable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 04/25/24 1:30:22 AM #99: |
As others have said, I feel like a lot of the worst ones later are the youtuber/vtuber voice actors who basically just mimic the super tropey voices
I feel like the only 2 that are alright that I know of are AmaLee and I guess that Alejandro Saab guy. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 04/25/24 7:36:16 AM #100: |
Dungeater posted... this is not a sub vs dub debateYou made a topic to specifically bash dubbed content, and implied 95% of it is awful. 95%? Topics like this across many platforms and comments section are very old at this point with with people who like the subs over the dubs. Intent in these types of comments/topics are always the same. Either looking for an echo chamber to agree, or looking to spark a response from those who enjoy the dubs, or both. Skimmed through the topic and given its heavily implied you blocked beveren for pointing out the elephant in the room, sounds like it's the, both option. If you like subbed more than dubbed then just watch subbed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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