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nekrodev 04/23/24 8:26:00 AM #51:	Baron_Ox posted... I dunno, I feel like this is different. like, I guess I can understand how it might affect the image of metal - marketing things that might not be metal as metal, but idk if it would hurt the actual music. oh, it is different, absolutely - and i also don' think it would hurt the quality of the actual metal music, but what it would do is just make any kind of specialized website / message board about the topic insufferable. basically all of the major "metal" publications online are already ruined due to this - but there's still great music being made. --- "To be, or not to be - there is no such question. To be! But to be what...?" FFBE friend ID - 432.640.287 - nekrodev <cite>nekrodev posted [p:980051205] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>I dunno, I feel like this is different. like, I guess I can understand how it might affect the image of metal - marketing things that might not be metal as metal, but idk if it would hurt the actual music.</quote>oh, it is different, absolutely - and i also don' think it would hurt the quality of the actual metal music, but what it would do is just make any kind of specialized website / message board about the topic insufferable. basically all of the major "metal" publications online are already ruined due to this - but there's still great music being made. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 04/23/24 8:26:33 AM #52:	ssjevot posted... Actually metal is a good example of gate keeping. It used to have a Nazi problem and then people started gate keeping them out of the community and that was a good thing. To be fair here, gatekeeping Nazis out of your hobby/job/anything is something I think most people can universally agree on as a good thing. Gatekeeping random Joe's out of a video game series doesn't accomplish much though, as more money going on to a game series usually just means getting more of those games. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:980051211] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite><quote>Actually metal is a good example of gate keeping. It used to have a Nazi problem and then people started gate keeping them out of the community and that was a good thing.</quote>To be fair here, gatekeeping Nazis out of your hobby/job/anything is something I think most people can universally agree on as a good thing. Gatekeeping random Joe's out of a video game series doesn't accomplish much though, as more money going on to a game series usually just means getting more of those games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evilpresident 04/23/24 8:27:23 AM #53:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/99e4ee9c.jpg Now sit down and listen to my 7hour lecture about why Tyranids are the best 40k faction. --- Nothing to report here <cite>evilpresident posted [p:980051218] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/99e4ee9c.jpgNow sit down and listen to my 7hour lecture about why Tyranids are the best 40k faction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 04/23/24 8:28:48 AM #54:	nekrodev posted... oh, it is different, absolutely - and i also don' think it would hurt the quality of the actual metal music, but what it would do is just make any kind of specialized website / message board about the topic insufferable. basically all of the major "metal" publications online are already ruined due to this - but there's still great music being made. true, I see how that can make the overall culture around the music worse. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. https://imgur.com/4CDGncR <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:980051237] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>nekrodev posted... </cite><quote>oh, it is different, absolutely - and i also don' think it would hurt the quality of the actual metal music, but what it would do is just make any kind of specialized website / message board about the topic insufferable. basically all of the major "metal" publications online are already ruined due to this - but there's still great music being made.</quote>true, I see how that can make the overall culture around the music worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
splodeymissile 04/23/24 8:33:09 AM #55:	Gatekeeping honestly seems like one of the saddest things anyone can do. If you desperately want to feel special, superior or merely different from others, pick a better reason than the sort of media you enjoy. --- One can not help but imagine Microsoft as being ran by a thousand Homer Simpsons. -Obturator <cite>splodeymissile posted [p:980051287] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Gatekeeping honestly seems like one of the saddest things anyone can do.If you desperately want to feel special, superior or merely different from others, pick a better reason than the sort of media you enjoy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_real_Naruto 04/23/24 8:53:12 AM #56:	I feel like there's already people who went through this when Bethseda got Fallout in the first place tbh. Also it won't be the series' popularity that destroys the games it'll be their own company if we go by the quality of Starfield. --- I am that Naruto crap. <cite>the_real_Naruto posted [p:980051470] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>I feel like there's already people who went through this when Bethseda got Fallout in the first place tbh.Also it won't be the series' popularity that destroys the games it'll be their own company if we go by the quality of Starfield. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 04/23/24 9:05:54 AM #57:	Patty_Fleur posted... I can't explain it but it upsets me. How old are you? --- The large print giveth And the small print taketh away <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:980051605] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite><quote>I can't explain it but it upsets me.</quote>How old are you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 04/23/24 9:34:52 AM #58:	Probably the same reason gate keeping fandoms pisses me off. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:980051923] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Probably the same reason gate keeping fandoms pisses me off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_real_Naruto 04/23/24 9:37:22 AM #59:	ssjevot posted... Oh. I think this was just from that black era of Capcom where they gave all their series to random Western devs to make shit games. Konami did the same thing (and still does). Capcom renaissance has been in full swing for a while now. Not enough Megaman tbh. Or at least give me Megaman Legends 3 :( creativerealms posted... Probably the same reason gate keeping fandoms pisses me off. I can't gatekeep. I try so hard to get so many people into my hobbies just to have more people to talk to about it. I can't tell you how long I've been preaching the word of One Piece to my friends. I don't try to force it on them though because I know its not everyone's type of series but damn... --- I am that Naruto crap. <cite>the_real_Naruto posted [p:980051956] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite><quote>Oh. I think this was just from that black era of Capcom where they gave all their series to random Western devs to make shit games. Konami did the same thing (and still does). Capcom renaissance has been in full swing for a while now.</quote>Not enough Megaman tbh. Or at least give me Megaman Legends 3 :(creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Probably the same reason gate keeping fandoms pisses me off.</quote>I can't gatekeep. I try so hard to get so many people into my hobbies just to have more people to talk to about it. I can't tell you how long I've been preaching the word of One Piece to my friends. I don't try to force it on them though because I know its not everyone's type of series but damn... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lobinde 04/23/24 9:57:09 AM #60:	In my case I was a huge fallout fan about 10 years ago, kinda lost interest in it, but the TV series made me interested in dabbling into the series again. Last night I started playing New Vegas for the first time in about 5 years. --- Hey gamers, check out my gaming game ratings and game reviews at https://backloggd.com/u/LobbyDob/ <cite>Lobinde posted [p:980052230] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>In my case I was a huge fallout fan about 10 years ago, kinda lost interest in it, but the TV series made me interested in dabbling into the series again. Last night I started playing New Vegas for the first time in about 5 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dio 04/23/24 9:58:49 AM #61:	It's always been mainstream. The TV show is better then 3 and 4 and just exposes how bad they are. --- Holy Diver. <cite>Dio posted [p:980052260] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>It's always been mainstream. The TV show is better then 3 and 4 and just exposes how bad they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth_C_Ryu 04/23/24 10:00:07 AM #62:	I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is. Because unless there is some lore I am missing from just watching people play the games, the world is still mostly a brown wasteland over a hundred years after the nukes fell. Even Chernobyl basically became a wildlife paradise less than 20 years afterwards since it is apparently more detrimental to wildlife to have humans nearby than it is to be in an area made radioactive by the worst single nuclear release in history. The ones that take place in what used to be a desert like Vegas have an excuse because its still a desert. Also, why have humans literally not rebuilt even 1600s level housing, and still live in the open-to-the-air, bombed out ruins from pre-war like a century after it happened? Although that one is probably just Bethesda being lazy. --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted [p:980052277] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is. Because unless there is some lore I am missing from just watching people play the games, the world is still mostly a brown wasteland over a hundred years after the nukes fell. Even Chernobyl basically became a wildlife paradise less than 20 years afterwards since it is apparently more detrimental to wildlife to have humans nearby than it is to be in an area made radioactive by the worst single nuclear release in history. The ones that take place in what used to be a desert like Vegas have an excuse because its still a desert. Also, why have humans literally not rebuilt even 1600s level housing, and still live in the open-to-the-air, bombed out ruins from pre-war like a century after it happened? Although that one is probably just Bethesda being lazy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 04/23/24 10:23:23 AM #64:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] After we locked down for Covid, the water in Venice was clear blue and there were even dolphins seen. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:980052604] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> After we locked down for Covid, the water in Venice was clear blue and there were even dolphins seen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Itachi157 04/23/24 10:45:30 AM #65:	It was always pretty mainstream. Easily one of the more well-known normie (for lack of a better term) gaming series. Like in the past even before the show I wouldnt be surprised at all if a random coworker had played the games. Whereas I would be surprised if for example they played the Tales of games or something. <cite>Itachi157 posted [p:980052958] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>It was always pretty mainstream. Easily one of the more well-known normie (for lack of a better term) gaming series. Like in the past even before the show I wouldnt be surprised at all if a random coworker had played the games. Whereas I would be surprised if for example they played the Tales of games or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jerry_Hellyeah 04/23/24 11:10:02 AM #67:	Fallout has been mainstream for over a decade. I really don't think you types were that into it before all this. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:980053396] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Fallout has been mainstream for over a decade.I really don't think you types were that into it before all this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 04/23/24 11:23:19 AM #68:	Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is. Fallout is based on the 50s ideas of what the future and nuclear war would be like. It's intentionally wrong. It has crazy mutants and radiation zombies for a reason. The technology is still vacuum tube computers. The internet and cell phones never existed (even though the nukes happened farther into the future than we are now). They didn't even have color television. You also have weird 50s robots and so on. The way you get poisoned by and treat radiation is also not correct for these same reasons. It's not meant to be realistic at all. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:980053594] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... </cite><quote>I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is.</quote>Fallout is based on the 50s ideas of what the future and nuclear war would be like. It's intentionally wrong. It has crazy mutants and radiation zombies for a reason. The technology is still vacuum tube computers. The internet and cell phones never existed (even though the nukes happened farther into the future than we are now). They didn't even have color television. You also have weird 50s robots and so on. The way you get poisoned by and treat radiation is also not correct for these same reasons. It's not meant to be realistic at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoMeLx22x 04/23/24 11:33:35 AM #70:	Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is. Because unless there is some lore I am missing from just watching people play the games, the world is still mostly a brown wasteland over a hundred years after the nukes fell. Even Chernobyl basically became a wildlife paradise less than 20 years afterwards since it is apparently more detrimental to wildlife to have humans nearby than it is to be in an area made radioactive by the worst single nuclear release in history. The ones that take place in what used to be a desert like Vegas have an excuse because its still a desert. Also, why have humans literally not rebuilt even 1600s level housing, and still live in the open-to-the-air, bombed out ruins from pre-war like a century after it happened? Although that one is probably just Bethesda being lazy. You're trying to apply our universe logic to a universe that is extremely similar but totally different than ours. That's the easiest way to stop and enjoy Fallout. --- Sigs are for losers. <cite>NoMeLx22x posted [p:980053740] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... </cite><quote>I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is. Because unless there is some lore I am missing from just watching people play the games, the world is still mostly a brown wasteland over a hundred years after the nukes fell. Even Chernobyl basically became a wildlife paradise less than 20 years afterwards since it is apparently more detrimental to wildlife to have humans nearby than it is to be in an area made radioactive by the worst single nuclear release in history. The ones that take place in what used to be a desert like Vegas have an excuse because its still a desert. Also, why have humans literally not rebuilt even 1600s level housing, and still live in the open-to-the-air, bombed out ruins from pre-war like a century after it happened? Although that one is probably just Bethesda being lazy.</quote>You're trying to apply our universe logic to a universe that is extremely similar but totally different than ours. That's the easiest way to stop and enjoy Fallout. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 04/23/24 11:36:50 AM #71:	They beat you over the head with the notion that people don't think there's any point to reconstruction when any random thing could take your life. Hell, building nicer houses sounds like a great way to get raided. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:980053784] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>They beat you over the head with the notion that people don't think there's any point to reconstruction when any random thing could take your life. Hell, building nicer houses sounds like a great way to get raided. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 04/23/24 11:43:30 AM #72:	The most convincing example would be any dbs thread on /a/. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:980053909] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>The most convincing example would be any dbs thread on /a/. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 04/23/24 11:47:23 AM #73:	Baron_Ox posted... gatekeeping doesn't make things better for you, it just deprives others of something they might like. <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980053967] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>gatekeeping doesn't make things better for you, it just deprives others of something they might like.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 04/23/24 11:58:07 AM #74:	Gatekeeping is great. Not everything should be approached as lightly as My Little Pony. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:980054139] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Gatekeeping is great. Not everything should be approached as lightly as My Little Pony. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 04/23/24 12:05:20 PM #75:	Imagine caring about what other people do. Grow up. This comes from a guy who grew up playing FO1 and 2 by the way. Gatekeepers are asinine. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:980054230] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Imagine caring about what other people do. Grow up. This comes from a guy who grew up playing FO1 and 2 by the way. Gatekeepers are asinine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
buddhamonster 04/23/24 12:15:33 PM #76:	Hyena_Of_Ice posted... It upsets you because from now on, you're going to encounter people whose Fallout knowledge is limited to the TV series while knowing jack shit about the videogames, the latter of which are probably the only version that you consider to be canonical. Even if it sticks to the canon for now (I have no idea if it does, because I have never played Fallout nor been interested in the TV series), these types of TV series inevitably deviate more and more from the source material. So have fun dealing with that. Its set in-universe, after the events of Fallout 4, and Todd Howard confirmed that it is 100% canon. --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! <cite>buddhamonster posted [p:980054362] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Hyena_Of_Ice posted... </cite><quote>It upsets you because from now on, you're going to encounter people whose Fallout knowledge is limited to the TV series while knowing jack shit about the videogames, the latter of which are probably the only version that you consider to be canonical.Even if it sticks to the canon for now (I have no idea if it does, because I have never played Fallout nor been interested in the TV series), these types of TV series inevitably deviate more and more from the source material.So have fun dealing with that.</quote>Its set in-universe, after the events of Fallout 4, and Todd Howard confirmed that it is 100% canon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 04/23/24 12:17:58 PM #77:	i'm the total opposite i still can't believe one of my favorite game franchises is everywhere. even bags on amazon. i would've never imagined something like Fallout could become so mainstream that it appeals to a massive audience. i actually think that's really neat. it might bring about some changes, but honestly, 4 fucked the franchise more than anything so far and it's still here so whatever. i'm almost even proud of the franchise, especially considering its history of legal troubles between creators and owners. it's come a long way and finally center stage. it's pretty neat. --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:980054391] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>i'm the total oppositei still can't believe one of my favorite game franchises is everywhere. even bags on amazon. i would've never imagined something like Fallout could become so mainstream that it appeals to a massive audience. i actually think that's really neat. it might bring about some changes, but honestly, 4 fucked the franchise more than anything so far and it's still here so whatever.i'm almost even proud of the franchise, especially considering its history of legal troubles between creators and owners. it's come a long way and finally center stage. it's pretty neat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 04/23/24 12:19:54 PM #78:	buddhamonster posted... Its set in-universe, after the events of Fallout 4, and Todd Howard confirmed that it is 100% canon. Yep. I meant to mention this earlier --- Currently Playing - Astral Ascent (Switch Edition) Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm the LinkPizza you'll see around <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:980054410] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>buddhamonster posted...</cite><quote>Its set in-universe, after the events of Fallout 4, and Todd Howard confirmed that it is 100% canon. </quote>Yep. I meant to mention this earlier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 04/23/24 12:32:14 PM #79:	I dunno. Elder Scrolls used to be an ancient PC RPG series that I never heard anyone talk about until Skyrim and then all of a sudden anything Bethesda made from then on was constantly talked about and people behaved as if anything Bethesda made was absolute solid gold. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:980054588] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>I dunno. Elder Scrolls used to be an ancient PC RPG series that I never heard anyone talk about until Skyrim and then all of a sudden anything Bethesda made from then on was constantly talked about and people behaved as if anything Bethesda made was absolute solid gold. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 04/23/24 12:40:00 PM #80:	4 already shit the bed with dialogue choices alone so it can't get any worse honestly --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:980054708] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>4 already shit the bed with dialogue choices alone so it can't get any worse honestly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MTRodaba2468 04/23/24 1:07:48 PM #81:	Mew posted... Its been mainstream since 3 or 4 lol This. Ever since Bethesda took over, it's been mainstream. Patty_Fleur posted... Amongst gamers only. I fine with that. No, in general. Rule of thumb, if it's a AAA game franchise, it's mainstream. It doesn't have to be on the level of recognizability of Mario or Sonic to be mainstream. Rosstin316 posted... Its because you used to feel cool and superior having this unique and niche favorite franchise compared to your normie buddies, but now they all like your thing which means your thing is now basic so you aint that interesting. This is 100% what it comes down to. And yes, I know the arguments about quality going downhill when trying to appeal to outside audience. It's not a direct correlation. Something can become popular without sacrificing quality, and something can make attempts to reach a large audience and never catch on. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm dealing with a headache right now, so maybe I'm just missing an obvious joke, but in case I'm not, Game of Thrones was MASSIVELY mainstream. It didn't end due to lack of funding (HBO is still putting money into it, hence the House of the Dragon spinoff). It ended because David Benioff & D. B. Weiss were getting tired of the series and wanted to move onto new projects. --- "You need a hobby. I suggest sticking forks in your eyes."-DJosef https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093694753981 <cite>MTRodaba2468 posted [p:980055124] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Mew posted... </cite><quote>Its been mainstream since 3 or 4 lol</quote>This. Ever since Bethesda took over, it's been mainstream.Patty_Fleur posted... </cite><quote>Amongst gamers only. I fine with that.</quote>No, in general.Rule of thumb, if it's a AAA game franchise, it's mainstream. It doesn't have to be on the level of recognizability of Mario or Sonic to be mainstream.Rosstin316 posted... </cite><quote>Its because you used to feel cool and superior having this unique and niche favorite franchise compared to your normie buddies, but now they all like your thing which means your thing is now basic so you aint that interesting.</quote>This is 100% what it comes down to.And yes, I know the arguments about quality going downhill when trying to appeal to outside audience. It's not a direct correlation. Something can become popular without sacrificing quality, and something can make attempts to reach a large audience and never catch on.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'm dealing with a headache right now, so maybe I'm just missing an obvious joke, but in case I'm not, Game of Thrones was MASSIVELY mainstream. It didn't end due to lack of funding (HBO is still putting money into it, hence the House of the Dragon spinoff). It ended because David Benioff & D. B. Weiss were getting tired of the series and wanted to move onto new projects. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 04/23/24 1:08:59 PM #82:	Yeah Game of Thrones was what everyone at the bar was discussing during its airtime. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:980055141] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Yeah Game of Thrones was what everyone at the bar was discussing during its airtime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 04/23/24 1:10:54 PM #83:	Patty_Fleur posted... But do they care about the games? The show was a hit with players and viewers-only alike. You only care about this because you want to gatekeep. No one is taking away from your enjoyment of the games. And Fallout has been mainstream since 3, New Vegas, and 4. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:980055173] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite><quote>But do they care about the games?</quote>The show was a hit with players and viewers-only alike. You only care about this because you want to gatekeep. No one is taking away from your enjoyment of the games. And Fallout has been mainstream since 3, New Vegas, and 4. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 04/23/24 1:12:20 PM #84:	I dunno but you should see a professional about that because that's not a healthy state of mind. Also, Fallout was always mainstream. Not as mainstream as having a show, true, however most mainstream video game franchises don't. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980055191] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>I dunno but you should see a professional about that because that's not a healthy state of mind. Also, Fallout was always mainstream. Not as mainstream as having a show, true, however most mainstream video game franchises don't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 04/23/24 1:35:58 PM #85:	ScazarMeltex posted... It's always this. Agreed. There's no way it has anything to do with the thing they liked being changed to the point of being unrecognizable. --- Our intention is not to stifle political expression, we are turning Current Events private, political topics outside of CE will be banned. -TimmyQuivy <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:980055534] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>It's always this.</quote>Agreed. There's no way it has anything to do with the thing they liked being changed to the point of being unrecognizable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 04/23/24 1:38:47 PM #86:	Something becoming too mainstream can just seems to negatively affect everything, whether too many chefs or not enough care being given to keeping things consistent. Though I'd say that happened to Fallout a while ago, so not too much to complain about with that franchise. <cite>Nemu posted [p:980055590] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Something becoming too mainstream can just seems to negatively affect everything, whether too many chefs or not enough care being given to keeping things consistent. Though I'd say that happened to Fallout a while ago, so not too much to complain about with that franchise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 04/23/24 1:39:00 PM #87:	I knew it was casual when Fallout 4 sold like 5 million day one. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:980055594] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>I knew it was casual when Fallout 4 sold like 5 million day one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 04/23/24 1:41:41 PM #88:	fallout and elder scrolls sell well hell either would sell probably 30 mill day one with how long its been since fallout 4 and skyrim <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980055649] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>fallout and elder scrolls sell well hell either would sell probably 30 mill day one with how long its been since fallout 4 and skyrim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 04/23/24 1:42:22 PM #89:	Last good Fallout game was 9 years ago so if anything you would want renewed interest in the series with new fans Gamer logic often doesn't make any sense --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:980055659] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Last good Fallout game was 9 years ago so if anything you would want renewed interest in the series with new fansGamer logic often doesn't make any sense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoMeLx22x 04/23/24 1:49:18 PM #90:	Tsukasa1891 posted... Agreed. There's no way it has anything to do with the thing they liked being changed to the point of being unrecognizable. What in the world was changed to make the Fallout TV show unrecognizable? --- Sigs are for losers. <cite>NoMeLx22x posted [p:980055745] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Tsukasa1891 posted... </cite><quote>Agreed. There's no way it has anything to do with the thing they liked being changed to the point of being unrecognizable.</quote>What in the world was changed to make the Fallout TV show unrecognizable? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 04/23/24 2:01:12 PM #91:	Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... Also, why have humans literally not rebuilt even 1600s level housing, and still live in the open-to-the-air, bombed out ruins from pre-war like a century after it happened? Although that one is probably just Bethesda being lazy. This is something people take issue with with Bethesda's Fallout. In the first two games, you had multiple thriving towns. In the second game, you even had the NCR which was a full-on state/country. I don't know enough about radiation to properly argue things there, but Chernobyl was a localized event. Nearly the entirety of the US that we see was bombed. It makes sense that it would fuck up the environment a bit more. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:980055917] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... </cite><quote>Also, why have humans literally not rebuilt even 1600s level housing, and still live in the open-to-the-air, bombed out ruins from pre-war like a century after it happened? Although that one is probably just Bethesda being lazy.</quote>This is something people take issue with with Bethesda's Fallout. In the first two games, you had multiple thriving towns. In the second game, you even had the NCR which was a full-on state/country. I don't know enough about radiation to properly argue things there, but Chernobyl was a localized event. Nearly the entirety of the US that we see was bombed. It makes sense that it would fuck up the environment a bit more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 04/23/24 2:02:51 PM #92:	MTRodaba2468 posted... This. Ever since Bethesda took over, it's been mainstream. No, in general. Rule of thumb, if it's a AAA game franchise, it's mainstream. It doesn't have to be on the level of recognizability of Mario or Sonic to be mainstream. This really isn't true. Gaming has grown alot but there's still a difference between "mainstream in gaming" and "mainstream mainstream" --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:980055939] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>MTRodaba2468 posted... </cite><quote>This. Ever since Bethesda took over, it's been mainstream.No, in general.Rule of thumb, if it's a AAA game franchise, it's mainstream. It doesn't have to be on the level of recognizability of Mario or Sonic to be mainstream.</quote>This really isn't true. Gaming has grown alot but there's still a difference between "mainstream in gaming" and "mainstream mainstream" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 04/23/24 2:06:29 PM #93:	NoMeLx22x posted... What in the world was changed to make the Fallout TV show unrecognizable? Nothing I think they mean in the future if it continues to be mainstream. Because as it is now, its still just Fallout Thats what I think, at least. Because I had the same question when I first saw that post --- Currently Playing - Astral Ascent (Switch Edition) Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm the LinkPizza you'll see around <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:980056002] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>NoMeLx22x posted...</cite><quote>What in the world was changed to make the Fallout TV show unrecognizable? </quote>Nothing I think they mean in the future if it continues to be mainstream. Because as it is now, its still just Fallout Thats what I think, at least. Because I had the same question when I first saw that post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rynobot 04/23/24 2:08:29 PM #94:	TC thought he was unique because he liked a Franchise called Fallout. Well, Fallout was/is a good Franchise and grew in popularity. It was only a matter of time when "too" many people would eventually like it. Thus making TC nolonger feel unique. Guess it's time to find something new and do a better job of "Gatekeeping". Wouldn't want something you like to become popular again. --- GT: rynobot <cite>rynobot posted [p:980056036] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>TC thought he was unique because he liked a Franchise called Fallout. Well, Fallout was/is a good Franchise and grew in popularity. It was only a matter of time when "too" many people would eventually like it. Thus making TC nolonger feel unique. Guess it's time to find something new and do a better job of "Gatekeeping". Wouldn't want something you like to become popular again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/23/24 2:22:23 PM #95:	Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is. Because unless there is some lore I am missing from just watching people play the games, the world is still mostly a brown wasteland over a hundred years after the nukes fell. Even Chernobyl basically became a wildlife paradise less than 20 years afterwards since it is apparently more detrimental to wildlife to have humans nearby than it is to be in an area made radioactive by the worst single nuclear release in history. The ones that take place in what used to be a desert like Vegas have an excuse because its still a desert. There wasn't tons of radioactive dirt thrown into the atmosphere with Chernobyl the way there would be with a global scale nuclear war. There was some, but nothing on the scale of a fullscale nuclear war. The bombs dropped in Fallout, based on cold war weapons, would be between 10 and 33 times the size (cold war nukes were ranged between 250 and 750 kilotons) of what was dropped on Japan. Each. Chernobyl was single blast of roughly 225 kilotons (if my math is correct) There was also significant work put into trying to mitigate the damage caused by Chernobyl as opposed to the fallout world where nothing was done because of the world was completely devastated. Things still wouldn't be as bad as the Bethesda Fallout's brown color pallet would have you believe, but it certainly would look nothing like Chernobyl does now. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:980056237] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... </cite><quote>I can only speak for myself, but it annoys me because of how much Fallout just perpetuates bad myths about just how bad nuclear stuff is. Because unless there is some lore I am missing from just watching people play the games, the world is still mostly a brown wasteland over a hundred years after the nukes fell. Even Chernobyl basically became a wildlife paradise less than 20 years afterwards since it is apparently more detrimental to wildlife to have humans nearby than it is to be in an area made radioactive by the worst single nuclear release in history. The ones that take place in what used to be a desert like Vegas have an excuse because its still a desert.</quote>There wasn't tons of radioactive dirt thrown into the atmosphere with Chernobyl the way there would be with a global scale nuclear war. There was some, but nothing on the scale of a fullscale nuclear war.The bombs dropped in Fallout, based on cold war weapons, would be between 10 and 33 times the size (cold war nukes were ranged between 250 and 750 kilotons) of what was dropped on Japan. Each. Chernobyl was single blast of roughly 225 kilotons (if my math is correct) There was also significant work put into trying to mitigate the damage caused by Chernobyl as opposed to the fallout world where nothing was done because of the world was completely devastated.Things still wouldn't be as bad as the Bethesda Fallout's brown color pallet would have you believe, but it certainly would look nothing like Chernobyl does now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 04/23/24 2:23:25 PM #96:	Didn't read the topic TC is a hipster --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:980056245] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Didn't read the topic TC is a hipster </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 04/23/24 2:23:56 PM #97:	clearly radiation is still high with radiated animals and water and stuff <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980056254] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>clearly radiation is still high with radiated animals and water and stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilvosForever 04/23/24 2:28:54 PM #98:	Because you're a natural-born contrarian. You define yourself by what other people like or dislike. It's a very boring personality type. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif <cite>SilvosForever posted [p:980056318] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Because you're a natural-born contrarian.You define yourself by what other people like or dislike.It's a very boring personality type. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MTRodaba2468 04/23/24 2:30:03 PM #99:	Tsukasa1891 posted... Agreed. There's no way it has anything to do with the thing they liked being changed to the point of being unrecognizable. Like I said before, that's not automatically a given when something catches on with the mainstream. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's possible to stick to what appealed people to the property in the first place, even if the people behind the scenes decide to make changes over time, if only to not let it stagnate. IceCreamOnStero posted... This really isn't true. Gaming has grown alot but there's still a difference between "mainstream in gaming" and "mainstream mainstream" With the kind of budget AAA games are given, not just in development, but in marketing and merchandising, they're not just hoping hardcore gamers buy the game. They're hoping casual gamers jump on board too. If those games are successful enough to spawn a franchise, while keeping a AAA budget, it's very likely that that game has enough pop culture awareness that you could call it mainstream. This is purely anecdotal, so take it with all the salt grains you need, but I've got a number of friends whom are into gaming pretty heavily, and just as many whom don't play games at all. Many of those non-gamers are just as aware of various AAA franchises as the gamers are, Fallout included (and this was before the TV show was announced). --- "You need a hobby. I suggest sticking forks in your eyes."-DJosef https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093694753981 <cite>MTRodaba2468 posted [p:980056343] in Why does F... [t:80753615]...</cite> <quote>Tsukasa1891 posted... </cite><quote>Agreed. There's no way it has anything to do with the thing they liked being changed to the point of being unrecognizable.</quote>Like I said before, that's not automatically a given when something catches on with the mainstream. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's possible to stick to what appealed people to the property in the first place, even if the people behind the scenes decide to make changes over time, if only to not let it stagnate.IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>This really isn't true. Gaming has grown alot but there's still a difference between "mainstream in gaming" and "mainstream mainstream"</quote>With the kind of budget AAA games are given, not just in development, but in marketing and merchandising, they're not just hoping hardcore gamers buy the game. They're hoping casual gamers jump on board too. If those games are successful enough to spawn a franchise, while keeping a AAA budget, it's very likely that that game has enough pop culture awareness that you could call it mainstream.This is purely anecdotal, so take it with all the salt grains you need, but I've got a number of friends whom are into gaming pretty heavily, and just as many whom don't play games at all. Many of those non-gamers are just as aware of various AAA franchises as the gamers are, Fallout included (and this was before the TV show was announced). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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