Current Events > They made a Lunar 3.

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It is one of the worst RPGs ever.

Worse than Secret of the Stars

Worse than Beyond the Beyond

is that the one on DS?

It's not a remake? I almost bought it back in the day just seeing on the shelf, but I figured it was a remake.

Was that Dragon Song? That game had some bizarre mechanics. Running drains your hp outside of combat. That's one of the dumbest ideas I ever heard implemented.

It's a shame they never made another Lunar game after Eternal Blue Complete.

Yeah for Dragon Song it got its three strikes awfully quick.

1. "Hi, I'm Generic Protag. This is my oldest friend, Love Interest, but I don't have a crush on her...MAYBE!!"

2. Running drains your HP.

3. Experience AND Gold? Hahaha, no, pick which one you want to get.

Okay, fuck you, goodbye forever, blight on a once-beautiful franchise.

Shotgunnova posted...

It's a shame they never made another Lunar game after Eternal Blue Complete.

I know, right? I've been waiting 20+ years for a new Lunar game, but NOTHING.

Dragon Song was a truly bizarre game. Lunar 1 abd 2 didn't really break new gameplay ground but they were fun and charming; it was a workable formula. But time after time baffling gameplay decisions made Dragon Song a frustrating experience unworthy of the name.. Only being able to target enemy groups, having to choose between xp or item drops making gridning worse..etc..If they had just done a by the numbers game it would have been better even.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_(series)#

Its depressing how low most of those sales numbers are. Just over a million for all those different versions on all those different platforms. I know its just Japan sales but its still a bummer.

I still remember buying Lunar Silver Star Story Complete on PS1 in May of 99. I had just gotten out of the Navy that month and came home. Went to the game store just browsing games on the shelf and this caught my eye. Bought it.

I still remember the nice book that came with it and the cloth map. Ended up loving the game. Played the hell out of it that first month while waiting to start my new job.

Its crazy that PS1 version only sold 44,000 in Japan. Damn thats low.

Lunar should have been one of the great jrpg franchises of gaming history. Seems they only made 2 good games and then shit after that

Im surprised they havent brought the games to modern systems with the remaster/remake treatment yet

solosnake posted...

Im surprised they havent brought the games to modern systems with the remaster/remake treatment yet

I think it's all because of that one dude who owns the rights to the game and he just...sits on it.

Dragon Song never happened, that just a nightmare.

solosnake posted...

Im surprised they havent brought the games to modern systems with the remaster/remake treatment yet

Play Trails. Same combat essentially but they're still being made.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Play Trails. Same combat essentially but they're still being made.

But you also have to play 373529462519697320472 games in order to get the full story. No thanks.

Xenogears15 posted...

But you also have to play 373529462519697320472 games in order to get the full story. No thanks.

It's 10 games to get up to current. It's not like it's that big of a deal.

You can also just start at CS3 if you want since that game starts after a timeskip

Tyranthraxus posted...

Play Trails. Same combat essentially but they're still being made.

i played trails in the sky 1, and i cant imagine playing through a dozen other games just as long or longer.

I absolutely loved SSSC

Sorry but the worst RPGs are Drakkhen and Paladin's Quest

I've never even tried Dragon Song and have no interest in doing so.

Lunar: SSSC and Lunar: 2 EBC are both amazing games though and everything a classic RPG should be. I play them both back to back every few years and they never lose their charm.

VeggetaX posted...

Sorry but the worst RPG is Drakkhen and Paladin's Quest

Nah. It's definitely some garbage no one ever plays until they hear about how bad it is like Hoshi wo Miro Hito.

VeggetaX posted...

Sorry but the worst RPG is Drakkhen and Paladin's Quest

Drakkhen sucks, but you take back that Paladin's Quest slander heh lol I really like Paladin's Quest. One of the fifteen people probably.

Tyranthraxus posted...

It's 10 games to get up to current. It's not like it's that big of a deal.

You can also just start at CS3 if you want since that game starts after a timeskip

I'm sorry, but 10 JRPGs--games that can run 30-70 hours long each--is too much of a time investment. Waaaaaaaaay too much time to invest in a series.

I might give it a shot if they start a new story, but I am not touching the current one.

Paladin's Quest is fun. Weird setting. Almost feels like the sort of RPG maker games people do now. Really strange color pallet too.

Drakkhen has good music. the whole soundtrack. Play Dragon View instead for gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzcA6bvEj1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAL4grvl1A

I will say Drakkhen does have some great mood setting music. Certainly not fun to play or figure out though on a SNES.
Also good description of what Paladin's Quest could feel like today. It's a very alien feeling world heh those lollipop trees lmao

I would not choose to play Drakkhen. Definitely not fun on a SNES. As a kid that got a SNES for Christmas in 91 though, I thought the graphics looked amazing.

More games should let you turn off experience, I want to do all the sidequests but I hate getting overleveled. All that being said, I lost interest in the game fairly early on.

I think there was another Lunar game, but I could be mistaken, I think it was called

Lunar Magic School

Also I actually liked Beyond the Beyond, and Tecmo Secret of the Stars, I mean they arent great, but I still liked them. I never played Dragon song, but it sounds terrible.

Secret of the Stars isn't that bad. It just happened to exist on a system with shit like FF4/6 Chrono Trigger, Lufia 2, BOF1/2, and some Japanese exclusive shit like DQ5, FF5 and Lennus 2

Had it released on the Genesis it might have done better. The only real competition on that system was Phantasy Star 4

Tyranthraxus posted...

Play Trails. Same combat essentially but they're still being made.

I have a trouble with trails because my ocd makes me want to get full marks on every side quest to get top ranks,so i get the good endings, and then I end up resorting to a guide which isn't fun.

It would be one thing if you could go back and do things but so many quests have limited periods to do them and only one chance to get full points.

Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

It is one of the worst RPGs ever.

Worse than Secret of the Stars

Worse than Beyond the Beyond

No they didn't.....

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Not Ghaleon dear Quark, Punching Puppet Ghaleon!

Revolution_X posted...

Not Ghaleon dear Quark, Punching Puppet Ghaleon!

God I miss Working Designs! They had the best bonus swag!

absolutebuffoon posted...

I have a trouble with trails because my ocd makes me want to get full marks on every side quest to get top ranks,so i get the good endings, and then I end up resorting to a guide which isn't fun.

It would be one thing if you could go back and do things but so many quests have limited periods to do them and only one chance to get full points.

All the trails games have only one ending with some minor variations starting in Zero based on friendship meters.

The only exception is CS4 but afaik it's not possible to miss the extra thing you need to do to get the good ending. You might have to do a bit of obnoxious back tracking but it's available any time just before the final ponr.

There's a few instances where people will acknowledge your achievements in other games like the various fishing guilds, and some quests that have a second part in another game, though I believe they stopped doing things like that starting with Cold Steel.

In CS3 onward they made it real easy. All quests are marked on the map and any NPC you haven't spoken to yet is also marked. If you clear every map of icons you'll find everything you need. For missions with different grades you can just save scum. The games have ways of telling you that you fucked up. Probably easier to just get a guide to look up the quests that have wrong options though.

Secret of the Stars, played through it a couple times as a kid and made my little brother be the Kustura lol