Current Events > WCW's cruiserweight division was legitimate..

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That art did include the influx of new folks during WCWs dying days like AJ Styles or Christopher Daniels. It also doesnt include the cruiserweight enhancement talents like Brad Armstrong & Marty Janetty.

No idea why Pillman wasnt included unless thats supposed to be him under Blitzkrieg next to Candido.

By name.. just one I think

Almost all. The 2 with the matching lucha masks escape me at the moment

I didn't realize WCW had that many luchadores back then.

why does alex wright look like jim carrey

SauI_Goodman posted...

Almost all. The 2 with the matching lucha masks escape me at the moment

Los Villanos they had numbers and would switch in the match. Cant remember their numbers I think 3 & 4

Who is the purple mask guy?

GuerrillaSoldier posted...

why does alex wright look like jim carrey

Jim wishes he had those dance moves

https://youtu.be/Jwk3WqSTGVM?si=VLVrCJ6FveGOWkOo

MICHALECOLE posted...

By name.. just one I think

You only know one?

I see Eddie and about and about a dozen Reys

Theres maybe 8 i dont recognize. 2 of which i just cant remember their names.

Fucking Kidman was awesome then.
When Jericho was the Cruiserweight champ they did a battle royale to determine who would face him. He came out and announced all the entrants and the result was comedy gold.
https://www.wwe.com/videos/chris-jericho-announces-the-competitors-during-the-cruiserweight-battle-royal-slamboree-1998

I'm gonna just name the ones I recognize.

JL
Alex Wright
Eddie Guerrero
Sick Boy?
La Parka
Psicosis
Chris Jericho
Chris Candido?
Lash LeRoux
Prince Iaukea
Syxx
Disco Inferno?
Billy Kidman
Juventud
Jushin Liger
Sign Guy
Villano... 4 and 5? 5 and 6?
Shane/Greg Helms?
Buff Bagwell?
Ultimo Dragon
Evan Karagias
Shannon Moore
Chris Benoit?
Dean Malenko
Super Calo
Rey Mysterio

Top row: Silver King, JL, Alex Wright, Eddie, Elix Skipper, Crowbar, El Dandy (who are you to doubt)
Row 2: Lance Storm, Kaz Hyashi, La Parka, Phychosis, Chris Candino, Blitzkreig
Row 3: Lash Leroux, Prince Iakea, Syxx, Chris Jericho, Billy Kidman, Disco Inferno, Lenny Lane
Row 4: Lodi, Tokyo Magnum, Juvi, Jushin Thunder Leiger, Villiano IV, Villiano V
Row 5: Shane Helms, Chavo, Ultimo Dragon, Hector Garza, Yang
Row 6: Evan Curagious, Shannon Moore, Chispenwah, Dean Malenko, ???, Jamie-san
Last row: Super Calo, Damien 666, Rey Jr, Halloween, Lizmark Jr

DirkDiggles posted...

Top row: El Dandy (who are you to doubt)

Last row: Halloween,

that's definitely Dandy. The last one is Ciclope

Link_of_time posted...

that's definitely Dandy. The last one is Ciclope

Not Ciclope. His mask has only one eye, hence the name....

Anyways, they are the same dude nonetheless.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/96c4b940.jpg

• Silver King, Jerry Lynn (?), Das Wunderkind Alex Wright, Eddie Guerrero, Elix Skipper, Crowbar, Who Are You To Doubt El Dandy

• Lance Storm, Shinjiro Ohtani (?), The Chairman of WCW La Parka, Chris Jericho, Psicosis, A Really Drugged Up Chris Candido, Super Underrated Blitzkrieg

• Lash LaRoux, The Worst Cruiserweight Prince Iaukea, Syxx, Billy Kidman, Disco Inferno, Lenny Lane or Brian Pillman

• Lodi, Tokyo Magnum, Juvetude Guerrera, Jushin Liger, Los Villanos (3 & 4, or 4 & 5?)

• Shane Helms, Chavo Guerrero, Ultimo Dragon, Hector Garza, Jimmy Yang

• Evan Karagias, Shannon Moore, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Kaz Hayashi, Jamie Noble

• Super Calo, Damien, Rey Mysterio, Ciclope, Lizmark

MIA From Golden Era: Brad Armstrong, Marty Janetty, Jimmy Del Ray, Mikey Whipwreck, El Gato, Johnny Swinger, CIMA, Scott Putzki, Doc Dean, Robbie Brookside, Bobby Walker, & Barry Horowitz although these folks were all over the B-Shows, Im not sure any of these people ever actually won any matches.

MIA From Russo Era: AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Kid Kash, Mike Modest, EZ Money, Tony Marmaluke, Shark Boy, Kee Wee, Maestro, Mike Sanders, Violent J, Wolfie D, JC Ice, Bobby Roode, James Storm, Kid Romeo, Air Paris, Paul London, Super Dragon, & Jet Jaguar most of these guys were jobbed out, and Russo pushed Iaukea, Madusa, and Oklahoma instead because hes an idiot

STEROLIZER posted...

Los Villanos they had numbers and would switch in the match. Cant remember their numbers I think 3 & 4

Who is the purple mask guy?

The one in the upper left corner I think is Mr J.L. aka Jerry Lynn.

Ah yes los Villanos. Barely remember them for some reason.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Ah yes los Villanos. Barely remember them for some reason.

They actually won quite a lot on Saturday Night & Workdwide. Way more than the other low tier luchadors.

Their special move was the switch where one would drag the other out of the ring, replace them, and then small package the opponent. It never got old, the Bashams ripped it off years later.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Ah yes los Villanos. Barely remember them for some reason.

How can you not remember the Villanos? They introduced the famous Villano Switch, where the legal man and the non-legal man would switch places and trick the opponent, without the ref realizing, since they looked alike (outside of the roman numeral on their attire). This was later also used by the Bella Twins.

This is rhetorical, by the way. The Villanos were barely featured. I just loved the Villano Switch.

StealThisSheen posted...

I'm gonna just name the ones I recognize.

JL
Alex Wright
Eddie Guerrero
Sick Boy?
La Parka
Psicosis
Chris Jericho
Chris Candido?
Lash LeRoux
Prince Iaukea
Syxx
Disco Inferno?
Billy Kidman
Juventud
Jushin Liger
Sign Guy
Villano... 4 and 5? 5 and 6?
Shane/Greg Helms?
Buff Bagwell?
Ultimo Dragon
Evan Karagias
Shannon Moore
Chris Benoit?
Dean Malenko
Super Calo
Rey Mysterio

Which one did you think was Buff?

STEROLIZER posted...

Which one did you think was Buff?

Chavo. I recognize him, now. I think I got confused because Marcus Bagwell was indeed initially considered a cruiserweight. Not sure how I forgot literally Chavo, though.

StealThisSheen posted...

How can you not remember the Villanos? They introduced the famous Villano Switch, where the legal man and the non-legal man would switch places and trick the opponent, without the ref realizing, since they looked alike (outside of the roman numeral on their attire). This was later also used by the Bella Twins.

This is rhetorical, by the way. The Villanos were barely featured. I just loved the Villano Switch.

Because of that switch they actually got to win matches on the B-Shows, where El Dandy and the like did the job over and over again.

StealThisSheen posted...

Chavo. I recognize him, now. I think I got confused because Marcus Bagwell was indeed initially considered a cruiserweight. Not sure how I forgot literally Chavo, though.

Oh I can see it now. Which one is Sickboy?

STEROLIZER posted...

Oh I can see it now. Which one is Sickboy?

Crowbar. I literally forgot Crowbar even existed, to be honest. I think you'll see why I got the two confused there, too.

DirkDiggles posted...

Top row: Silver King, JL, Alex Wright, Eddie, Elix Skipper, Crowbar, El Dandy (who are you to doubt)
Row 2: Lance Storm, Kaz Hyashi, La Parka, Phychosis, Chris Candino, Blitzkreig
Row 3: Lash Leroux, Prince Iakea, Syxx, Chris Jericho, Billy Kidman, Disco Inferno, Lenny Lane
Row 4: Lodi, Tokyo Magnum, Juvi, Jushin Thunder Leiger, Villiano IV, Villiano V
Row 5: Shane Helms, Chavo, Ultimo Dragon, Hector Garza, Yang
Row 6: Evan Curagious, Shannon Moore, Chispenwah, Dean Malenko, ???, Jamie-san
Last row: Super Calo, Damien 666, Rey Jr, Halloween, Lizmark Jr

Thats Kaz Hayashi in Row 6, and I think Ohtani in row 2 but Im not certain

StealThisSheen posted...

Crowbar. I literally forgot Crowbar even existed, to be honest. I think you'll see why I got the two confused there, too.

I thought you might be confusing it with who I believe to be either Lenny Lane or Brian Pillman

STEROLIZER posted...

I thought you might be confusing it with who I believe to be either Lenny Lane or Brian Pillman

I honestly had no idea who that was at all because I forgot Lenny Lane was even a thing. Sick Boy and Crowbar both have that kinda grungy "goatee/stache combo, long brown hair" look.

StealThisSheen posted...

I honestly had no idea who that was at all because I forgot Lenny Lane was even a thing. Sick Boy and Crowbar both have that kinda grungy "goatee/stache combo, long brown hair" look.

If that was Lenny Lane wouldnt the artist use the controversial one that got banned by the Turner Network Executives?

@MICHALECOLE who is the one you know

STEROLIZER posted...

If that was Lenny Lane wouldnt the artist use the controversial one that got banned by the Turner Network Executives?

My first thought was not Lenny Lane, since I mostly remember Lenny with the pigtails.

But then I remembered this being a meme image:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/672158219125452800/DAf-lM4x_400x400.jpg

And the art appears to be blatantly based on that.

R.I.P. Chris Candido.

King_Rial posted...

R.I.P. Chris Candido.

His death is so insanely sad, because it could have been so easily avoided.

STEROLIZER posted...

@MICHALECOLE who is the one you know

Rey mysterio

but I just noticed Chris Benoit above him

I am sure Id know plenty if I heard their name

DirkDiggles posted...

Top row: Silver King, JL, Alex Wright, Eddie, Elix Skipper, Crowbar, El Dandy (who are you to doubt)
Row 2: Lance Storm, Kaz Hyashi, La Parka, Phychosis, Chris Candino, Blitzkreig
Row 3: Lash Leroux, Prince Iakea, Syxx, Chris Jericho, Billy Kidman, Disco Inferno, Lenny Lane
Row 4: Lodi, Tokyo Magnum, Juvi, Jushin Thunder Leiger, Villiano IV, Villiano V
Row 5: Shane Helms, Chavo, Ultimo Dragon, Hector Garza, Yang
Row 6: Evan Curagious, Shannon Moore, Chispenwah, Dean Malenko, ???, Jamie-san
Last row: Super Calo, Damien 666, Rey Jr, Halloween, Lizmark Jr

Based on this I know.. eleven by name

I love how I keep forgetting that Dean Malenko was a cruiserweight, because he was just so fucking talented in general that you forget he was a cruiserweight since he didn't really fit the mold they pushed, with people like Dragon/Mysterio/La Parka/Psicosis/etc. It made you appreciate how varied the division could be.

Shannon Moore was actually one of my favorites, along with Paul London

MICHALECOLE posted...

Shannon Moore was actually one of my favorites, along with Paul London

Both Greg Helms and Shannon Moore were actually really good. Evan Karagias was definitely the weakest of 3 Count, even though he was the most pushed. Greg Helms went on to become The Hurricane, if that helps.

I dont know Greg helms but I met Shane helms at a comic convention. Hes cool as fuck

Oh then yeah I met him

MICHALECOLE posted...

Oh then yeah I met him

Yeah, Greg/Shane Helms are the same person, and he became famous as The Hurricane.

He's cool as fuck. He's one of the nicest people at Cons, along with Rhyno, who is... Blatantly not a cruiserweight.

Dude when I played HCTP.. a lot.. might still be in my top five most hours put into a game to this day, I used to HATE Rhyno. Literally no reason. I kinda watched wwe and rhyno was always just there, often as a jobber, but then for some reason one day I was like.. actually I kinda love this dude. I loved his fake ass spear, cant remember the name right now, and I loved using his special because it didnt have a cutscene animation in the game it was just a BLAM move.

I wish I could play HCTP again

I have made probably hundreds of caws

MICHALECOLE posted...

Dude when I played HCTP.. a lot.. might still be in my top five most hours put into a game to this day, I used to HATE Rhyno. Literally no reason. I kinda watched wwe and rhyno was always just there, often as a jobber, but then for some reason one day I was like.. actually I kinda love this dude. I loved his fake ass spear, cant remember the name right now, and I loved using his special because it didnt have a cutscene animation in the game it was just a BLAM move.

I wish I could play HCTP again

I have made probably hundreds of caws

This is my favorite Rhyno quote ever:

"I tell people that nobody has ever kicked out of The Gore. And you can see the wheels turning, and you can tell they're thinking 'Wait, but what about...' and I say 'If they kicked out, it was a Spear I hit them with, not The Gore.'"

He's also the one that figured out how to make Edge spearing... Jeff? Hardy in that ladder match happen. The guy is pretty much a wrestling genius, but he's also humble as fuck.

The gore

great name.

yeah those hardy/edge Christian/dudley matches were my favorites. I honestly went from wrestling is my LIFE to hating everything about it after I got into mma to now being like.. meh, it is what it is

i dont think if I watched any of it now would I see anything good about it, so I just let it live in my memories

MICHALECOLE posted...

The gore

great name.

yeah those hardy/edge Christian/dudley matches were my favorites. I honestly went from wrestling is my LIFE to hating everything about it after I got into mma to now being like.. meh, it is what it is

i dont think if I watched any of it now would I see anything good about it, so I just let it live in my memories

I'll be honest, as somebody who loved the Attitude Era, and then kinda got turned off over the years, the new/HHH? era stuff is actually extremely good. I'd take a chance on it, if I were you.

La Parka should have done that Matt Hardy gimmick where he tries to lose weight to make the division. Could have Disco wearing the suit to weigh-in for him lol

I know most of them. At first I would have said more then half. But as I looked at it more I started to notice more ppl. So that was cool.

the only reason i watched wcw tbh, if it wasn't a cruiserweight match i was watching raw

STEROLIZER posted...

La Parka should have done that Matt Hardy gimmick where he tries to lose weight to make the division. Could have Disco wearing the suit to weigh-in for him lol

For the longest time, even as a kid, La Parka and Psicosis were my favorites, period. Even when I knew I was supposed to root for Mysterio or whoever, I liked them most.

I think I liked La Parka because of his "Chairman" gimmick, and how much he could move, even as a bigger guy. Meanwhile, I liked Psicosis because he just felt like the most impressive of the bunch when he really got the chance to perform, and the Guillotine Legdrop was one hell of a finisher.