Current Events > Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Reportedly Sold About Half of What FF7 Remake Did

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solosnake
04/14/24 7:35:30 PM
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https://gamingbolt.com/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-has-reportedly-sold-about-half-of-what-ff7-remake-did-in-the-same-timeframe

The acclaimed open world action RPG is "underperforming" where its sales are concerned. The action RPG is selling about half as well as Final Fantasy 7 Remake did in the same post-launch timeframe, and its also likely to have slower long-term sales than its predecessor.

The third game will likely do even worse, as it becomes harder to sell sequels the farther into the series you get. Its a big ask for people to play two or three hundred hour games just to catch up. And then you also have people who drop off the wagon as well.

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Crimsoness
04/14/24 7:36:11 PM
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Exclusivity isn't helping either

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cjsdowg
04/14/24 7:36:50 PM
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They should not have made it PlayStation only.

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Irony
04/14/24 7:37:10 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Exclusivity isn't helping either
Being on multiplatforms probably wouldn't help that much. This remake trilogy is going to end up like the Final Fantasy 13 trilogy where each game sells significantly worse than the last

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MarthGoomba
04/14/24 7:37:42 PM
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Hopefully this wakes SE up to how not doing PC day 1 is bad business and they don't repeat the same mistake for part 3

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RealBoy
04/14/24 7:37:48 PM
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Selling less than XVI is the real kicker.
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Zikten
04/14/24 7:37:56 PM
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I heard the game is very good. Also, Square Enix has supposed plans to go beyond 3. They want to keep the story going past the original ff7 plot
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Hospy
04/14/24 7:40:47 PM
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I cant be the only one just waiting for the whole thing to be completed in order to play it.
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dummy420
04/14/24 7:41:01 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Hopefully this wakes SE up to how not doing PC day 1 is bad business and they don't repeat the same mistake for part 3
I wish. SE is sometimes set in their ways and determined to find failure though. I think Helldivers 2 got Sony thinking day 1 releases on PC might actually be a good idea but we will see if SE is still trying for the exclusivity money.

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Lord_Ephraim
04/14/24 7:41:20 PM
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I think it has to be suffering from sequelitis than PS5 exclusivity. After all it didn't hurt Final Fantasy 16 as much.

If someone didn't buy Remake, they're not going to buy Rebirth even if Rebirth is considered a much better game. Players don't feel obligated to play Rebirth until they play Remake, and you still have those who are holding out until every single piece of the Final Fantasy 7 remake compilation is out. Not to mention those who played Remake and didn't like it aren't going to have their minds changed if Rebirth got a better metacritic.

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DarthAragorn
04/14/24 7:41:22 PM
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They should have not done the dogshit story changes and not made the middle part a hundred hour slog full of filler crap

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Zikten
04/14/24 7:41:50 PM
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Hospy posted...
I cant be the only one just waiting for the whole thing to be completed in order to play it.
Well like I said, it may never be completed. Unless you just play the first 3 and don't care about the FF7 Expanded Universe
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lilORANG
04/14/24 7:43:28 PM
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I don't have a PS5.

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Seaman_Prime
04/14/24 7:43:43 PM
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Im having trouble forcing myself to finish it. So much padding
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Waxitron_Gazer
04/14/24 7:45:10 PM
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Hmm I wonder why? They split a classic into 3 parts and I bet a significant portion of people who loved FF7 as a kid and only have a PS5 so that their own kid/s can play Fortnite were bummed when it was not the entire game and they now have to drop $150 MORE on their babysitting device.

Shocking.

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Punished_Blinx
04/14/24 7:45:54 PM
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It's not PS5 exclusivity specifically I think. A lot of it goes back to Remake too. That was PS4 exclusive, then on Epic Store for a timed period and then finally ended up on Steam over two years after its initial launch. Now here we are again and no sign of a Steam release.

Playstation isn't the JRPG machine anymore. Hasn't been for a long time. Obviously it can't run well on Switch but no PC is dumb.

But also Final Fantasy itself peaked with VII nearly 30 years ago. Why would anyone under 30 care about any of these games?

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Makeveli_lives
04/14/24 8:00:55 PM
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PS4 had one of the largest console install bases of all time, of course a ps5 exclusive would do worse. Plus some people didnt like the direction the remake took and are no longer interested in the trilogy, that hurts sales as well.

Why anybody expected it to do better is beyond me.

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UnsteadyOwl
04/14/24 8:01:09 PM
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Hospy posted...
I cant be the only one just waiting for the whole thing to be completed in order to play it.
I'm doing the same. I'll play it once there's some ultimate edition with all three games. I'm not hurting for things to play in the meantime.

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Hayame_Zero
04/14/24 8:05:05 PM
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Hospy posted...
I cant be the only one just waiting for the whole thing to be completed in order to play it.
You're going to get burned out before finishing them if you do it that way. It's going to run up to 200-300 hours altogether when the trilogy is finished.

It would be the equivalent of playing all three Xenoblades back to back.

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Necronmon
04/14/24 8:05:52 PM
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They learned nothing from the one way descent of the FF 13 trilogy.
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Punished_Blinx
04/14/24 8:30:15 PM
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I think overall the Final Fantasy VII Remake is a decade too late. It would have sold better during the PS3 generation. That was when the hype for this was at full steam. Oh well.

I don't think teenagers of today could give a single shit about this game or series at this point.

In the long run it'll be fine. They'll re-release it and bundle it as long as video games exist.

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Dakimakura
04/14/24 8:31:01 PM
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It's Joever. Cloud is CANCELLED!


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MICHALECOLE
04/14/24 8:32:16 PM
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Well the remake came out for ps4 and everybody had one of those
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thronedfire2
04/14/24 8:32:52 PM
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waiting for PC version

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Dakimakura
04/14/24 8:36:14 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
waiting for PC version

Hopefully Sony stops making consoles and they just do a triple release for PC when the new one comes out.

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Hayame_Zero
04/14/24 8:40:17 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Well the remake came out for ps4 and everybody had one of those
This. Remake was popular. It's not about waning interest, it's about availability.

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Mad-Dogg
04/14/24 8:42:53 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Why anybody expected it to do better is beyond me.
Why does multiple posters on this board keep making these topics where the "source" is the exact same source as another identical topic:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80745670

As in to say straight out of someone's ass and then every other poster after the TC's never bothered to check is the one that is always beyond me, lol.

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iGenesis
04/14/24 8:45:48 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Exclusivity isn't helping either
  • PS5 has sold between 50-60 million units.
  • Do Xbox Series X|S users care about this game? Seems like the Xbox fanbase overwhelmingly prefers Western games. And remember Sony is paying SE for the console exclusivity, which presumably exceeds what FF7 would have sold on Xbox, or SE wouldnt have agreed to the deal.
  • Its being ported to PC.
  • Switch doesnt have enough power to run it.
So this is pretty much as good as it gets for sales. Blaming the PS5, the best selling 9th-generation console by at least a 3-to-1 margin, is misguided.

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VeggetaX
04/14/24 8:47:40 PM
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Didn't Sony give SE a huge pay day to make it exclusive initially for now? I think they're okay with the "low" sales for now.

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Prestoff
04/14/24 8:50:03 PM
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It's both being a console exclusive and it being a "sequel" of a story heavy game are both contributors to why it won't sell as good as Remake. With that said, sales for it will jump again once it's available for PC. With that said, this is still all speculation. Wait for the real numbers from SE themselves to see if it reached expectations or not. It's also just like with Movie studios that sometimes you fund a movie not because it will make money back, but because it adds value to your existing library. A lot of Martin Scorcesee movies did not perform well, but studios still fund his movies because they know he will make movies at a High Quality level to give their brand value. It's the same with games, whether you like or dislike FF7R games they do add a certain value to the SE brand as a whole. With that said, I personally don't care for FF7 as a whole so I don't think I will be buying the games anytime soon.

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Punished_Blinx
04/14/24 8:50:50 PM
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iGenesis posted...
* PS5 has sold between 50-60 million units.
* Do Xbox Series X|S users care about this game? Seems like the Xbox fanbase overwhelmingly prefers Western games. And remember Sony is paying SE for the console exclusivity, which presumably exceeds what FF7 would have sold on Xbox, or SE wouldnt have agreed to the deal.
* Its being ported to PC.
* Switch doesnt have enough power to run it.
So this is pretty much as good as it gets for sales. Blaming the PS5, the best selling 9th-generation console by at least a 3-to-1 margin, is misguided.

Final Fantasy needs to be on PC day one. If Square-Enix aren't going to treat Final Fantasy as a priority then neither will PC gamers.

VeggetaX posted...
Didn't Sony give SE a huge pay day to make it exclusive initially for now? I think they're okay with the "low" sales for now.

Perhaps but it's not a great long term move. Less sales now means there's less to work with later. Sony isn't going to pay forever.

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solosnake
04/14/24 8:50:54 PM
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Sequel-itis is more to blame than the ps5. The proof is the fact ff16 sold more, despite being a worse game

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Punished_Blinx
04/14/24 8:53:21 PM
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solosnake posted...
Sequel-itis is more to blame than the ps5. The proof is the fact ff16 sold more, despite being a worse game

Sequelitis to a game which also went for dumb timed exclusive deals mind you.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Yes. At the very least PC is showing growth and consoles and console exclusives are not.

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thronedfire2
04/14/24 8:55:26 PM
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solosnake posted...
Sequel-itis is more to blame than the ps5. The proof is the fact ff16 sold more, despite being a worse game

yeah but there's also a set portion of people who are going to buy every new FF even if the reviews are awful

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Trumpo
04/14/24 8:56:07 PM
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Peeps waiting for the PS6 ultimate edition

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CARRRNE_ASADA
04/14/24 8:56:41 PM
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Irony posted...
Being on multiplatforms probably wouldn't help that much. This remake trilogy is going to end up like the Final Fantasy 13 trilogy where each game sells significantly worse than the last

Each title gave us diminishing returns from a base game that wasnt that great to begin with so after XIII-2 I checked out.

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HorsemnBusiness
04/14/24 8:56:50 PM
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TC use your brain. FF7 Remake was on PS4 and PS5. It also had an Intergrade version. Of course Remake sold more. Not as many PS5s are in every home like the PS4 was by this point and its a sequel thats reliant on people playing Remake lol.

Also anyone saying its supposed to be a 3 parter and are mad its not all on my disc have no idea what theyre talking about.

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thronedfire2
04/14/24 8:59:15 PM
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Trumpo posted...
Peeps waiting for the PS6 ultimate edition

that'll be part 3

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luigi33
04/14/24 9:00:18 PM
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iGenesis posted...
* PS5 has sold between 50-60 million units.
* Do Xbox Series X|S users care about this game? Seems like the Xbox fanbase overwhelmingly prefers Western games. And remember Sony is paying SE for the console exclusivity, which presumably exceeds what FF7 would have sold on Xbox, or SE wouldnt have agreed to the deal.
* Its being ported to PC.
* Switch doesnt have enough power to run it.
So this is pretty much as good as it gets for sales. Blaming the PS5, the best selling 9th-generation console by at least a 3-to-1 margin, is misguided.
...And yet it still selling like shit. You can explain all of this, explain that.

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Punished_Blinx
04/14/24 9:00:30 PM
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I don't think there's many of those either outside of like niche strategy games and low budget indies that can't afford to port.

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Iyami
04/14/24 9:02:35 PM
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I mean, it's billing itself as a part 2. Who is going to buy that one first? Sp it's audience is narrowed to people who finished the first game and want to continue by default. That's the double edge sword doing ff7 as a serialized game. $70 isn't a price many people would on a whim pick up the second one for if they were not already commited.
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Mad-Dogg
04/14/24 9:04:04 PM
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45 posts in and not a single poster has still asked for a source or bothered looking at what TC posted. Its pretty amazing, lol.

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Lukey_Bug
04/14/24 9:16:23 PM
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Mad-Dogg posted...
45 posts in and not a single poster has still asked for a source or bothered looking at what TC posted. Its pretty amazing, lol.

This topic was meant to bash the game. I dont think anyone else here cares if its true or not. I loved game btw

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VeggetaX
04/14/24 9:18:11 PM
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Lukey_Bug posted...
This topic was meant to bash the game
@solosnake thoughts?

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solosnake
04/14/24 9:19:49 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
@solosnake thoughts?
not bashing the game at all, just discussing poor sales. The game is better than ff16 in most aspects, and it sold worse

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Punished_Blinx
04/14/24 9:27:55 PM
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Mad-Dogg posted...
45 posts in and not a single poster has still asked for a source or bothered looking at what TC posted. Its pretty amazing, lol.

I already know the source is Daniel Ahmed who is a video games analysist who works for Niko Partners.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX

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VeggetaX
04/14/24 9:30:53 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I already know the source is Daniel Ahmed who is a video games analysist who works for Niko Partners.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX
So does that mean they're credible?

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