Board 8 > Rumorzone: FF7 Rebirth selling half as well as Remake

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MacArrowny
04/15/24 10:16:35 AM
#151:


Wonder what it could've done to stay as relevant as, say, God of War.

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 10:18:19 AM
#152:


If you want to see how well a straight remake will do, you'll get your shot with the FFIX one (although I imagine its break-even point will be much lower)

also can we not even vaguely discuss the Rebirth ending yet

Very slow gamer here who's like halfway through the game currently

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redrocket
04/15/24 10:22:07 AM
#153:


Sephiroth is absolutely a product of the 90s.

The AWESOME part of the 90s.

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 10:42:54 AM
#154:


MacArrowny posted...
Wonder what it could've done to stay as relevant as, say, God of War.
For a narrative game it's all about the pathos of the story. God of War very smartly transitioned from edgy badass pathos to somber dad pathos, which was trendy at the time. And of course the marketing was flawless in explaining to people how different the game was and how "evolved" and "modern" and "grown up" it became. It really sold itself as a 2020s game.

XVI marketing seemed really weak in general. I don't know anything about the characters, conflict, overall pathos. It's GoT-ish, but after season 8? They forgot that no one actually cares about the political parts of GoT, only about the boobs and violence, and most importantly, the somber dad main character. Combat looked 10 years old too.

There's just no somber dads in FF. If Nier can change their whole game to add a somber dad, why can't FF? And now they missed the trend so they can't do it anymore. I guess there's the hunger games trend that they could try, or super hero stuff. Those would work well with the FF formula. Or try to go for a more cutting edge Gen Alpha trend. What would that be? Riverdale or Euphoria or something

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FFDragon
04/15/24 10:53:02 AM
#155:


foolm0r0n posted...
What would that be? Riverdale or Euphoria or something

Euphoria would just be a FF8 remake with more opioids

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MacArrowny
04/15/24 10:55:22 AM
#156:


foolm0r0n posted...
If Nier can change their whole game to add a somber dad, why can't FF?
The cute boy version of Nier sold way better than the somber dad version.

And the hot girl sequel sold way better than either.

foolm0r0n posted...
Or try to go for a more cutting edge Gen Alpha trend. What would that be? Riverdale or Euphoria or something
Baldur's Gate 3 is the big Gen Alpha game.

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LightningStrikes
04/15/24 10:56:41 AM
#157:


foolm0r0n posted...
XVI marketing seemed really weak in general. I don't know anything about the characters, conflict, overall pathos. It's GoT-ish, but after season 8? They forgot that no one actually cares about the political parts of GoT, only about the boobs and violence, and most importantly, the somber dad main character.

Is this a take from May 2011

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 10:58:17 AM
#158:


XVI is a concept from 2011 yes

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 11:00:19 AM
#159:


MacArrowny posted...
And the hot girl sequel sold way better than either.
Hot girls are back in so that makes sense. Also bondage.

Where's Nomura's belts and chains when we need him most??

MacArrowny posted...
Baldur's Gate 3 is the big Gen Alpha game.
Actually great point. Maybe going back to actual RPG roots is what FF needs? Less epic linear anime storylines.

Also doesn't help that Persona has becomes THE game for an epic anime storyline. No one really looks at FF for that anymore.

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 11:03:23 AM
#160:


Hot girls never left

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 11:06:05 AM
#161:


They really did for a while. And now it's all AI generated ""hot""" """girls""" so we're entering back into a dark age.

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 11:14:29 AM
#162:


when was the era when companies stopped putting hot girls into games

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LightningStrikes
04/15/24 11:48:42 AM
#163:


Hilarious timing:

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/04/final-fantasy-16-successfully-expanded-the-series-to-new-younger-players-says-square-enix

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pjbasis
04/15/24 12:21:11 PM
#164:


Leonhart4 posted...
when was the era when companies stopped putting hot girls into games

Somewhere around the last of us 2

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FFDragon
04/15/24 12:24:17 PM
#165:


Hot take(?): Abby can get it

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FFDragon
04/15/24 3:27:19 PM
#166:


gamefaqs has just banned hornyposting, but I stand by that statement

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MartinFF7
04/15/24 3:30:10 PM
#167:


Am I going to catch a NKL for Spongebobbing at some point
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FFDragon
04/15/24 3:31:07 PM
#168:


Vanille came in just under the wire there.

RIP Tifa propaganda though

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redrocket
04/15/24 3:32:20 PM
#169:


LOL

how is hornyposting defined??

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KamikazePotato
04/15/24 3:32:38 PM
#170:


LightningStrikes posted...
Hilarious timing:

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/04/final-fantasy-16-successfully-expanded-the-series-to-new-younger-players-says-square-enix
This implies that a lot of the oldheads complaining about FF16 never played it

Which tracks

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MacArrowny
04/15/24 3:33:05 PM
#171:


FFDragon posted...
gamefaqs has just banned hornyposting, but I stand by that statement
It was always banned! You can post stuff like that as much as you ever did.

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MacArrowny
04/15/24 3:33:38 PM
#172:


KamikazePotato posted...
This implies that a lot of the oldheads complaining about FF16 never played it

Which tracks
Yeah, people who actually played it seem pretty positive on it in general. I think it's very good!

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 3:41:17 PM
#173:


FFDragon posted...
Vanille came in just under the wire there.

RIP Tifa propaganda though

This is the break Aerith needed

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FFDragon
04/15/24 3:43:37 PM
#174:


ah yes, just what aerith needs, another chance

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 3:44:06 PM
#175:


FFDragon posted...
ah yes, just what aerith needs, another chance

No promises though

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Mewtwo59
04/15/24 3:56:43 PM
#176:


I'm excited for this to be Aerith's year, only for Fandom to shut down the forums before she wins.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/15/24 4:09:56 PM
#177:


foolm0r0n posted...
They forgot that no one actually cares about the political parts of GoT, only about the boobs and violence

This is actually the only thing they learned from Game of Thrones, they forgot to write characters beyond those two things for 90% of the cast and basically didn't try to write politics

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 4:16:17 PM
#179:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
This is actually the only thing they learned from Game of Thrones, they forgot to write characters beyond those two things for 90% of the cast and basically didn't try to write politics
Wow. Their marketing really screwed up then.

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 4:16:52 PM
#180:


Leonhart4 posted...
when was the era when companies stopped putting hot girls into games
2000s, esp Assassin's Creed era. Early 3D just wasn't good for hot non-anthro girls.

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 4:20:09 PM
#181:


I feel like the PS3 and Xbox 360 had plenty of games with hot girls in them

MGS4 even had a baddie squad made up of real world supermodels

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 4:23:12 PM
#182:


Kojima maxed out the PS3 and camera scanning tech of the time just so he could get his fav models in a game, way ahead of his time. And everyone shat on him for it.

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 4:24:59 PM
#183:


You will be ashamed of your actions

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MacArrowny
04/15/24 4:37:43 PM
#184:


foolm0r0n posted...
2000s, esp Assassin's Creed era. Early 3D just wasn't good for hot non-anthro girls.
Psh, that's the era when people were super horny for Bioware girls.

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WhiteLens
04/15/24 4:51:15 PM
#185:


Dead or Alive 4 was literally an early Xbox 360 game.

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foolm0r0n
04/15/24 5:49:59 PM
#186:


MacArrowny posted...
Bioware girls
God what a desperate time. Miranda's ass carried the entire industry solo for nearly a decade.

WhiteLens posted...
Dead or Alive 4 was literally an early Xbox 360 game.
Those were comparable to modern AI girls.

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Leonhart4
04/15/24 5:53:23 PM
#187:


I remember when Fox News was getting up in arms about all the kinky alien sex in Mass Effect

But not to be outdone, Fandom is trying to get rid of hornyposting

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LightningStrikes
04/15/24 5:55:01 PM
#188:


Not just Fox News, the game was banned in Singapore!

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FFDragon
04/15/24 5:55:32 PM
#189:


We live in a world where the game of the year 2023 had helicopter dick physics

How can you in good conscience ban hornyposting now of all times?

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Xiahou_Shake
04/15/24 5:55:58 PM
#190:


foolm0r0n posted...
God what a desperate time. Miranda's ass carried the entire industry solo for nearly a decade.
Bayonetta's ass was out there before Miranda's! Honestly I'm wondering if we have those two to thank for the industry-wide trend of huge asses that eventually led to 2B and stuff like even BotW Zelda having a huge donk

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Thorn
04/15/24 7:12:38 PM
#191:


Leonhart4 posted...
I remember when Fox News was getting up in arms about all the kinky alien sex in Mass Effect

But not to be outdone, Fandom is trying to get rid of hornyposting
Was that the time that the games industry found an unlikely ally in Jack Thompson?

I know there was one time where he unexpectedly came in and was like "y'all are being ridiculous"

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WhiteLens
04/17/24 7:06:27 PM
#192:


https://twitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1780404754063241365

Yeah, take that Princess Peach: Showtime!

Though this part in the article got to me:

Rebirth also sold almost triple the number of copies managed by the next best-selling game of the month: Nintendo's Princess Peach: Showtime, which debuted with 105,000 copies sold after two weeks. That's more than double the 49,000 that Super Princess Peach for the Nintendo DS sold at launch 19 years ago.

lol

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UshiromiyaEva
04/17/24 7:08:43 PM
#193:


Unicorn Overlord being noteable enough to be in the conversation is plenty for me.

500k reach a few weeks ago, on the way to a million!

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MartinFF7
04/17/24 7:15:44 PM
#194:


that did feel like a fluffy hype press release, but "Square Enix beat Nintendo in boxed game revenue for March and ended Nintendos 8 month #1 revenue streak" feels a little more substantive.

.........on further reflection, the 8 months being July through February, so FFXVI in June I guess? nothing else to break the Nintendo stranglehold in that time? I guess BG3 was mostly online and/or not as popular in Japan?

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greengravy294
04/17/24 9:04:42 PM
#195:


Too hard 4 me

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foolm0r0n
04/17/24 10:08:25 PM
#197:


That's extremely stupid and harmful to the game industry and gamers in particular actually

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MacArrowny
04/17/24 10:10:02 PM
#198:


Unicorn Overlord would've been #2 on that chart, except for them splitting up the consoles it's on. Ah well.

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