Board 8 > Best Pokemon Generation by Type, TIEBREAKER: GROUND (Gen III vs. Gen V)

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Inviso
04/08/24 4:00:25 PM
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I've done this style of poll contest once before, back in either Gen VII or Gen VIII, so why not try it again now? The rules are simple: each day, I'm going to post a poll for a given Pokemon typing, with each generation's roster of new Pokemon filling in that typing. You just need to look at what each generation had to offer, and select which generation you think brought the best new roster (for any reason; you could say that a single Pokemon was so good that it overwhelms everything else the generation spawned, or you could select a generation that may be more well-rounded that the one that created your personal favorite). At the end of the day, one generation will be crowned a champion (with potential tiebreakers if need be), and that generation will advance to a second round, where the eighteen winners, and fourteen strongest runner-ups will be sorted into a 32-entrant tournament to crown which generation produced the best overall roster of a single typing.

And we round out our initial contest with a relatively dominant performance from Gen I once again, with a sizable number of Water-types that allowed it to break the twenty-vote barrier. Meanwhile, Gen VII gave a strong performance to try and score second place, but ultimately, Gen III had too much Water and scored thirteen votes as a second-place finish, which bumped Psychic out of the wild card race and has at least completed our basic bracket design.

For today's contest, we still have two wild cards to be decided as there were ties, and only one typing can get an official second place berth in the tournament. We're starting with Ground, where Gen III and Gen V both managed to put in solid showings against Gen I's dominant origins, and now they're facing each other, one-on-one.

Fire: Gen I (30 Votes, 47.62%)
Bug: Gen V (30 Votes, 44.12%)
Dragon: Gen III (30 Votes, 41.67%)
Poison: Gen I (29 Votes, 50.88%)
Grass: Gen III (28 Votes, 45.90%)
Psychic: Gen III (25 Votes, 45.45%)
Fairy: Gen VII (24 Votes, 39.34%)
Electric: Gen I (24 Votes, 37.50%)
Ice: Gen IV (24 Votes, 36.92%)
Flying: Gen I (21 Votes, 35.00%)
Water: Gen I (21 Votes, 34.43%)
Ground: Gen I (20 Votes, 33.33%)
Dark: Gen II (18 Votes, 26.87%)
Normal: Gen I (17 Votes, 28.81%)
Steel: Gen III (15 Votes, 27.27%)
Rock: Gen I (14, 23.33%)
Fighting: Gen IV (14 Votes, 21.88%)
Ghost: Gen V (13 Votes, 17.81%)
(Dark: Gen IX - 17 Votes, 25.37%)
(Fire: Gen V - 16 Votes, 25.4%)
(Electric: Gen V - 15 Votes, 23.44%)
(Poison: Gen VIII - 14, 24.56%)
(Bug: Gen VII - 14 Votes, 20.59%)
(Dragon: Gen VI - 14 Votes, 19.44%)
(Steel: Gen VI - 13, 23.64%)
(Flying: Gen VI - 13 Votes, 21.67%)
(Water: Gen III - 13 Votes, 21.31%)
(Ground: Gen III/Gen V - 12 Votes, 20.00%)
(Fairy: Gen VI - 12 Votes, 19.67%)
(Fighting: Gen IX - 12 Votes, 18.75%)
(Normal: Gen VIII - 11 Votes, 18.64%)
(Ghost: Gen IV/Gen IX - 10 Votes, 13.70%)
(Psychic: Gen II - 9 Votes, 16.36%)
(Rock: Gen II/III - 9 Votes, 15.00%)
(Grass: Gen I/Gen V - 9 Votes, 14.75%)
(Ice: Gen III - 9 Votes, 13.85%)

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04/08/24 4:09:31 PM
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Easy 5

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skulltrumpets
04/08/24 4:14:27 PM
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Excadrill is my all time favourite Pokemon, and I don't hate any of the other gen 5 ground types (even Landorus and Stunfisk) either.

I can't say I hate any of the gen 3 ones either, but I really, really, really love Excadrill guys.
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Inviso
04/08/24 4:14:57 PM
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Gen III (Marshtomp is pointless...definite middle evolution syndrome. Swampert...I GET the appeal, but to me, Swampert has always felt like one of the more boring final starter evolutions. Like, you look at Gen V with Seismitoad, and yes, Swampert is far superior...but it also feels like...yeah, I could see Mudkip being an early-route Water-type that evolves into Swampert just like Tympole becomes Seismitoad. Nothing about the design really stands out as special, for a starter. Nincada sucks, but at least it has a fun gimmick...it barely counts as a Ground-type though. Numel/Camerupt are both solid Pokemon overall, representing the Fire/Ground-type well. Trapinch is kinda weak and slow, but evolving into Vibrava is really cool (even if it should really be Bug/Ground or Bug/Dragon), and Flygon is a top tier Pokemon and both the best Ground-type. Barboach and Whiscash both kinda suck, especially since Swampert is RIGHT THERE. Baltoy and Claydol are pretty dumb and weak, and managed to do very little with a unique type combo. And Groundon is cool, but it's the inferior of the two box legendaries.)

Gen V (Drilbur is adorable and Excadrill is the second-best Ground-type overall. Paliptoad and Seismitoad are both godawful equivalents to Barboach and Whiscash. The entire Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile line is amazing, and I love them all, including a middle evo. Stunfisk is extremely stupid as a gimmick, and gets upstaged by its Galarian form. Golett and Golurk are fine, but they don't do anything for me. And Landorus is the best of the genie trio (largely because of its Therian form), but it's still one of the lameass genies.)

This is a tough call, and it comes down to the fact that Flygon may be the best, but Drilbur/Excadrill and Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile all beat out the next-best from Gen III in Numel/Camerupt/Groudon, so I have to give the win to Gen V here.

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KommunistKoala
04/08/24 4:43:28 PM
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III is booty cheeks

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ctesjbuvf
04/08/24 5:18:36 PM
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Inviso posted...
This is a tough call, and it comes down to the fact that Flygon may be the best, but Drilbur/Excadrill and Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile all beat out the next-best from Gen III in Numel/Camerupt/Groudon, so I have to give the win to Gen V here.

Spot on with every name here. Conflicted about conclusion.

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mnk
04/08/24 7:05:53 PM
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V wins handily. Camerupt is great and Flygon is decent, but they can't stand up to the entire Sandile line, Excadrill, and Golurk.

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GeneralKenobi85
04/08/24 7:52:41 PM
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Landorus singlehandedly drags down all of Gen 5. Just kidding, that's still my pick for this one.

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UF8
04/09/24 2:08:19 AM
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Inviso posted...
Baltoy and Claydol are pretty dumb and weak, and managed to do very little with a unique type combo
https://www.smogon.com/dex/rs/pokemon/claydol/ i mean
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Inviso
04/09/24 8:06:04 AM
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Morning bump.

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ItzKnightz
04/09/24 8:16:36 AM
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Gen 5 has the widest roster of good ground types.

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Brayze_II
04/09/24 8:28:29 AM
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They're both good, but Claydol is one of my faves (he's a Jomon Dogu!)

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Inviso
04/09/24 11:45:06 AM
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Bump. Still very close.

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Raka_Putra
04/09/24 12:42:32 PM
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Gen V kinda pulled ahead as of now but it's a worthy winner.

Excadrill and Krookodile are A-tier Pokemon, Stunfisk is at least somewhat unique, Golurk is decent, Seismitoad is mostly inoffensive, and Landorus...I hate the Forces of Nature trio (or quartet now I guess?).

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Raka_Putra
04/09/24 12:43:40 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/ab1f3c41.jpg

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