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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 2:57:23 PM
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I saw some topics saying Republicans are Nazis which, y'know fair. But then I see other topics saying they support Israel and their genocide in the middle east against Palestinians. So I am a little confused but would appreciate any explanation on this, thank you
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Gritty
03/30/24 2:58:11 PM
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Seems like a good natured topic
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nocturnal_traveler
03/30/24 2:59:56 PM
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The only reason Republicans support Israel is because they believe doing so will bring the biblical apocalypse down sooner. Getting brown people killed is also a nice bonus for them.

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WingsOfGood
03/30/24 3:00:03 PM
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Do they support keeping Jews in Isreal only or do they support them coming where they live and having businesses there?
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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 3:00:51 PM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
The only reason Republicans support Israel is because they believe doing so will bring the biblical apocalypse down sooner. Getting brown people killed is also a nice bonus for them.
So you're saying Nazis are supporting Israel

Or are you saying Republicans arent Nazis
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nocturnal_traveler
03/30/24 3:01:43 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
So you're saying Nazis are supporting Israel

Or are you saying Republicans arent Nazis
Yes.

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WingsOfGood
03/30/24 3:02:34 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
So you're saying Nazis are supporting Israel

Or are you saying Republicans arent Nazis

What is your opinion on Hollywood and especially the big Jewish owned companies of Hollywood?
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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 3:02:39 PM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
Yes.
Fair
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Southernfatman
03/30/24 3:03:18 PM
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Besides the religious aspect, Republicans like Israel because they're murdering Muslims. They'll partner up and use groups they hate in the meantime like log cabin Republicans and racial minority conservatives. Once these groups' usefulness is up, they'll be facing the fascist firing squad as well.

Reminds me of a scene from The Sopranos.

"You can disagree with Evangelicals, but they are great friends of the Jews because Israel is the holy land."
"You wait...."

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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 3:03:34 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
What is your opinion on Hollywood and especially the big Jewish owned companies of Hollywood?
I work in Hollywood. They've been doing a shitty job for 15ish years.
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Vicious_Dios
03/30/24 3:04:32 PM
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Bruh...

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ellis123
03/30/24 3:05:12 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Can someone be a Nazi and support Israel
Yes.

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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 3:05:42 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Yes.
Nazis for Israel. Crazy world we live in
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hockeybabe89
03/30/24 3:06:00 PM
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Well clearly, since the far-right blames Jews for everything, yet is also loudly anti-Palestine and accused everyone anti-Israel of being pro-terrorist and hating Jews.

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Foppe
03/30/24 3:26:54 PM
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I mean, they see both Jews and Muslims as lower races that deserves to die.
Having them kill each others is just perfect.
By looking at the map, you will see one Jewish state and multiple Muslim ones.
If Israel is destroyed, then it will be Muslims all over the place, growing larger and stronger.
But if Israel stay strong enough, then they will prevent the Muslims from growing "too strong".
So it is like the American election, two bad choices but one will be less of the evil.

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ScazarMeltex
03/30/24 3:28:01 PM
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I'd suggest you ask a Republican that question. But you aren't asking this in good faith.

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Hornezz
03/30/24 3:32:26 PM
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The far right has an odd relationship with Israel.

Some of them hate Israel because they hate Jews, as simple as that.
Some love Israel because they like how it treats Muslims as second-class citizens.
Some love Israel because they believe in ethnostates, and they'd rather see Jews there than Jews here.
Then there's also the christofascists who have a weird attachment to Israel because of the Biblical end of times.

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Umbreon
03/30/24 3:34:30 PM
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Context: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80734079/979637893

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Guide
03/30/24 3:36:27 PM
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They support Israel because they hate muslims and brown people more, mostly.

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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 3:37:06 PM
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Foppe posted...
I mean, they see both Jews and Muslims as lower races that deserves to die.
Having them kill each others is just perfect.
By looking at the map, you will see one Jewish state and multiple Muslim ones.
If Israel is destroyed, then it will be Muslims all over the place, growing larger and stronger.
But if Israel stay strong enough, then they will prevent the Muslims from growing "too strong".
So it is like the American election, two bad choices but one will be less of the evil.
But are they "helping them kill each other", or are they just going all in on helping Israel? Cause it seems to me they're just going all in on helping Israel.

ScazarMeltex posted...
I'd suggest you ask a Republican that question. But you aren't asking this in good faith.
I don't need to because I can tell you their answer already: "We're not Nazis".
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CSCA33
03/30/24 3:42:54 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
I don't need to because I can tell you their answer already: "We're not Nazis".
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f78ec239.jpg

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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 3:43:57 PM
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CSCA33 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespt.com/a/forum/f/f78ec239.jpg
Ask your average Republican and see if they admit to being a Nazi. I guarantee they'll say what I told you
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ButteryMales
03/30/24 3:44:22 PM
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Genocidal fascists are infamous for supporting genocidal theocratic ethnostates.
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CSCA33
03/30/24 3:47:15 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Ask your average Republican and see if they admit to being a Nazi. I guarantee they'll say what I told you
Like what happened with Charlottesville?

Not Nazis, just marching beside people carrying swastika flags or chanting things like blood and soil

very fine people on both sides

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Prestoff
03/30/24 3:47:38 PM
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Yes, they do exist.

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dancing_cactuar
03/30/24 3:47:46 PM
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Not even talking Neo Nazi, I feel like if you plucked someone from the literal Third Reich out of the 1940s into present day and showed them what Israel is doing right now, they'd be pretty impressed, call Netanyahu "one of the good ones" or some shit, and start taking notes.

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CSCA33
03/30/24 3:49:36 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Context: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80734079/979637893
I definitely have them tagged after that little fiasco

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StealThisSheen
03/30/24 3:52:41 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Context: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80734079/979637893

Hey TC why did you never answer questions about this post?

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JimmyFraska
03/30/24 3:56:51 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Hey TC why did you never answer questions about this post?
Because the people asking aren't doing so with genuine interest. I'd give myself a 0.5% chance of changing their minds. Not worth it to me, so no answer.
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Dungeater
03/30/24 3:58:18 PM
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yes.

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StealThisSheen
03/30/24 3:58:50 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Because the people asking aren't doing so with genuine interest. I'd give myself a 0.5% chance of changing their minds. Not worth it to me, so no answer.

I'd like to ask, in genuine interest, please, because I legitimately cannot think what the answer could be. You don't have to try to change my mind, I'd just like to see your point of view.

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Cemith
03/30/24 3:58:58 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Because the people asking aren't doing so with genuine interest. I'd give myself a 0.5% chance of changing their minds. Not worth it to me, so no answer.

But it's not a question. Nazi's main directive was purging jews

This isn't a debate where you can change someone's mind

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CSCA33
03/30/24 3:59:00 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Because the people asking aren't doing so with genuine interest. I'd give myself a 0.5% chance of changing their minds. Not worth it to me, so no answer.
Why would you even want to change peoples minds in the first place about Nazis being all about wiping out entire races?

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Thud
03/30/24 3:59:08 PM
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Mark Levin

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Trumble
03/30/24 4:12:49 PM
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Cemith posted...
But it's not a question. Nazi's main directive was purging jews

This isn't a debate where you can change someone's mind
Modern day use of the term "Nazi" does not require the specific targets to be the same as WW2 Nazis; just the general concept of having targeted groups that one wants exterminated. And for that matter, the WW2 Nazis targeted many groups, not just Jews (and we have a recent case where someone got suspended for trying to argue otherwise, if you were planning on going down that road).

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Sheiky-Baby
03/30/24 4:14:33 PM
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Jimmy Fraska sounds like someone who would turn informant for the fbi against the mob.

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ClayGuida
03/30/24 4:18:50 PM
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Yes, look at the daily caller.

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specialkid8
03/30/24 4:26:17 PM
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Nazism in general has moved well past Jews being a primary target. Also the vast majority of republicans are obviously not Nazis and, at worst, view Jews as an acceptable minority that is white passing and "contributes to society". Israel has been propped up as a strong ally of America so your typical republican would like them just because they're America's friend. And if they're fighting Islamic extremists, all the better.

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Cemith
03/30/24 4:38:41 PM
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Trumble posted...
Modern day use of the term "Nazi" does not require the specific targets to be the same as WW2 Nazis; just the general concept of having targeted groups that one wants exterminated.

Eh, yeah, I can see that.

Trumble posted...
And for that matter, the WW2 Nazis targeted many groups, not just Jews (and we have a recent case where someone got suspended for trying to argue otherwise, if you were planning on going down that road).

You know I hadn't considered that, usually tunnel vision on the jewish victims. That's on me though I need to read about it more.

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Dancedreamer
03/30/24 4:40:29 PM
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John Hagee sure seems to think so!

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Trumble
03/30/24 4:43:00 PM
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Cemith posted...
You know I hadn't considered that, usually tunnel vision on the jewish victims. That's on me though I need to read about it more.
Nah, that's fair enough, a lot of people are genuinely unaware of the other groups (or at least the extent to which the other groups were targeted). I probably jumped to conclusions a bit quickly there, my bad.

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Cemith
03/30/24 4:57:09 PM
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Trumble posted...
I probably jumped to conclusions a bit quickly there, my bad.

It's cool.

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Umbreon
03/30/24 5:27:07 PM
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Speaking of conclusions, this topic has reached a natural one.

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Ricemills
03/30/24 5:35:31 PM
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There was a wild conspiracy theory that plenty of Nazi escapes trial by disguising themselves as the victim, jewish people. Then those people also migrated to Israel and now occupy the government.

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Torgo
03/30/24 5:39:10 PM
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Yes of course they can.

Nazi ideology allows for supporting an enemy in the service of greater goals.

You can support actions of a right wing government for whatever reason, and still utterly hate people of the majority ethnicity under that government.

These two things are not mutually exclusive.


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Shadow_Don
03/30/24 5:39:31 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Then those people also migrated to Israel and now occupy the government.

ww2 vets are like 95+ years of age lmfao

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Ricemills
03/30/24 5:44:23 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
ww2 vets are like 95+ years of age lmfao

You think they only started the killing recently?

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