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03/28/24 8:02:37 AM
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cjsdowg
03/28/24 10:24:08 AM
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The only good things that came from is it a smaller investment in DEI and Republicans are going full speed a head on taking that out and firing black food mascots. Police end up getting MORE money, and getting away with doing less real work and killing more people. And really I don't know many black people who wanted them to fire Uncle Ben. But people act like the protesters one when we did not.

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RamenNoodles
03/28/24 10:30:27 AM
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I read before some of the leaders and heads of BLM were scamming lots of money and stuff which sure didnt look good or help their cause
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cjsdowg
03/28/24 10:31:39 AM
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RamenNoodles posted...
I read before some of the leaders and heads of BLM were scamming lots of money and stuff which sure didnt look good or help their cause

I see the organization and the protest as too different things. I am like a very large around to pain right now. So I can't even get my mind into going into how horrible the organization was.

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SgtBash
03/28/24 10:33:54 AM
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What is DEI?

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Hayame_Zero
03/28/24 10:34:13 AM
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RamenNoodles posted...
I read before some of the leaders and heads of BLM were scamming lots of money and stuff which sure didnt look good or help their cause
Because BLM is not an organization, it's a protest movement. Several people claimed to be "from" BLM, but that's not really what it is. Any group claiming to be could be anyone.

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cjsdowg
03/28/24 10:36:25 AM
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SgtBash posted...
What is DEI?

Basically it was a companies putting in a effort to the not over look women , people of color and other minorities from getting jobs. Republican heard he some what helped black people and went crazy over it .

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ScazarMeltex
03/28/24 10:39:35 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Basically it was a companies putting in a effort to the not over look women , people of color and other minorities from getting jobs. Republican heard he some what helped black people and went crazy over it .
In fairness, they hate that it helped women as well.

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SgtBash
03/28/24 10:39:38 AM
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I'm silly, I totally forgot what DEI meant

Diversity
Equity
Inclusion

I'm under the disability part, diagnosed before birth.

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TodorokiHayato
03/28/24 11:20:05 AM
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It brought awareness to those oblivious to what's happening with all the injustices in the world. You figure after decades of combining effort to integrate diversity against Jim Crow, there would be less instances of racism leading to murder, let alone by one that's supposed to protect us. Keep in mind there are people living in their bubble completely ignorant of the sacrifices made to obtain their privileges.

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Gritty
03/28/24 11:22:05 AM
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Yeah, I felt like it was kind of doom from the start because it really was more of just a protest and it was an actual like political movement. It really didnt have like a central organization and then I remember reading an article when all this was going down and they mentioned how the people that initially started. The BLM movement got like forced out by other players, and those are the ones who eventually corrupted it.

I also dont think the whole like defunding. The police thing works like it. It just didnt reach enough people and it scared too many people. I dont honestly think thats the answer either. I think the answer is having not a national as a police force but like a nationalized standard and having a Database still doesnt allow these cops to just move from one department to another and in general, just having better accountability better people and higher training standards. in California Theres literally police departments that have less fucking Academy training, then beauticians in order to get licensed.

but at the same time, policing in this country literally was created out of slavery, so the entire institutions been corrupted from its inception, so.
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Seaman_Prime
03/28/24 11:29:47 AM
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RamenNoodles posted...
I read before some of the leaders and heads of BLM were scamming lots of money and stuff which sure didnt look good or help their cause
It was a social movement, any one claiming to be representatives or leaders of a movement should have been looked at as fraudsters
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emblem-man
03/28/24 11:33:50 AM
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Some cities were able to push along some positive police reform during that time period. I'll need to find the list of the reforms at some point.


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mario2000
03/28/24 11:35:31 AM
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SgtBash posted...
What is DEI?

The new dumb buzzword the right is using since they got bored of "woke", which itself replaced "SJW", which itself replaced "politically correct".

Because the right has to constantly come up with new terms when people catch onto their shit.

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cjsdowg
03/28/24 12:14:43 PM
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Body cams can still get turned off or not released when ever the police want. So I see your point

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Sheiky-Baby
03/28/24 12:17:08 PM
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It was a sham lead by some nutjob. They could have legitimately done something good with it. They really missed the boat, and will most likely never get another chance like it.

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Tyranthraxus
03/28/24 12:18:50 PM
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mario2000 posted...
The new dumb buzzword the right is using since they got bored of "woke", which itself replaced "SJW", which itself replaced "politically correct".

Because the right has to constantly come up with new terms when people catch onto their shit.

Like Woke, the right didn't come up with it, they're just coopting it as a substitute for n-word

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Squall28
03/28/24 12:20:25 PM
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Gritty posted...
Yeah, I felt like it was kind of doom from the start because it really was more of just a protest and it was an actual like political movement. It really didnt have like a central organization and then I remember reading an article when all this was going down and they mentioned how the people that initially started. The BLM movement got like forced out by other players, and those are the ones who eventually corrupted it.

I also dont think the whole like defunding. The police thing works like it. It just didnt reach enough people and it scared too many people. I dont honestly think thats the answer either. I think the answer is having not a national as a police force but like a nationalized standard and having a Database still doesnt allow these cops to just move from one department to another and in general, just having better accountability better people and higher training standards. in California Theres literally police departments that have less fucking Academy training, then beauticians in order to get licensed.

but at the same time, policing in this country literally was created out of slavery, so the entire institutions been corrupted from its inception, so.

Yeah I still remember people attacking me for saying defund the police was a dumb slogan. Reform the Police is so much better

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ClayGuida
03/28/24 12:20:26 PM
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Plenty came from it. Trust in policing is at an all time low.

America saw how brutal police are and can be. And how there's nearly no penalty for their actions.

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Scardude
03/28/24 12:24:35 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Plenty came from it. Trust in policing is at an all time low.

America saw how brutal police are and can be. And how there's nearly no penalty for their actions.
Came in to say this. Police as a whole are not wanted. How much change it brings is still up in the air.

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Blue_Dream87
03/28/24 12:24:38 PM
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I mean, neither party in charge actually want to change the institutions BLM challenged. Republicans straight up wanted violence, while Democrats turned around and plugged more funding into police.

I'm just glad it woke people up to their reality, and hopefully radicalized enough people into realizing the only change worth a shit comes from people and not our useless government.

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Westernwolf4
03/28/24 12:26:56 PM
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I think more came from it than we realize. My sons and their friends are all aware of it, and it started a lot of conversation among that generation about the need to stand against injustice.

I have been a civil rights attorney for 20 years now, and I know only one thing for sure: Change toward justice for everyone is slow. Too slow. And of little comfort to those experiencing discrimination or injustice or unfair treatment based on who they are.

But I firmly believe we are moving too slowly, but firmly, toward an equitable society. The protests are a step in that direction.

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cjsdowg
03/28/24 12:30:42 PM
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Squall28 posted...
Yeah I still remember people attacking me for saying defund the police was a dumb slogan. Reform the Police is so much better

No slogan makes them happy

Black lives matter...isn't good it should be black lives matter too. That was the excuses by the same people who see nothing wrong with blueives matter.

CRT is something they cried about.
DEI is something that they hate
And right now these same ppl who cried about defunding police are pushing just that on the national level.


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Necronmon
03/28/24 12:31:01 PM
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Between that and the failure of Occupy Wall Street sadly it does feel like protesting does not do anything anymore.
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IShall_Run_Amok
03/28/24 12:36:48 PM
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The USA effectively demolioshes all routes to achieve social change because it does not benefit the people who own the country to allow that to happen. You have to have money to start shit and make money to keep in the game, so the only players are going to be rich people who want money. The only way change will ever actually be enacted is when the foundations of the country are so weakened that they have trouble doing this, which of course necessitates the state being more violent against an increasingly angry populace.

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ClayGuida
03/28/24 12:42:16 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
The USA effectively demolioshes all routes to achieve social change because it does not benefit the people who own the country to allow that to happen. You have to have money to start shit and make money to keep in the game, so the only players are going to be rich people who want money. The only way change will ever actually be enacted is when the foundations of the country are so weakened that they have trouble doing this, which of course necessitates the state being more violent against an increasingly angry populace.
That's why when you change millions or even tens of millions of opinions, they are forced to change rather than do it willingly.

Why else do you think they've been attacking colleges, wanting to ban tiktok, trying to end discussion of all race based history (there's a lot) and labeling anyone supporting Palestinian infants as HAMAS.

The youth and others are opening their eyes to something the media has ultimately tried their best to hide forever. People not relying on the corporate media for information was something they didn't predict.

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/28/24 1:14:55 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
That's why when you change millions or even tens of millions of opinions, they are forced to change rather than do it willingly.

Why else do you think they've been attacking colleges, wanting to ban tiktok, trying to end discussion of all race based history (there's a lot) and labeling anyone supporting Palestinian infants as HAMAS.

The youth and others are opening their eyes to something the media has ultimately tried their best to hide forever. People not relying on the corporate media for information was something they didn't predict.
Yep. An informed populace is a dangerous thing*, so they're scrambling to protect themselves and their interests, which are the true heart of the country's foundations.

*we should be a dangerous thing, I am condoning this

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Kaiser1one
03/28/24 1:32:24 PM
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What's funny is, when the French rioted and protested again, people were all like "Why doesn't America do it like the French!?". Well, Rick from Texas, we tried that during the George Floyd protests. You actively talked against it, didn't support any of it, called the protestors "rioters and looters" and a slew of other things. So when people DO "do it like the French"; you don't really mean what you say.

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ClayGuida
03/28/24 1:39:08 PM
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What does that even mean? Weren't the French burning piles of trash in the streets?

https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1638208207892955136?t=2O_lluFgSWTpuQwjFBs1GQ&s=19

Didn't see that one, but I remember the ones of people at a fine dining restaurant outside while a fire blazes 30 feet away.

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MarcyWarcy
03/28/24 1:43:48 PM
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the main thing that came of it was democrats cheerleading the police and giving them a bunch of money because they got scared

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LonelyStoner
03/28/24 1:52:15 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Basically it was a companies putting in an effort to the not over look women , people of color and other minorities from getting jobs. Republican heard he some what helped black people and went crazy over it .
This reads like a blasted drunk post

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/28/24 1:57:36 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
the main thing that came of it was democrats cheerleading the police and giving them a bunch of money because they got scared
Yep. The Democrat party is the exact same enemy of the people as the Republicans.

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Trumble
03/28/24 2:06:19 PM
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Like many things, it was a cause with good and necessary intentions that quickly got appropriated by scammers and extremists. But even despite that, it has definitely brought a level of awareness that wasn't there before.

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MrToothHasYou
03/28/24 2:13:42 PM
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Almost nothing came from the Occupy movement, as well. And from Bernie Sanders campaigns. But these movements are like small waves of a growing tide.

As Lenin said, There are decades where nothing happens, and there are weeks where decades happen.

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Agent_Stroud
03/28/24 2:36:04 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Almost nothing came from the Occupy movement, as well. And from Bernie Sanders campaigns. But these movements are like small waves of a growing tide.

As Lenin said, There are decades where nothing happens, and there are weeks where decades happen.

Lenin should know after all, as he got puppeteered by Stalin in the waning years of his life and everything he had worked for was taken by Josef while the people who backed Lenin were rounded up and massacred after his death.

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SaikyoStyle
03/28/24 2:46:34 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Almost nothing came from the Occupy movement, as well. And from Bernie Sanders campaigns. But these movements are like small waves of a growing tide.

As Lenin said, There are decades where nothing happens, and there are weeks where decades happen.
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ProfOaksAide
03/28/24 2:54:10 PM
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Maybe try voting instead? Its actually a lot less time and effort and then it actually works. Just a thought

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NoMeLx22x
03/28/24 2:58:36 PM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
Maybe try voting instead? Its actually a lot less time and effort and then it actually works. Just a thought

Vote harder!

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/28/24 2:59:46 PM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
Maybe try voting instead? Its actually a lot less time and effort and then it actually works. Just a thought
Voting never works and is completely laughable.

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Scardude
03/28/24 3:01:48 PM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
Maybe try voting instead? Its actually a lot less time and effort and then it actually works. Just a thought
America is forced with the same two options. Each one didn't help in this mess. Maybe you need a politician that can't be bought.

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:03:00 PM
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Scardude posted...
America is forced with the same two options. Each one didn't help in this mess. Maybe you need a politician that can't be bought.
The problem is Americans' unwillingness to vote for anyone who isn't handpicked by one of the big two parties. Which of course will always be someone who can be and has been bought.

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xlr_big-coop
03/28/24 3:43:54 PM
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RamenNoodles posted...
I read before some of the leaders and heads of BLM were scamming lots of money and stuff which sure didnt look good or help their cause


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emblem-man
03/28/24 4:01:19 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_reforms_related_to_the_George_Floyd_protests

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WalkingPlague
03/28/24 4:17:51 PM
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RamenNoodles posted...
I read before some of the leaders and heads of BLM were scamming lots of money and stuff which sure didnt look good or help their cause
youre right.

many events over the years from law enforcement have reignited discussions about racism, prompting the need for sincere conversations about past and present atrocities against the black community.

sadly, many still misunderstand the true essence of BLM, perpetuating its tarnished image among the ignorant masses.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
03/28/24 4:23:48 PM
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RamenNoodles posted...
I read before some of the leaders and heads of BLM were scamming lots of money and stuff which sure didnt look good or help their cause

Was my first thought.

Made money for some people.

I think one or two actually got busted for embezzlement.

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Umbreon
03/28/24 4:48:59 PM
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Increased awareness. Got a murderous cop sent to prison.

If BLM wasn't effective, we wouldn't have seen so many people try to shut it down.

A scamming ceo doesnt change that.

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ProfOaksAide
03/28/24 5:07:50 PM
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Trumble posted...
The problem is Americans' unwillingness to vote for anyone who isn't handpicked by one of the big two parties. Which of course will always be someone who can be and has been bought.

Vote for your candidate in the primaries

Or even run yourself!

Millenials seem to want to solve all of our problems anyway except through governance

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