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03/14/24 5:02:13 PM
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C_Pain
03/14/24 7:07:38 PM
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Feel like I'm always seeing differing things.

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archizzy
03/14/24 7:11:55 PM
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Not in my opinion. Have seen too many people require surgery after a chiropractor fucked them up and read too many medical sources that basically define it as pseudoscience.

The biggest issue to me is you have some legitimately good ones that basically treat it as actual physical therapy yet you have some that really leans into the "woo" and bullshit like healing crystals and other nonsense. I think they do a great disservice.

But you will always have the people that only know "well it helped me" or some family member of theirs so they accept it whole.

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DuuuDe14
03/14/24 7:13:19 PM
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There are a few that I would say are legit. The vast majority are not.

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furb
03/14/24 7:15:22 PM
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I figure it works like a good massage or something. Like for circulation and range of motion matters. I can see it being useful as part of physical therapy too.

It is clearly quackery insofar as a stuck joint is giving you a disease and so on. Pseudoscience at best with a dash of sugar pill placebo.


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Winterking
03/14/24 7:16:48 PM
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C_Pain posted...
Feel like I'm always seeing differing things.
I think chiropractic treatment can be legitimate. I think the mistake is conflating it with medicine.
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xGhostchantx
03/14/24 7:17:30 PM
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It's pseudoscience. The 'real' ones are occupational/physical therapists. There are small parts to it that are legit, but on the whole, it's mostly pseudoscience. There's a concerning overlap of chiropractors and anti-vaxxers

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UnholyMudcrab
03/14/24 7:17:37 PM
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Not only is it not legit, it can be actively dangerous to your health.

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Rexdragon125
03/14/24 7:17:42 PM
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Do NOT let them pop your neck. You're hundreds of times more likely to have a stroke.
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wanderingshade
03/14/24 7:18:13 PM
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They might help you with exercises and some stuff to help rounded shoulders or scoliosis, but going to get back cracks and ring dingers isn't going to help depression or insomnia and they're not really real primary care physicians.

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radical_rhino
03/14/24 7:19:54 PM
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Its not scientific (i.e. theres no evidence for any of their practices)

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hockeybabe89
03/14/24 7:20:21 PM
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It is not

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C_Pain
03/14/24 7:21:04 PM
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archizzy posted...
Not in my opinion. Have seen too many people require surgery after a chiropractor fucked them up and read too many medical sources that basically define it as pseudoscience.

The biggest issue to me is you have some legitimately good ones that basically treat it as actual physical therapy yet you have some that really leans into the "woo" and bullshit like healing crystals and other nonsense. I think they do a great disservice.

But you will always have the people that only know "well it helped me" or some family member of theirs so they accept it whole.
Oh yeah, for sure the alternative medicine aspects/claiming it can heal issues other than skeletal muscular ones are bunk. But for general manipulation, I've also seen some swear by it and others say it did nothing.

What are the regulations on it?

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LeoRavus
03/14/24 7:22:22 PM
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One broke my taekwondo instructor's neck. He had a neck brace on for months.

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HeeathLivesOn
03/14/24 7:22:33 PM
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archizzy posted...
Not in my opinion. Have seen too many people require surgery after a chiropractor fucked them up and read too many medical sources that basically define it as pseudoscience.

The biggest issue to me is you have some legitimately good ones that basically treat it as actual physical therapy yet you have some that really leans into the "woo" and bullshit like healing crystals and other nonsense. I think they do a great disservice.

But you will always have the people that only know "well it helped me" or some family member of theirs so they accept it whole.

Great post
I strongly detest pseudoscience, though I will note that the methods used do work for certain back issues if practiced properly (not so much the neck and other areas). The requirements to practice chiropractic are also more lax which doesn't help build confidence in using it.

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wanderingshade
03/14/24 7:25:00 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
One broke my taekwondo instructor's neck. He had a neck brace on for months.

Damn at least they didn't paralyze him and or tear his carotid.

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Zakawer3
03/14/24 7:47:12 PM
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Doubtful.

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NeonOPPAl
03/14/24 7:47:27 PM
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Nah

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Jiek_Fafn
03/14/24 7:49:56 PM
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Just go see a regular physical therapist

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Smackems
03/14/24 7:50:18 PM
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I work with an orthopedic doctor and he isn't against them, and in fact tells patients to continue seeing certain ones

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Yazarogi
03/14/24 9:00:13 PM
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It really just depends. Are you seeing a grifting piece of shit? OR someone who is actually interested in the medium and healing people. No, for the most part they aren't good. They can be used in tandem with actual PT to help alleviate some symptoms but they won't fix you if you need surgery or extensive PT.

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legendary_zell
03/14/24 9:05:14 PM
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As far as I can tell, their entire schtick is covered by actual occupational and physical therapists with proven track records and actual science behind them. Anything positive they due is coincidence, placebo, or folk medicine and could easily be replicated by a real therapist.

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trappedunderice
03/14/24 9:05:44 PM
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Who's getting the Ringer Dinger?
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NightRender
03/14/24 9:09:31 PM
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If all you want is your back cracked, sure whatever it's your money.

If someone's telling you that it's going to improve your liver function, I turn around and walk away.

Also, consider a Doctor of Osteopathic instead. They also perform manipulations, but get an education that's closer to an MD in the United States.

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pezzicle
03/14/24 9:12:00 PM
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Just go to physio

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vycebrand2
03/14/24 11:21:18 PM
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When I was younger it was needed. As I went through life, I never needed it. Till after my Bells palsy bout never had back pain. You would think so with my line of work 3T of feed every 3 weeks for 20 years. I walk with a slight tilt. I visited one about this time 2 years ago. It helped. I started having major back pain the last 6 months. I'm hesitant to go back. I don't know the real cause of the pain.

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HylianFox
03/14/24 11:22:54 PM
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I think it *can* help in certain cases for back problems, but it's not the miracle cure-all its practitioners insist that it is

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KiwiTerraRizing
03/14/24 11:24:02 PM
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No, I work in healthcare fraud and its all bullshit.

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MNThunder
03/15/24 2:48:35 AM
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NightRender posted...
Also, consider a Doctor of Osteopathic instead. They also perform manipulations, but get an education that's closer to an MD in the United States.

They get the exact same education in the US, only difference is the 80 hours of required OMM which the vast majority of DO's don't actually practice.
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TendoDRM
03/15/24 3:11:20 AM
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No, never go to a chiropractor.

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ThePieReborn
03/15/24 4:06:42 AM
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When I was in the process of preparing for my spinal fusion surgery some years ago, I distinctly remember my surgeon venting a bit about chiropractors when discussing my history of treatment when I mentioned seeing one for a brief time.

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Hejiru
03/15/24 4:47:42 AM
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Its as legit as healing crystals and homeopathy. That is, not at all.

Heck, the guy who invented said he learned it from a ghost.

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shironinja
03/15/24 4:48:51 AM
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It's a pseudo-science with rituals that may trigger a placebo effect.

Try it a couple times if you want but don't expect it to work (unless you really want it to).

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The_Popo
03/15/24 5:02:36 AM
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Ill always think its a scam.

Like 20 years ago, I pulled a muscle in my back. Nothing horrible I knew it would heal in like 2-3 days. My mom had an appointment at a chiropractor, and was trying to convince me I should go with her to get checked out. I was trying to tell her that this was a muscle issue, not a spinal issue, but I eventually went with her, just to appease her.

The first thing the chiropractor did when he took me back to the room was give me like a 5 minute presentation about why chiropractics are legit and should be consulted regularly. That seemed like a giant red flag to me. He then proceeded to crack my back in like 5 different ways, then hook me up to some machine with nodes attached to my back that did something with electric pulses for 10 minutes or so. And that was it.

My back was better in 2-3 days. Because that's how pulled muscles heal.

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Mew
03/15/24 5:05:42 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Just go see a regular physical therapist


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NhojAnec
03/15/24 5:07:41 AM
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@llennroc I remember a while back you were thinking of seeing a chiro.

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llennroc
03/15/24 8:38:20 AM
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NhojAnec posted...
@llennroc I remember a while back you were thinking of seeing a chiro.

nah I didnt want to do that. I think theres some merit in that field but some quackery as well

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Goldenguy
03/15/24 8:58:31 AM
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First three responses really summed it up well I think.

I know people who hear literally anything wrong with a person and say "hey, come get an adjustment!"

Like nah, my IBD isn't gonna go away with a nice hard massage.

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texanfan27
03/15/24 8:59:13 AM
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It does work, but its not a cure to long lasting problems, but instead a relief of symptoms.

Its great if you need work through a muscle ache or pinch nerve, but again, it wont fully treat the injury, just loosens it up to be less painful while healing.

My wife goes to one I know as she has arthritis in her back so she gets tuned up, she gets eloctrodes, back popping and a message table work up to completely loosen her back up roughly every two months (she works at a vet, lifting big dogs adds up). But taking care of herself, stretching and strengthening are what she fully needs to do to reduce the need for the tune-ups.

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bover_87
03/15/24 9:54:42 AM
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DuuuDe14 posted...
There are a few that I would say are legit. The vast majority are not.


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Notti
03/18/24 6:03:37 AM
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Scam, no better than cracking your knuckles

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Zwijn
03/18/24 6:06:12 AM
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No, everyone who says it is is full of shit and everyone who works in real healthcare laughs at the idea of this pseudoscience bullshit. Its just as real as homeopathy.
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Notti
03/21/24 8:00:25 AM
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And potentially paralyzing.

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hockeybabe89
03/21/24 8:38:49 AM
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The legitimacy in any "valid" chiropractor is the non-chiropractic parts, so it's inaccurate to say there is some validity. Chiropractic is pseudoscience. Go see a physical therapist or get checked out by a doctor practicing actual medicine.

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R_Jackal
03/21/24 8:46:42 AM
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When I was having back pain, my doctor explained it to me best I think. Basically said chiropractors are massage therapists, and good for non drug related pain relief while you pursue a more permanent solution through proper treatment, but you need to get a good one because there are serious risks.

Basically, they're there if your insurance won't pay for proper PT.
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