Current Events > It feels like we're on a collision course for a Trump win

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ssb_yunglink2 posted...

So im gonna assume you also agree with the Roe V Wade decision.

No, I do not.

Rosstin316 posted...

One thing I wonder is, if Trump does win, are Democrats and/or the DNC at all to blame in any way, shape or form?

The latest chud tactic is to say that it will be Bidens fault if Trump wins the election

Heineken14 posted...

The Colorado case that started all of this was purely from republicans.

Okay, and democrats pushed it through.

legendary_zell posted...

I'm not talking about people literally on this board. I mean the political approach he uses and represents. The establishment, anti-leftist, "vote blue" people. What he does is what the party does and it's not working.

My proposal is to focus on economics and abortion, to stop the war in Gaza, and to figure out some way to minimize the age discussion.

If you're not talking about the people literally on this board then what do you hope to gain by saying it here? The people on this board are the only ones your post is going to reach. If you just want to complain into the void, then that's fine, I can totally understand that feeling. But it's important you understand that no one in the political sphere is going to even be aware of your opinion, much less care about it. I don't say that to be rude, it's just a simple fact that no one among democrat leadership is browsing the Current Events message board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com looking for the opinions of random posters to inform their political strategy.

Rexdragon125 posted...

How convenient that people suddenly give a shit about Palestine when it's been going on for decades too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSCNSMDHb28

It's always projection

Are you just unaware of how people and history work? Events change how people view things, draw contrasts, open eyes, they make people go back and learn the history, or even just gross people out. Yes, a genocide effects how people view on ongoing tragedy.

People are begging us to just vote for Biden and ignore the fact that he is OPENLY SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE

Like What?

Tc should prepare to be branded a Trump supporter for making this topic

We're going to elect Donald Trump again and it'll be the last real election ever held. This is not an exaggeration, this is not 'doomposting'. It's just believing what they are openly saying. I'm terrified. There's a very strong possibility that Trump wins.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

No, I do not.

So why do you agree with one but not the other, considering you used the result of the Trump ballet case as a reason they shouldnt have done it?

Do you believe that Courts shouldnt challenge things if they think theres a chance it wont have a favorable decision in the supreme court?

You be surprised how many old Trump voters have died since 2020.

refmon posted...

People are begging us to just vote for Biden and ignore the fact that he is OPENLY SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE

Like What?

That's nice. How do you think Trump will solve the issue?

JimmyFraska posted...

Tc should prepare to be branded a Trump supporter for making this topic

Youre an actual self admitted Trump supporter. Go vote for your king and leave.

not a trump supporter, but the anti-biden tirade by young non-white voters is bleeding through the closer we get.

i have seen a rise in young non-white conservative voters BELIEVING trump was better for america during his four year term compared to bidens current run.

i watch luke beasley and david pakman on youtube. they both lay it all down versus mindless trump bots. however, i feel that isnt enough when misinformed new conservatives are blaming biden for: inflation, shrinkflation, homelessness, immigrants, fentanyl overdoses, housing crisis, human trafficking and election stealing.

refmon posted...

People are begging us to just vote for Biden and ignore the fact that he is OPENLY SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE

Like What?

It's more just asking people to think about things logically. It is 100% going to be either Biden or Trump as our next president. Absolutely nothing is going to change that.

Now, as the absolute best case scenario in regards to Palestine, is Trump will continue the same level of support as is going on now but it's more likely he would escalate things to make it worse. On top of that, he will 100% make things worse for Americans right here in America.

Do you want your shit sandwich to come with a bag of potato chips you may not like and a soda you do like or do you want your shit sandwich to have toxic sludge on it and come with someone stabbing you with a shard of a Nickelback CD?

I'm still mostly leaning towards Democrats winning in November (no politician drives up unenthusiastic voters like Donald Trump), but it really feels like Democrats are trying to botch what should be a clean victory this year.

Biden's age is not one of my concerns btw.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

So why do you agree with one but not the other, considering you used the result of the Trump ballet case as a reason they shouldnt have done it?

Because, believe it or not, people can have different views on different subjects.

But if you want to know the actual, functional difference between this decision and Roe v Wade? 4 whole justices.

A 5-4 decision is a lot murkier than a 9-0. I also think the ballot removal was very blatantly doomed to fail from the very beginning. Two different cases have two different outcomes and two separate sets of opinions. Go figure.

SydnieStarlight posted...

If you're not talking about the people literally on this board then what do you hope to gain by saying it here? The people on this board are the only ones your post is going to reach. If you just want to complain into the void, then that's fine, I can totally understand that feeling. But it's important you understand that no one in the political sphere is going to even be aware of your opinion, much less care about it. I don't say that to be rude, it's just a simple fact that no one among democrat leadership is browsing the Current Events message board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com looking for the opinions of random posters to inform their political strategy.

I'm referencing what happens here because what happens here is mirrored on the internet at large, in the media, and in the Biden campaign. The same dismissive, condescending, and fear reliant strategy is used.

This topic is meant to vent and to point out what I think it happening. It's obviously not going to change anything. But I do think it's worth talking about to see whether other people feel the same way and to see if there's any possibility of discussing a solution.

JimmyFraska posted...

Tc should prepare to be branded a Trump supporter for making this topic

You're a self-professed Trumper, are you feeling lonely?

refmon posted...

People are begging us to just vote for Biden and ignore the fact that he is OPENLY SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE

Like What?

Oh fuck, when did Biden say he supports genocide? Cause I'd agree that really would be a really shitty move.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I'm still mostly leaning towards Democrats winning in November (no politician drives up unenthusiastic voters like Donald Trump), but it really feels like Democrats are trying to botch what should be a clean victory this year.

Biden's age is not one of my concerns btw.

If people on the left include people echoing the above quoted sentiments, then yes, it does feel like certain people on the left (assuming they are legitimate) are trying to fuck things up if they can't strong-arm the party into perfectly representing all their viewpoints.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

You're a self-professed Trumper, are you feeling lonely?

Yes

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Because, believe it or not, people can have different views on different subjects.

But if you want to know the actual, functional difference between this decision and Roe v Wade? 4 whole justices.

A 5-4 decision is a lot murkier than a 9-0. I also think the ballot removal was very blatantly doomed to fail from the very beginning. Two different cases have two different outcomes and two separate sets of opinions. Go figure.

So whyd you just blatantly leave out the second half of my post?

Do you believe that Courts shouldnt challenge things if they think theres a chance it wont have a favorable decision in the supreme court?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Do you believe that Courts shouldnt challenge things if they think theres a chance it wont have a favorable decision in the supreme court?

I think there's a real answer to this question, which is: "Of course these things should be challenged and put through the process, it's literally what the courts are for"

And there's an answer for things that are very clearly politically motivated: "You should really only start a process like this if you're sure that you can win, because otherwise you're going to show up in a campaign ad that says you 'tried to destroy democracy by taking choice away from the people, only to be struck down 9-0 by the Supreme Court'"

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I think there's a real answer to this question, which is: "Of course these things should be challenged and put through the process, it's literally what the courts are for"

And there's an answer for things that are very clearly politically motivated: "You should really only start a process like this if you're sure that you can win, because otherwise you're going to show up in a campaign ad that says you 'tried to destroy democracy by taking choice away from the people, only to be struck down 9-0 by the Supreme Court'"

The argument was constitutionally sound. Someone who incited insurrection cannot be president, and it says nothing about an insurrection conviction. Its not politically motivated for a judge to believe Trump is responsible for the insurrection attempt on Jan 6th.

part of the chud playbook is saying 'you're just playing into his hands!' every time you do something they don't like.

refmon posted...

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Pretty sure this user is another Trump supporter.

refmon posted...

People are begging us to just vote for Biden and ignore the fact that he is OPENLY SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE

Like What?

When you're old enough to vote you'll understand
a) war is not genocide
b) the other guy is going to be even harder on Palestine and that's bad

refmon posted...

the fact that he is OPENLY SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE

And Trump wouldn't? If this is the hill you're dying on, it's not going to matter who you vote for.

At this point, we all know it's going to be Biden vs Trump on the ballot.

I can't imagine there's any significant amount of people out there that still need to be convinced one way or the other.

We all know who we're voting for. No on is having their mind's changed at this point.

Only question is will the "Not Trump" voters come out in full force a second time.

JimmyFraska posted...

Yes

Good.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

The argument was constitutionally sound.

Maybe by some interpretations. The Supreme Court seemed to disagree 9-0. If it was 5-4, even 6-3, you might have a convincing argument for an unfair or unjust ruling.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

Good.

I agree.

Didn't somebody find that the metadata suggested that on initial draft there was at least 1 dissenting opinion or something?

theAteam posted...

You be surprised how many old Trump voters have died since 2020.

How many, exactly? Are the deaths spread out among the whole country, or are there specific states where the deaths are clustered? Because if not enough of those Christofascist bastards ended up winning Herman Cain Awards (or died by other means, such as old age, cancer, "Hold mah beer" stunts, getting killed by people who were defending themselves from them, etc.) in the right places, then from an electoral standpoint, Trump's horrendous botching of the US's response to COVID (such that I can honestly say that he is directly responsible for having killed millions of Americans) won't have hurt him much, if at all.

CheshireSimper posted...

Didn't somebody find that the metadata suggested that on initial draft there was at least 1 dissenting opinion or something?

Does that change the final result?

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Does that change the final result?

Sometimes the way you get to a result matters.

CheshireSimper posted...

Sometimes the way you get to a result matters.

Okay, but did it change the final result?

All of the smug Democratic users on here are going to have a surprised Pikachu face on election day the rate this is going. Trump has a very real chance of winning, unfortunately. Ignoring polls or current political trends is not helping whatsoever.

chaos_knight posted...

All of the smug Democratic users on here are going to have a surprised Pikachu face on election day the rate this is going.

the rate what is going?

I have enough passing familiarity to know what you're about TC and always appreciate reading your perspectives.

This isn't a person trying to ass pull some both sides/ trump supporter trolling nonsense y'all

Go outside

CSCA33 posted...

I have enough passing familiarity to know what you're about TC and always appreciate reading your perspectives.

This isn't a person trying to ass pull some both sides/ trump supporter trolling nonsense y'all

Easy now, they dont like nuance here.

CSCA33 posted...

I have enough passing familiarity to know what you're about TC and always appreciate reading your perspectives.

This isn't a person trying to ass pull some both sides/ trump supporter trolling nonsense y'all

This is correct, but the people on this board don't ever care. They think legitimate discourse is trolling. Anything less than fealty to Biden means you're a right winger.

or maybe people don't like reading the same shit over and over in MARCH of an election year...

CrimsonGear80 posted...

the rate what is going?

this

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Once again the democrats are fumbling their counter strategy and handing him victories he never should have gotten. They literally took him off the ballot as a symbolic gesture, and now the Supreme Court slapped them down 9-0.

Trump now has that ammunition to run on. That 9-0 court decision in his favor is going to run very well in campaign ads, even if the truth is that he's still under legal trouble in dozens of other cases and situations.

If Trump loses 30 cases, but that one case still stands as a 9-0 victory, all he has to do is go up there in front of his followers and brag about that 9-0. His followers will eat it up, spread it around, use it as proof that they're "still not tired of winning."

It was a massive, massive blunder to do that..

Please. We all know he declares and repeats stories about victories that don't exist all the time. The reality of an actually victory is completely optional.

It takes some serious balls for a party with a 77 year old candidate to suggest being old is a bad thing for the president to be. What exactly is the line for old, anything older than their guy?

CrimsonGear80 posted...

or maybe people don't like reading the same shit over and over in MARCH of an election year...

Do you want them to wait til October when its too late to do anything about it?

PraetorXyn posted...

Do you want them to wait til October when its too late to do anything about it?

what exactly is anyone here going to do about anything?

CrimsonGear80 posted...

what exactly is anyone here going to do about anything?

What is anyone here going to do about politics period?

PraetorXyn posted...

Do you want them to wait til October when its too late to do anything about it?

I mean I'll be voting Biden just the same, but just as complacency can work against us (2016), hopeless can still deter people if they believe there isn't a reason to think their vote will help.