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SaikyoStyle
03/05/24 1:15:53 PM
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If she did call it a genocide, what would the alt-right shit merchants say then?

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03/05/24 1:17:13 PM
#52:


It's exhausting just watching all these Israel/Palestine topics take their course.

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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 1:18:24 PM
#53:


Ricemills posted...
See? This is always been your problem.
You took a very small sample and presents it as representative of the majority.
You're trying to make all protesters looks bad.
You even picked twitter posts with single digit of like and retweet to make it looks big.

Like i said, you're just a twitter propaganda machine
Someone here lacks reading comprehension.
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ssb_yunglink2
03/05/24 1:20:47 PM
#54:


Umbreon posted...
CountCorvinus is being quoted a lot.
Hmm interesting. Wonder what i did to piss them off lol

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CountCorvinus
03/05/24 1:21:01 PM
#55:


Humble_Novice posted...
Except that it's AOC they shouldn't even be confronting to begin with. Alienating officials who do care about Gaza helps no one.

And yet she can't call it a genocide and voted "present" for funding Israel's Iron Dome.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
03/05/24 1:21:17 PM
#56:


Humble_Novice posted...
Why would you even say this? As someone who identifies as LGBTQ+, I have no reason to throw other members of the community into the bus.
You're already being very critical of people criticizing Biden backing the Isreal genocide of Palestine.

Shadow_Don posted...
As opposed to do nothing and let trump win

And then do nothing when they purge trans people because you're not going to be one of their targets

Stunning and brave. I wish I had the courage that you had.
(Spit take)

Jesus Christ, this is the kind of creature you've got in your side, Humble Novice.

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ironman2009
03/05/24 1:22:22 PM
#57:


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Monkey_Shines
03/05/24 1:23:55 PM
#58:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Hmm interesting. Wonder what i did to piss them off lol
Did you forget to switch accts?

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Ricemills
03/05/24 1:24:38 PM
#59:


Humble_Novice posted...
Someone here lacks reading comprehension.
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You still don't get it do you?
Do you think that you're admitting that you pick a small sample help your case?

Let me say it again
You took a very small sample and presents it as representative of the majority.
You're trying to make all protesters looks bad.
You even picked twitter posts with single digit of like and retweet to make it looks big.

Like i said, you're just a twitter propaganda machine

You're trying to make a nothing burger into a big thing. Like propagandist do.

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Shadow_Don
03/05/24 1:25:05 PM
#60:


Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Jesus Christ, this is the kind of creature you've got in your side, Humble Novice.

Yea im a subhuman "creature" because i advocate for *checks notes* voting to protect lgbt and women's rights.


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ssb_yunglink2
03/05/24 1:27:08 PM
#61:


Monkey_Shines posted...
Did you forget to switch accts?
uh. No? I said i was blocked by people here, that poster responded that one person was being quoted a lot, so im probably blocked by that person. I was wondering what i couldve said that made them block me.

How does it seem like i forgot to switch accounts

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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 1:27:36 PM
#62:


Shadow_Don posted...
Yea im a subhuman "creature" because i advocate for *checks notes* voting to protect lgbt and women's rights.
The problem with certain folks is that they think votes should be earned, not handed out. The problem with that attitude is that it makes things easier for fascists to take over.

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Umbreon
03/05/24 1:30:01 PM
#63:


Shadow_Don posted...
Yea im a subhuman "creature" because i advocate for *checks notes* voting to protect lgbt and women's rights.


I can't speak for Raxis, but I was personally a little confused over your post given the context.

Raxis argued that Humble would be willing to give up on supporting trans rights for the sake of votes. You said "As opposed to letting Trump win" which, given the context, made it look like you were arguing for an either or scenario.


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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 1:30:17 PM
#64:


CountCorvinus posted...
And yet she can't call it a genocide and voted "present" for funding Israel's Iron Dome.
That was in 2021, and she already apologized for that.

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emblem-man
03/05/24 1:30:25 PM
#65:


CountCorvinus posted...
funding Israel's Iron Dome.

Funding the iron dome seems like a fine. It's purely defensive right? Or is there more to this vote that I'm missing?
Israel is a rich country and should find their own weapons so I'm fine with cutting aid. Highlighting the iron dome seems a weird one to focus on though. Seems like the least offensive way to support them.
Hell, I wish Gaza had one as well.

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emblem-man
03/05/24 1:32:15 PM
#66:


Humble_Novice posted...
That was in 2021, and she already apologized for that.
Why did she apologize for that?

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CountCorvinus
03/05/24 1:34:03 PM
#67:


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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 1:34:40 PM
#68:


emblem-man posted...
Why did she apologize for that?
This is why: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-apologizes-after-tearful-present-vote-on-israel-iron-dome-funding-bill/

However, Ocasio-Cortezs decision to effectively abstain attracted ire from some liberal supporters.

Normally I find AOC a person with moral values This time though, as a few other times, I must say she shouldve stuck with other Squad members, wrote one person on Twitter. Another said, AOC primes people to believe she will never compromise, then does. Meanwhile, an opinion piece accused her vote of being a tactical mess and a worst-of-both-worlds solution, and suggested that it indicated she could have higher political ambitions.

Describing her actions in her letter, Ocasio-Cortez wrote: Yes, I wept. I wept at the complete lack of care for the human beings that are impacted by these decisions, I wept at an institution choosing a path of maximum volatility and minimum consideration for its own political convenience.

She added: To those I have disappointed I am deeply sorry. To those who believe this reasoning is insufficient or cowardice I understand.

She was not explicit about the reasons for her change of heart but hinted at a lack of time for substantive community consultation, as well as hateful targeting and the creation of an atmospheric tinderbox of vitriol.

The $1 billion funding for the Iron Dome system, which is designed to counter short-range rockets and mortars from Gaza militants, was originally part of the wider government spending bill. However some liberals threatened to vote it down, upending the entire spending package.

As a result, Democratic leaders opted to instead strip out the Israel funding provision and make it a stand-alone bill, which passed Thursday. The procedural maneuver, however, flared tensions among Democrats, with Ocasio-Cortez slamming the process as deeply unjust.

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Shadow_Don
03/05/24 1:40:42 PM
#69:


Umbreon posted...
I can't speak for Raxis, but I was personally a little confused over your post given the context.

Raxis argued that Humble would be willing to give up on supporting trans rights for the sake of votes. You said "As opposed to letting Trump win" which, given the context, made it look like you were arguing for an either or scenario.

I mean honestly... if it was a choice between dems who are not doing enough to support and advocate for trans rights vs Republicans who are openly expressing their intent to mass murder trans people

And you sat the election in "support" of trans people then yea you're a piece of shit.

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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 1:43:48 PM
#70:


Shadow_Don posted...
I mean honestly... if it was a choice between dems who are not doing enough to support and advocate for trans rights vs Republicans who are openly expressing their intent to mass murder trans people

And you sat the election in "support" of trans people then yea you're a piece of shit.
And even then, voters are more likely to convince Democrats to make more progressive policies than they would with Republicans. Obama, for instance, didn't initially support gay marriage rights until it became popular with the people.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/05/24 1:44:38 PM
#71:


Shadow_Don posted...
I mean honestly... if it was a choice between dems who are not doing enough to support and advocate for trans rights vs Republicans who are openly expressing their intent to mass murder trans people

And you sat the election in "support" of trans people then yea you're a piece of shit.
But that is a different scenario from no longer advocating for trans rights because it may cost votes.

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Vyrulisse
03/05/24 1:44:57 PM
#72:


CountCorvinus posted...
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This isn't the gotcha you think it is.
She never said they can't do what they did, she just said they are barking up the wrong tree for the wrong reasons pretty much. She supports them, they were attacking her because she didn't use the word they were demanding.

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sfcalimari
03/05/24 1:48:16 PM
#73:


"I'm sure the leopards wouldn't eat my face!"

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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 1:50:27 PM
#74:


sfcalimari posted...
"I'm sure the leopards wouldn't eat my face!"
Sorry, but I actually like AOC as a politician and think she doesn't deserve to be harassed by folks who should be her natural allies.

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Ricemills
03/05/24 1:53:45 PM
#75:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Pro-Palestine as a movement is a good thing. That doesnt mean every protestor or protest is fully immune to criticism, like with what happened here.

I understand your beef with TC, but you quite obviously are derailing a legitimate topic.

My beef with TC started years ago in 261, where he cheered on Duterte and Trump relationship because they both are "tough on crime". My tag on him still the same since that day, "Filipino Trumper".


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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 1:55:55 PM
#76:


Ricemills posted...
My beef with TC started years ago in 261, where he cheered on Duterte and Trump relationship because they both are "tough on crime". My tag on him still the same since that day, "Filipino Trumper".
You ought to stop letting your personal grudges cloud your reasoning here then. Also, I'm not a Trump supporter.

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Shadow_Don
03/05/24 1:57:27 PM
#77:


Ricemills posted...
where he cheered on Duterte and Trump relationship because they both are "tough on crime"

Zero chance this happened

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Umbreon
03/05/24 1:58:52 PM
#78:


Shadow_Don posted...
I mean honestly... if it was a choice between dems who are not doing enough to support and advocate for trans rights vs Republicans who are openly expressing their intent to mass murder trans people

And you sat the election in "support" of trans people then yea you're a piece of shit.


Sitting out is the moral equalvent of saying "I'm fine if the latter occurs" so I agree with that.

I figured you weren't saying "It's fine to sacrifice trans people".

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Ricemills
03/05/24 1:59:36 PM
#79:


Humble_Novice posted...
You ought to stop letting your personal grudges cloud your reasoning here then. Also, I'm not a Trump supporter.

Now yes, but around 2017 you said things like Trump is needed because he have no mercy on criminals.

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CountCorvinus
03/05/24 2:00:17 PM
#80:


Humble_Novice posted...
Sorry, but I actually like AOC as a politician and think she doesn't deserve to be harassed by folks who should be her natural allies.

Then she should really just call it what it is. A genocide. The protestors aren't wrong.

This is AOC on Meet The Press. skip to 8:20. She says "they're sill determining it". This was last month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ1rPGvmKyA&t=500s


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Umbreon
03/05/24 2:00:32 PM
#81:


Ricemills posted...
My beef with TC started years ago in 261, where he cheered on Duterte and Trump relationship because they both are "tough on crime". My tag on him still the same since that day, "Filipino Trumper".

I... legitimately do not recall Humble ever support Trump.

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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 2:02:56 PM
#82:


Ricemills posted...
Now yes, but around 2017 you said things like Trump is needed because he have no mercy on criminals.
I'm not sure I remember saying that, but I do recall being willing to give Duterte a slight chance because the corruption problem was so bad in the Philippines. And that was before I saw how many people ended up dying due to his draconian laws.

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Ricemills
03/05/24 2:06:05 PM
#83:


Humble_Novice posted...
I'm not sure I remember saying that, but I do recall being willing to give Duterte a slight chance because the corruption problem was so bad in the Philippines. And that was before I saw how many people ended up dying due to his draconian laws.

It was not just a slight chance, you were trying to justify Duterte's "kill anyone that's suspected as a drug dealer" policy. The one that let civilians to lynch. And on the same breath, you said Trump's is good because he's tough on crime too.

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CountCorvinus
03/05/24 2:07:44 PM
#84:


Ricemills posted...
It was not just a slight chance, you were trying to justify Duterte's "kill anyone that's suspected as a drug dealer" policy. The one that let civilians to lynch. And on the same breath, you said Trump's is good because he's tough on crime too.

Yikes

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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 2:08:45 PM
#85:


Ricemills posted...
It was not just a slight chance, you were trying to justify Duterte's "kill anyone that's suspected as a drug dealer" policy. The one that let civilians to lynch. And on the same breath, you said Trump's is good because he's tough on crime too.
Do you have a screenshot of that post? Because I've been far more anti-Trump in the past few years in 261. In fact, I don't understand why you've never called me out until now.

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03/05/24 2:09:24 PM
#86:


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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 2:11:12 PM
#87:


CountCorvinus posted...
Then she should really just call it what it is. A genocide. The protestors aren't wrong.
What could you possibly gain from endangering her position. Do you want her to be replaced by someone who's more sympathetic to Israel than Palestine?

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Ricemills
03/05/24 2:11:37 PM
#88:


Humble_Novice posted...
Do you have a screenshot of that post? Because I've been far more anti-Trump in the past few years in 261. In fact, I don't understand why you've never called me out until now.

I never called you out because i left 261.
Everything was fine, until fucking 261 comes to CE.

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ReiRei89
03/05/24 2:11:51 PM
#89:


Ricemills posted...
Now yes, but around 2017 you said things like Trump is needed because he have no mercy on criminals.
As a 261 Native you're lying or misremembering. Humble has always been against Trump even before 2017.

In fact it almost sounds like you're accusing him of something THO said except you haven't brought up landmines yet. THO was very pro Trump and Duterte and wanted to blow up Mexican immigrants with landmines.

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hereforemnant
03/05/24 2:12:12 PM
#90:


I can't vouch for Humble and the Duterte/Trump shit, but he most definitely is one of the most annoying terminally online representations of liberalism.

He combs through twitter all day posting 30+ tweets & screenshots of random people no one gives a shit about because discourse goes to die on Twitter, then he whinges about "the left" just like a regressive would about how they're acting. Then he rinses & repeats about a different topic each time on a subject frankly no one gives a shit about.

You're not going to stop random people from being idiots on Twitter, & we don't need tweets from pieces of shit like Andy Ngo to know that they're going to weaponize leftist infighting. They're consistent on being shit, we know that. His posts always have a smug holier than thou vibe just like most liberals I see online besides David Pakman.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/05/24 2:13:17 PM
#91:


Ricemills posted...
Now yes, but around 2017 you said things like Trump is needed because he have no mercy on criminals.
2017 was a long time ago. Hell, ill fully admit that at that point in my life I thought Trump wouldnt be bad. I was 17 then, and 23 now, and my views are like the polar opposite of what they were back then, after actually experiencing the world.

I dont think its fair to hold a permanent grudge for someone saying stupid things in the past, especially if theyve shown they dont believe those things anymore.

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Humble_Novice
03/05/24 2:20:52 PM
#92:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
2017 was a long time ago. Hell, ill fully admit that at that point in my life I thought Trump wouldnt be bad. I was 17 then, and 23 now, and my views are like the polar opposite of what they were back then, after actually experiencing the world.

I dont think its fair to hold a permanent grudge for someone saying stupid things in the past, especially if theyve shown they dont believe those things anymore.
Back then, I was more ignorant when it came to politics. You could say that Trump ruining the country led to my own political awakening.

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CountCorvinus
03/05/24 2:27:53 PM
#93:


Humble_Novice posted...
What could you possibly gain from endangering her position. Do you want her to be replaced by someone who's more sympathetic to Israel than Palestine?

I'd say AOC giving these long ass politician speak answers to avoid calling the ongoing massacre in Palestine a genocide is harming her reputation far more than if she'd just be honest.

Who do you think her base is?

hereforemnant posted...
He combs through twitter all day posting 30+ tweets & screenshots of random people no one gives a shit about because discourse goes to die on Twitter, then he whinges about "the left" just like a regressive would about how they're acting. Then he rinses & repeats about a different topic each time on a subject frankly no one gives a shit about.

You're not going to stop random people from being idiots on Twitter, & we don't need tweets from pieces of shit like Andy Ngo to know that they're going to weaponize leftist infighting. They're consistent on being shit, we know that.

this x100

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03/05/24 2:29:13 PM
#94:


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03/05/24 2:30:34 PM
#95:


Soon you'll be "pro-genocide" for not denouncing your American citizenship and moving to Gaza.

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streamofthesky
03/05/24 2:33:26 PM
#96:


Yes, she deserves it. In the same way every single other "leopards ate my face" instance deserves it.

Don't get in bed w/ extremists. FAFO.
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CountCorvinus
03/05/24 2:38:22 PM
#97:


streamofthesky posted...
Yes, she deserves it. In the same way every single other "leopards ate my face" instance deserves it.

Don't get in bed w/ extremists. FAFO.

Ah yes, the couple extremists outside of a movie theatre who were asking AOC why she avoids calling a genocide a genocide.


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bigblu89
03/05/24 2:43:23 PM
#98:


OK. All the BS in this thread aside, from the protestors point of view, what does getting in her face accomplish?

Do they have a list of people that have and haven't called it genocide, and just cross people's names off as they publicly call it genocide?

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
03/05/24 2:46:28 PM
#99:


Umbreon posted...
I can't speak for Raxis, but I was personally a little confused over your post given the context.

Raxis argued that Humble would be willing to give up on supporting trans rights for the sake of votes. You said "As opposed to letting Trump win" which, given the context, made it look like you were arguing for an either or scenario.
That.

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emblem-man
03/05/24 2:58:14 PM
#100:


bigblu89 posted...
OK. All the BS in this thread aside, from the protestors point of view, what does getting in her face accomplish?

Do they have a list of people that have and haven't called it genocide, and just cross people's names off as they publicly call it genocide?

I'd guess they think the more [Democratic] politicians they can get to use the word, the stronger the cause will be for more action against Israel.

The thing is, AOC has already called it a mass killing of civilians and has publicly stated her support for a ceasefire. So I'm not really sure what they get from having her specifically say it.

She's already on their side in terms of actual political policy!!

Go hound fetterman (well I think they're already doing this) or all the Republican politicians who are staunchly pro Israel

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