Current Events > Just watched Spiderman Across the Spiderverse and its a masterpiece (SPOILERS)

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This is coming from someone who wasn't even big on into the spiderverse and thought it was one of the more overrated movies. I cant even explain why it didnt resonate with me outside of the miles/prowler dynamic.

The darker tone helps. I feel like there isnt one moment of filler. Spot works in a fun way. Miles family dynamic is the best of any spiderman. So many great callbacks to other spiderman moments. Gwens backstory was amazing. As a man of indian ethnicity it was cool seeing that part and I had an uncle who was literally Captain Singh, looks to the rank to name aha so that worked for me.

I think this tops no way home as my favorite spiderman movie (I get it, no way home was popular so its cool to hate on it now).

Im complely amazed by this. The ending was as good as cliffhangers get.

Initial reaction is 10/10. Im thinking its my runner up animated goat movie next to lion king

Up until today i wanted disney to take the spiderman movie license back from sony....now i just want them to take the live action license back lol. Sony isnt making a live action spiderman movie as good as marvel does anymore and disney isnt making an animated movie like this

I decided it's my favorite Spider-Man movie. Its so good and they captured the spirit of Spider-Man's refusal to never let anyone die

Strongly disagree. Long, drawn out, and no conclusion.

voldothegr8 posted...

Strongly disagree. Long, drawn out, and no conclusion.

The conclusion is coming in part 3

It was very good, but a little long for my kids to sit through.

Zikten posted...

The conclusion is coming in part 3

I think wanting a movie to have a conclusion and not waiting 2-3 years for one is a valid criticism

That said as far as cliffhangers go, this was one of the better ones. See what miles becomes with no spiderman which leads to no dad

Well originally I think part 3 was going to be out like around now. But the Hollywood strike ruined that plan

Zikten posted...

The conclusion is coming in part 3

I get that and not saying it's bad, but it's certainly not a masterpiece.

voldothegr8 posted...

Long, drawn out, and no conclusion.

I really liked the first one and was pretty hyped and disappointed with the sequel.

An underappreciated part of films is the very start with the studio logos and the music setting the mood. AtS has one of the best opening logos I've ever seen, a hell of a first impression where you know you're in for something good.

GOAT comic book movie

boxoto posted...

GOAT comic book movie

Im not there but it definitely hits top 10

I will say in thr year everyone cried comic book fatigue...we got 2 of the best ones in guardians 3 and across the spiderverse

I fucking loved this movie. The vibes it created were just something special to me, even when compared to the first one.

Miguels first appearance with his music playing was awesome

Blue_Popo posted...

Im not there but it definitely hits top 10

I will say in thr year everyone cried comic book fatigue...we got 2 of the best ones in guardians 3 and across the spiderverse

when I say "GOAT", I usually mean s-tier, so there can be multiple options.

boxoto posted...

when I say "GOAT", I usually mean s-tier, so there can be multiple options.

The GOAT for me is infinity war

voldothegr8 posted...

and no conclusion.

Hahah still cracks me up

Like, yeah, fuckin DUH bro

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

Hahah still cracks me up

Like, yeah, fuckin DUH bro

Cliffhangers dont always work but this one did

I think what worked for me here that didnt in one was the removal of the side characters. I didnt care about spider pig, anime robot girl or even noir. I liked that they trimmed the fat but looks like they are all coming back

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

Hahah still cracks me up

Like, yeah, fuckin DUH bro

I legit didn't know going in it was a two-parter, also didn't know it was 2 1/2 hours until I went to buy the tickets. Kids were already pumped, point of no return. They could have easily trimmed that down to 2 hours.

I really liked it, but it having no real ending is definitely a black mark against it. Like it's one thing to leave a sequel hook like the first one did, this one ends halfway through the story.

pegusus123456 posted...

I really liked it, but it having no real ending is definitely a black mark against it. Like it's one thing to leave a sequel hook like the first one did, this one ends halfway through the story.

Eh, i definitely wouldnt go so far as to stay it stops halfway through. Its obviously a big cliffhanger, but a LOT happens in the movie, and i dont think it was a bad place to end it at all.

While I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece, it is definitely a great movie and easily one of the best spiderman movies.

I consider it a masterpiece. It's my favorite movie in a very long time.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Eh, i definitely wouldnt go so far as to stay it stops halfway through. Its obviously a big cliffhanger, but a LOT happens in the movie, and i dont think it was a bad place to end it at all.

Don't get me wrong, a lot happens, but none of it is actually resolved. The problem is that it's a five hour movie, but a five hour movie is insane to put in theaters.

I have no real flaws with it

For as much complaining as people do, 2023 gave me some fire nerd media.

Guardians 3
Spiderverse 2
Godzilla minus 1
Last of us
Gen v

It's pretty awesome, yeah.

The part where Miles & Gwen are just sitting together upside down and it flips your perspective of the city was one of my favorite parts, getting a glimpse into something unique they do so casually cause they can.

Also the colors of the different universes was sweet.

Kradek posted...

It's pretty awesome, yeah.

The part where Miles & Gwen are just sitting together upside down and it flips your perspective of the city was one of my favorite parts, getting a glimpse into something unique they do so casually cause they can.

Also the colors of the different universes was sweet.

I agree on that moment especially and it stuck with me. This movie really does take advantage of animated to do stuff that is difficult or impossible in live action. That was a stand out scene for me. Gwen really impressed me in this movie, she definitely got more spotlight. Hailee is such a beast. She was amazing in hawkeye and this (that and shes gorgeous).

Side note: was the captain who dies in mcu spiderman world iron man? Hes the closest thing

Blue_Popo posted...

Side note: was the captain who dies in mcu spiderman world iron man? Hes the closest thing

Which captain? Captain Stacey?

And yes I concur with the rest of your post.

Blue_Popo posted...

Side note: was the captain who dies in mcu spiderman world iron man? Hes the closest thing

I don't know that the movie meant to imply that every Spider-Man has all of the canon events, just that there are certain events which can't be changed if they're going to happen. Like Gwen is relieved when her father quits being a police captain because that means she's not going to lose him in that canon event, but she's not subsequently worried that her universe is going to collapse.

In any case, I imagine it's going to turn out that canon events are actually bullshit.

I really enjoyed it too.

I thought it was a big step down from the first, actually.

Maybe i am not remembering correctly but it was stated that when someone that is a captain in aspidermans life dies, its a canon event. Seems like the closest thing for mcu peter is tony stark. Had an authority role in his life and the same dying position as the captain's of the others. Aunt may was his uncle ben/prowler/peter parker

pegusus123456 posted...

I don't know that the movie meant to imply that every Spider-Man has all of the canon events, just that there are certain events which can't be changed if they're going to happen. Like Gwen is relieved when her father quits being a police captain because that means she's not going to lose him in that canon event, but she's not subsequently worried that her universe is going to collapse.

In any case, I imagine it's going to turn out that canon events are actually bullshit.

Yeah, the point of Spider verse is that many universes share canon events, however they don't all exist simultaneously.

The Stacey's didn't even exist in the McGuire or Holland universe and Holland didn't have the "with great power, comes great responsibility" speech from his uncle, but his aunt.

So many universes have a captain whose death is a canon event in making Spiderman who they are, however others have different canon events since they have no connection to a captain.

TendoDRM posted...

I thought it was a big step down from the first, actually.

Im the opposite. I didnt care for 1. I liked the prowler parts, the style but it was too goofy and the other spider people didnt click with me

This hit in such a way that i am shocked

Blue_Popo posted...

Maybe i am not remembering correctly but it was stated that when someone that is a captain in aspidermans life dies, its a canon event. Seems like the closest thing for mcu peter is tony stark. Had an authority role in his life and the same dying position as the captain's of the others. Aunt may was his uncle ben/prowler/peter parker

That's only if they have a close relation to a Captain, who seems to almost always be the father of Spiderman's girlfriend, and in the case of Miles his father.

McGuire and Holland don't have any ties to Captains, not even through their girlfriends.

Likewise, people who have the captain's death as their canon event may not necessarily have Uncle Bens who die and give the speech.

Garfield got fucked over hard cause he had both happen to him AND lost Gwen, which is probably another canon event that doesn't happen to everybody, as once again we see Spidermen who don't even interact with a Gwen Stacey and as far as we know doesn't exist in that universe.

The neat thing about the Spiderverse is that they're not just carbon copies where every detail is there and carries over to every other universe, yet many of them share a ton of similarities.

Oh, almost forgot, Spidergwen doesn't even have/lose an Uncle Ben, her big loss was Peter Parker, her best friend, after he became the Lizard.

Mcu holland lost quite a bit, his mentor and his aunt. Hes on par with garfield. Big losses plus alone

I am so glad they went with Spot. He works so well in animated and the things he can do are interesting. Live action I feel he would be hard to adapt

This should be the space sony operate in. I cant believe the studio that made this made madam web after this

MCU Peter definitely had it worst lmao

Like yeah, your high school sweetheart dying in your arms isn't the best, but Holland Peter lost his uncle, got dusted for five years, lose his mentor, indirectly killed his aunt, then had his entire existence erased.

pegusus123456 posted...

MCU Peter definitely had it worst lmao

Like yeah, your high school sweetheart dying in your arms isn't the best, but Holland Peter lost his uncle, got dusted for five years, lose his mentor, indirectly killed his aunt, then had his entire existence erased.

O yeah i forgot the dying for 5 years part lol

Also having to fight thanos is bullshit. At least the other spideys never had to fight someone that far out of their weight class

Blue_Popo posted...

Mcu holland lost quite a bit, his mentor and his aunt. Hes on par with garfield. Big losses plus alone

It's not about comparing the loss, it's about pointing out the differences between universes that show not every single detail, such as a captain dying, is something they'll all experience.

Though you do also bring up a good point, in that only Holland lost someone on Iron Man's level, every other Spiderman we've seen was not part of a group and didn't have the iconic Stark-Spiderman relationship from the comics.

Blue_Popo posted...

I am so glad they went with Spot. He works so well in animated and the things he can do are interesting. Live action I feel he would be hard to adapt

Yeah, it was pretty clever to take one of the biggest joke enemies from Spiderman's comics (which they reference in the movie), and turn him into one of the most badass villains. I also like his personality, that beginning in the convenience store when trying to steal the ATM was great.

It was alright, same as the first, although the plot twist later concerning the cause of the shattering didn't make much sense. Whats so special about spiderman that certain events in his life absolutely had to happen to prevent the collapse of the freaking multiverse?

And why were said events so inconsistent? A peter has to become spiderman but not always, a peter has to die but not always, and the police chief of somebody close to them has to die except if they dont have one or they never become chief.....which shouldnt matter at all in regards to him having to die is enough to brake the cycle because....plot and so Miles can be in the right even though hes certainly not and just being selfish.

Prismsblade posted...

It was alright, same as the first, although the plot twist later concerning the cause of the shattering didn't make much sense. Whats so special about spiderman that certain events in his life absolutely had to happen to prevent the collapse of the freaking multiverse?

And why were said events so inconsistent? A peter has to become spiderman but not always, a peter has to die but not always, and the police chief of somebody close to them has to die except if they dont have one or they never become chief.....which shouldnt matter at all in regards to him having to die is enough to brake the cycle because....plot and so Miles can be in the right even though hes certainly not and just being selfish.

Not just this movie but other multiverse movies make it to easy to destroy a universe from earth. Mcu does this as well. Its dumb but i guess ive gotten used to it

Prismsblade posted...

It was alright, same as the first, although the plot twist later concerning the cause of the shattering didn't make much sense. Whats so special about spiderman that certain events in his life absolutely had to happen to prevent the collapse of the freaking multiverse?

I don't think Spider-Man himself is more important than anyone else, Miguel is just the one who started it all and he's filtering it through his own Spider-Man lens.

Though I do think there is some weird comic book shit about a Web of Life or something. That's where Madame Web, the real one not the lol movie one, gets her powers.

And I said it before, but I'd be very surprised if the third movie doesn't show that canon events are just Miguel coping

pegusus123456 posted...

Like yeah, your high school sweetheart dying in your arms isn't the best, but Holland Peter lost his uncle, got dusted for five years, lose his mentor, indirectly killed his aunt, then had his entire existence erased.

Holland loses Aunt May in the iconic scene, that's one of the things that sets him apart from the rest. We never see an Uncle Ben in his timeline and people noted how refreshing that was after the first movie because the other 2 made sure to include that and until No Way Home people thought he wouldn't even get the "great power" speech.

And that last one is his fault, so while it sucks it only happened cause he was trying to get into college, as Strange lambastes him for. Yeah, he was just being a dumb teen, but the worst thing Garfield did to make misfortune happen (ultimately Gwen's death) was just because he didn't remember 1 fanboy he said a sentence to after saving him. Like bro, he saves a lot of people, calm your tits, Max.

Kradek posted...

the worst thing Garfield did to make misfortune happen (ultimately Gwen's death) was just because he didn't remember 1 fanboy he said a sentence to after saving him

Well, there was also that time he promised her dying father he'd leave her alone when her dad said that being involved with him would get her killed.

And then he ended the movie with a flirty little "promises are made to be broken" thing

Prismsblade posted...

It was alright, same as the first, although the plot twist later concerning the cause of the shattering didn't make much sense. Whats so special about spiderman that certain events in his life absolutely had to happen to prevent the collapse of the freaking multiverse?

And why were said events so inconsistent? A peter has to become spiderman but not always, a peter has to die but not always, and the police chief of somebody close to them has to die except if they dont have one or they never become chief.....which shouldnt matter at all in regards to him having to die is enough to brake the cycle because....plot and so Miles can be in the right even though hes certainly not and just being selfish.

It's because Miles was never meant to be Spiderman. The spider that bit him wasn't even from his universe, so the universe that spider was from has no Spiderman. As the other universe shows he may have ultimately became the Prowler and the fact that the colors of his Universe were Prowler colors until he was bitten by the spider, which then became red & blue, helps support this.

pegusus123456 posted...

Well, there was also that time he promised her dying father he'd leave her alone when her dad said that being involved with him would get her killed.

Damn, that's an epic fail on my part.

Yeah, ok, he did ultimately lead to her death because he couldn't leave her alone.

Not that I blame him, if I was dating Emma Stone it'd be hard to stay away.

But I will say, he did try to keep her out of it by webbing her to a police car. She freed herself and then put herself in harm's way, had she stayed webbed to the cop car she likely would have survived.

Kradek posted...

It's because Miles was never meant to be Spiderman

I think this right here is kind of proof canon events aren't a thing. I imagine it can't get more canon that being bitten by a radioactive spider and neither Spider-Miles nor Prowler-Miles' universes collapsed.

Canon events are absolute turbo cope and ignorance on Miguel's part, didn't a canon event just get snipped into nonexistence without the universe imploding when Gwen's dad quit being a police captain.

If miles is not supposed to be a spider person, video game spiderman was there and there is a miles morales spiderman in his universe

maybe it just means that specific Miles wasn't supposed to be Spider-Man.

like, the "evil" Miles' universe doesn't have a Spider-Man, and that's why many believe his universe took a darker turn.

I think it's likely he was supposed to be the one to become Spider-Man, since the Miles we know comes from a universe that all already had one.

Blue_Popo posted...

If miles is not supposed to be a spider person, video game spiderman was there and there is a miles morales spiderman in his universe

It's specifically an issue with this Miles. Kingpin's work pulled a radioactive spider from another universe which created a cascade of events that fucked everything up.

In fact, you actually see in the flashback that the spider was about to bite Earth-42 Miles when it was pulled to Earth-1610.
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