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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 9:44:29 AM
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What is your opinion?

What is the intent with the use of the word chud?
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PurpleOutsider
03/01/24 9:46:39 AM
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It has more than one definition that I'm aware of, and I don't think any are positive.

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Damn_Underscore
03/01/24 9:48:47 AM
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Its jargon designed to be offensive to the in-group, meanwhile no one else even understands it

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ScazarMeltex
03/01/24 9:53:59 AM
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The only people who think that are the chuds themselves.

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 9:54:52 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
The only people who think that are the chuds themselves.

so if I called you a chud you would be like "yes you are correct Wingsofgood I am a chud" ?
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R1masher
03/01/24 9:55:11 AM
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Nah, Chad + stud = chud

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ArsGoetia
03/01/24 10:00:17 AM
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it just makes me think of clerks 2 and c.h.u.d.
and i like both those movies
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cuttin_in_farm
03/01/24 10:01:20 AM
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Its obviously flaming because the user is using it as an insult.

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Irony
03/01/24 10:03:20 AM
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That's like calling a fat person fat

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EndOfDiscOne
03/01/24 10:05:09 AM
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If it's in relation to someone's political opinions, it's fair game

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gatorsPENSbucs
03/01/24 10:13:36 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Its obviously flaming because the user is using it as an insult.


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ScazarMeltex
03/01/24 10:13:54 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
so if I called you a chud you would be like "yes you are correct Wingsofgood I am a chud" ?
I mean, no, I would think my views have made it pretty clear that I'm not a chud, but I also don't place a ton of stock in your opinion of me, so I'd probably be indifferent.

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 10:14:51 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
I would think my views have made it pretty clear that I'm not a chud,

what does views have to do with it? is there a meaning of chud that is different to you that means person has certain views?
and what if someone called you that anyways knowing you didn't have those views, is that not flaming?
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Devilanse333
03/01/24 10:19:57 AM
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Not really. The users who post chud all day are self tagging when they do it. The go-to BFG argument winner in their minds.

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MC_BatCommander
03/01/24 10:21:12 AM
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Nah

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Guide
03/01/24 10:23:50 AM
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Chud is slang for some spectrum of negative qualities. In what way could you call someone a chud and not have it be flaming?

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 10:24:41 AM
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Guide posted...
Chud is slang for some spectrum of negative qualities. In what way could you call someone a chud and not have it be flaming?


MC_BatCommander posted... (Moderator)
Nah


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ScazarMeltex
03/01/24 10:26:06 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
what does views have to do with it? is there a meaning of chud that is different to you that means person has certain views?
and what if someone called you that anyways knowing you didn't have those views, is that not flaming?
It's a descriptive slang term used to describe those of fascist or fascist apologetic political stances. So applying it to me would simply be inaccurate. It can be used as an insult, but here's the thing, chuds don't care. They wear it as a badge of pride.

If someone were to apply it to me inaccurately I would simply correct them and move on with my day. It's no more flaming than if I unknowingly referenced you as a different gender or ethnicity than what you actually are.

If after correction you were to continue to use it incorrectly it would become flaming or trolling just as it would in my above example.

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Guide
03/01/24 10:26:31 AM
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(Moderator)

Sure, but that doesn't answer my question.

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 10:27:38 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


what if you call a known leftist a chud? what if someone called you that?
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Were_Wyrm
03/01/24 10:29:05 AM
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ITT: chuds mad they're called out for their chuddery

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 10:29:41 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Nah
Well, if we have a mod confirming...

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Damn_Underscore
03/01/24 10:29:48 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
ITT: chuds mad they're called out for their chuddery

Whatever you say, chud

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 10:30:23 AM
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^ is that poster right wing or is this joke? or is the word just nonsense?
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Devilanse333
03/01/24 10:31:00 AM
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Ive been called one on here by one of the usuals. Even said he had receipts.

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AldousIsDead
03/01/24 10:31:31 AM
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Hit dogs hollerin up in here.

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R1masher
03/01/24 10:32:27 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
^ is that poster right wing or is this joke? or is the word just nonsense?

only chuds say chud

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 10:33:42 AM
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google says:

A gross, physically unappealing person
Noun. chud (plural chuds) (US, slang) A gross, physically unappealing person.
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Damn_Underscore
03/01/24 10:34:24 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
^ is that poster right wing or is this joke? or is the word just nonsense?

I was just joking, I dont know anything about the other poster

It definitely has a negative connotation though, you can hear it in the sound of the word

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ironman2009
03/01/24 10:34:28 AM
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I didn't even know it was a real word. Thought it was a gamefaqs exclusive term.

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 10:36:06 AM
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wait is this rooted in racism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chud

Chud or Chude (Old East Slavic: , Finnish: tuudi, Northern Sami: uhti) is a term historically applied in the early East Slavic annals to several Baltic Finnic peoples in the area of what is now Estonia, Karelia[1] and Northwestern Russia.[2] It has also been used to refer to other Finno-Ugric peoples.[3][4]
Arguably, the earliest attested written use of the word "Chuds" to describe Baltic Finnic peoples (presumably early Estonians) was c. 1100, in the earliest East Slavic chronicles.[5] According to the Primary Chronicle, the invading troops of Yaroslav I the Wise defeated "Chuds" in a battle in 1030 and then established the fort of "Yuryev" (in what is now Tartu, Estonia).
According to Old East Slavic chronicles, the Chuds were among the founders of the Rus' state.[5]

There are a number of hypotheses as to the origin of the term. Chud could be derived from the Slavic word tjudjo ('foreign' or 'strange'), which in turn is derived from the Gothic word meaning 'folk' (compare Teutonic). Another hypothesis is that the term was derived from a transformation of the Finno-Ugric name for the wood grouse. Yet another hypothesis contends that it is derived from the Sami word tshudde or ue, meaning an enemy or adversary (Finnish: vainolainen).[6][7] This, however, would have required prominent Sami presence in trading centers around Lake Ladoga.[7][8]

Chuds have traditionally been believed to belong to the group of Baltic-Finnic peoples, though there have been some debate as to which specific group. After the first encounter with the Chuds, Slavic people tended to call other Finnic-speaking peoples Chuds, and thus became a collective name for the Finno-Ugric neighbours in Russian cultural tradition. Many writers contend that the Chuds were Vepsians, Fasmer posits them in Karelia while Smirnov suggests the Setos are descendants of the Chuds.[6] In recent research on toponymy of the Luga and Volkhov river catchment areas Finnish fennougrist Pauli Rahkonen has come to the conclusion, that the language spoken in the area has been Finnic only in the vicinity of the southern coasts of Lake Ladoga and the Gulf of Finland, but more upstream of the two rivers, the language, as based on the evidence of hydronyms in the area, has represented other Finno-Ugric languages than Finnic.[9] However, the Zavoloshka Chuds in the White Sea catchment area seem to have spoken Finnic languages based on the evidence of substrate toponymy in northern Russia carried out recently by Finnish Finno-Ugrist Janne Saarikivi.[10]


Later, the word Chuds was more often used for more eastern Finnic peoples, Veps and Votes in particular, while some derivatives of chud like chukhna or chukhonets were applied to more western Finns and Estonians. Following the Russian conquests of Finland 17141809, and increasing contacts between Finns and Saint Petersburg, Finns perceived the word Chud to be disparaging and hinting at the serfdom that the Russians were believed to find fit for the Finns. However, as a disparaging word, it was rather chukhna that was applied also to Finns and Estonians as late as during the Winter War, 19391940, between the Soviet Union and Finland.[citation needed]
In present-day Russian vernacular, the word chukhna is often used to denote the Veps. The name Chuds (or Northern Chuds) has been used for Veps people also by some anthropologists.[citation needed]
In the mytho-poetical tradition of the Komi, the word chud can also designate Komi heroes and heathens; Old Believers; another people different from the Komi; or robbersthe latter two are the typical legends in Smi folklore. In fact, the legends about Chuds (uit) cover a large area in northern Europe from Scandinavia to the Urals, bounded by Lake Ladoga in the south, the northern and eastern districts of the Vologda province, and passing by the Kirov region, further into Komi-Permyak Okrug. It has from this area spread to Trans-Ural region through mediation of migrants from European North.[citation needed]
Chud has become a swear word in the Arkhangelsk region. As late as 1920, people of that region used legends of the Chuds to scare small naughty children.[6]
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Guide
03/01/24 10:36:09 AM
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ironman2009 posted...
I didn't even know it was a real word. Thought it was a gamefaqs exclusive term.

It's not. Or rather, it's mostly internet slang that will probably be adopted into the wider culture with time.

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PurpleOutsider
03/01/24 10:37:48 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
google says:

A gross, physically unappealing person
Noun. chud (plural chuds) (US, slang) A gross, physically unappealing person.
That's the one used in Clerks 2.

https://youtu.be/UU_FK7SunR8?si=h87a0zzJS7Y7DFjQ

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NoxObscuras
03/01/24 10:39:47 AM
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Hmm... Does this count as concern trolling?

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 10:52:16 AM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Hmm... Does this count as concern trolling?

that doesn't make any sense. do you know what concern trolling is?
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alfred_ashford
03/01/24 11:02:14 AM
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I always get modded for calling queefs queef so yeah chud is flaming. Its an insult. Just one that the loser mods think is acceptable.

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willythemailboy
03/01/24 11:02:39 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
what if you call a known leftist a chud? what if someone called you that?
I've been moderated for that.

WingsOfGood posted...
wait is this rooted in racism?
It's from the movie and means cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers. You're basically calling someone a subhuman.

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 11:04:41 AM
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willythemailboy posted...
It's from the movie and means cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers. You're basically calling someone a subhuman.

which movie?
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CSCA33
03/01/24 11:04:52 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
that doesn't make any sense. do you know what concern trolling is?
Its a fair question to ask after you tried to tie its usage here to unrelated early medieval period language, and claim its racist.

Urban dictionary is what youre looking for.

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Dungeater
03/01/24 11:05:16 AM
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imo yes even if only so i dont have to see it anymore

but also i do actually think its flaming

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willythemailboy
03/01/24 11:06:19 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
which movie?
C.H.U.D.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.H.U.D.

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WingsOfGood
03/01/24 11:06:39 AM
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CSCA33 posted...
Its a fair question to ask after you tried to tie its usage here to unrelated early medieval period language, and claim its racist.

Urban dictionary is what youre looking for.

people are giving different definitions so I look up the origin of the word

if you think that isn't the origin than give it

but that is also not what concern trolling is
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CSCA33
03/01/24 11:08:00 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
people are giving different definitions so I look up the origin of the word

if you think that isn't the origin than give it

but that is also not what concern trolling is
Personally I prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt, which is why I directed you to urban dictionary.

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CSCA33
03/01/24 11:11:49 AM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chud

the word has different usages, the context it is used on these forums is this one:
chud

a conservative republican. someone who is either racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, fascist, a bootlicker or all of the above.

I have personally never used the term because it can be easily mistaken for the other offensive usages or meanings

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:18:39 AM
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CSCA33 posted...
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chud

the word has different usages, the context it is used on these forums is this one:

I have personally never used the term because it can be easily mistaken for the other offensive usages or meanings
Well after Charlottesville I don't see a reason to differentiate any right wingers from one another anymore.

Trump continuing to paraphrase Hitler and still be the frontrunner only vindicates this.

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Xenogears15
03/01/24 11:22:08 AM
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I...did not expect an even split. Wow.

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