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Inviso
02/28/24 7:29:29 PM
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We've got Survivor starting in thirty minutes and no topic yet. Yikes! Here's the cast page: https://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/cast/

Jeff Probst's interview that led to the topic title: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/survivor-46-jeff-probst-villains-b2504267.html

Also, we've got the Amazing Race 36 cast out and coming up in a few weeks: https://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/cast/

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Chaeix
02/28/24 7:39:54 PM
#2:


this season of australian survivor is true chaotic gameplay

every episode is a clusterfuck of people trying to create insane split votes

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Blaziken
02/28/24 8:19:47 PM
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Thoughts pre-commercial break:

They have a LOT of faith in Tevin to give him that whole introductory monologue. Nami gets four confessionals in this segment, Yanu gets four, and meanwhile, Siga gets NO confessionals other than Charlie, and then Jem at the last moment before the commercial.

Nami BEASTED that challenge, too. Hunter looked like a really strong player in his heat, managing to run the course twice and putting Nami in the lead going into the puzzle (and that's before they beasted the puzzle too).

Also, it seemed like the tribes did a much better job on the "slide the flint up an elevated pole" portion of the challenge than in previous seasons.

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Blaziken
02/28/24 8:33:47 PM
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Man, BOTH tribes failed their sweat/savvy challenge, and not the double challenge like last season. I mean, admittedly, the savvy challenge was rough, since you had no word list and the numbers were designed to fool the players. But "Jelinsky" giving up before the halfway mark is NOT a good look for him, especially as one of the supposed tough guys on the tribe.

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Mewtwo59
02/28/24 8:35:44 PM
#5:


Yeah, Jalinsky was a wimp. Did Q even agree to quitting or did Jalinsky just throw the hourglass on his own?

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Blaziken
02/28/24 8:45:22 PM
#6:


So last season we had a montage of eighties dudebro music, and now we get a full Andy Griffith reference.

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Blaziken
02/28/24 8:54:45 PM
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Real battle of the sexes vibe so far. On multiple tribes. God though, can we NOT just compare people to Parvati as a justification for targeting them? There are other female winners. And you don't see men getting criticized in the same way.

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Blaziken
02/28/24 8:59:47 PM
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She's allergic to coconut and applied for Survivor?!

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Blaziken
02/28/24 9:05:47 PM
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Jelinsky has proven pathetic physically AND strategically now. Holy shit.

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Mewtwo59
02/28/24 9:06:16 PM
#10:


Jelinsky is so the first boot

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Mewtwo59
02/28/24 9:11:13 PM
#11:


... He didn't even mention Maria's threat?

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Blaziken
02/28/24 9:17:02 PM
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So Jelinsky has no vote, and now Tiffany has no vote until she finds the key for her idol box. I swear, if this majority alliance somehow managed to Vati themselves...I mean, it'd be funny as fuck, but still...Jesus.

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Mewtwo59
02/28/24 9:17:53 PM
#13:


I'd love it if the majority managed to Vati themselves, since Bhanu and Jess are my two favorites on that tribe.

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Mewtwo59
02/28/24 9:21:08 PM
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Did that TAR commercial just spoil something from the final leg?

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Blaziken
02/28/24 9:33:54 PM
#15:


Jesus, Nami is just DOMINANT. Holy shit, these first two challenges haven't even been close.

Meanwhile, how is Yanu this bad? They look like they should be stronger than this.

Jelinsky with the Brandon edit of failing three times in a single episode.

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Blaziken
02/28/24 9:45:31 PM
#16:


If Jess goes out first, it's a predictable first boot (young East Asian girl...it's a trend).

If Jelinsky goes out, this is an amazing first boot edit.

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Blaziken
02/28/24 9:58:44 PM
#17:


Man, I genuinely thought the edit was setting up Jelinsky as the fake-out and Jess was the obvious boot. But wow, he just managed to do EVERYTHING wrong that episode, holy shit.

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Mewtwo59
02/28/24 10:00:02 PM
#18:


He was Brandon if Hannah and Emily weren't on the same tribe.

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KateMarsh
02/28/24 10:28:29 PM
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I'd say he's even worse than Brandon.

Heck, I'm gonna go out and say it, I think Jelinsky might just be THE worst Survivor player of all time. I usually hear names like Wendy Jo or Amazon Janet thrown out for that title, but they were just kinda generically bad players who weren't good at anything. This kid was so aggressively terrible at every single aspect of the game and at every possible turn deliberately said and did the opposite of what good Survivor gameplay dictates, and then unironically tried to defend it all, actually believing it was good gameplay. One of the most deserving first boots ever and the edit absolutely massacring him at every turn made this such an enjoyable night of Survivor.

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KateMarsh
02/28/24 10:33:48 PM
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Blaziken posted...
I mean, admittedly, the savvy challenge was rough, since you had no word list and the numbers were designed to fool the players.
Maybe I'm armchair quarterbacking this, but as soon as I started seeing numbers written out among the letters I knew what the puzzle was.

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Mewtwo59
02/28/24 10:50:31 PM
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KateMarsh posted...
I'd say he's even worse than Brandon.

Heck, I'm gonna go out and say it, I think Jelinsky might just be THE worst Survivor player of all time. I usually hear names like Wendy Jo or Amazon Janet thrown out for that title, but they were just kinda generically bad players who weren't good at anything. This kid was so aggressively terrible at every single aspect of the game and at every possible turn deliberately said and did the opposite of what good Survivor gameplay dictates, and then unironically tried to defend it all, actually believing it was good gameplay. One of the most deserving first boots ever and the edit absolutely massacring him at every turn made this such an enjoyable night of Survivor.

I thought Zane was generally the consensus for worst Survivor player ever? But I can totally agree that Jelinksy gives Zane a run for his money.

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KateMarsh
02/28/24 10:59:37 PM
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I can KINDA see what Zane was doing. In a way, he took a big gamble and lost. If it had worked, it could have paid off in the long run. Jelinsky was just terrible.

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KateMarsh
02/29/24 10:06:47 AM
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Blaziken posted...
Meanwhile, how is Yanu this bad? They look like they should be stronger than this.
I agree. Lulu and whatever the purple tribe in 44 was called were clearly, at a glance, the weakest tribes of their respective seasons, but these tribes look pretty balanced, so it's weird to see them all so far apart in results.

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Mewtwo59
03/01/24 12:54:11 AM
#24:


I think the producers probably thought that Jelinksy would be stronger than he actually was. It's another situation like with Manu and Wardog.

And Tika wasn't really that bad, even after losing their strongest member to a fluke injury in the first challenge. It was after they lost Carson at the swap where it really started to fall apart.

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UnderUrMattress
03/02/24 4:10:48 AM
#25:


Came in here to roast Jelinsky.

I actually didn't hate this episode. Survivor has honestly gone to the dogs recently but I did like that they added a "mafia" element with the journey challenge. I'm really mad that Jelinsky folded though. The dude was in a four person alliance and they immediately turned on him over someone who couldn't form coherent sentences, so it just goes to show how terrible of a player he was.

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UnderUrMattress
03/02/24 4:19:54 AM
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Agree with darkx btw. The editing on him was great and he got served a nice slice of humble pie.

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KateMarsh
03/02/24 12:02:45 PM
#27:


UnderUrMattress posted...
they immediately turned on him over someone who couldn't form coherent sentences
This feels kind of unfair to say. I for one am always glad to see some neurodivergent representation on the show and I hope Jess actually finds her niche in this group and doesn't get treated the way many of them do.

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Mewtwo59
03/02/24 4:51:40 PM
#28:


Jess was kind of a mess with the whole not sleeping thing, but Jelinksy said in his interviews that he was both allergic to coconuts and lost his water bottle, so I'm not sure how much longer he could've lasted unless he pulled an Angelina and asked for Jess's water bottle.

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Chaeix
03/04/24 5:07:27 PM
#29:


I really can't recommend this season of Australian Survivor enough.

There is zero trust between anyone

It is a game of constant paranoia, shifting plans, and fun gameplay. And I've commented prior that there was one person with a clear winner edit but I think there are a few serious contenders now and it's going to be an exciting finish.

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UnderUrMattress
03/05/24 4:37:54 AM
#30:


KateMarsh posted...
This feels kind of unfair to say. I for one am always glad to see some neurodivergent representation on the show and I hope Jess actually finds her niche in this group and doesn't get treated the way many of them do.
nah i'm all for nd players. she was just clearly sleep deprived and couldn't think properly. and was on the outs of pretty much any alliance. Jelinsky just sucked that badly to where such an easy target was spared. i am actually rooting for Jess as well, and maybe being stuck with such a dunce will be her saving grace. sorry if that came out the wrong way

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UnderUrMattress
03/05/24 4:44:27 AM
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Chaeix posted...
I really can't recommend this season of Australian Survivor enough.

There is zero trust between anyone

It is a game of constant paranoia, shifting plans, and fun gameplay. And I've commented prior that there was one person with a clear winner edit but I think there are a few serious contenders now and it's going to be an exciting finish.
i've heard pretty good things about Australian Survivor as well. is there a place to watch it for free (without risk of virus eating up computer lol).

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Chaeix
03/06/24 5:59:50 PM
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UnderUrMattress posted...
i've heard pretty good things about Australian Survivor as well. is there a place to watch it for free (without risk of virus eating up computer lol).
i usually scour the aus survivor subreddit but obviously i can't give links

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Blaziken
03/06/24 8:31:38 PM
#33:


People play WAY too damn hard early on...like, why did you need to do that, Kenzie?

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Blaziken
03/06/24 8:50:36 PM
#34:


Nami's cockiness is fucking delightful. I love seeing some friction between tribes and between players on the show.

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Mewtwo59
03/06/24 8:50:48 PM
#35:


Jelinsky still catching strays

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BlueCrystalTear
03/06/24 8:55:53 PM
#36:


I am way behind because my dad jilted me. We just watched the premiere on Monday. (The wreck of Jelinsky was certainly something! The editors had a lot of fun with him, too.)

Randen finding the idol is UGH. Venus is great - yes part of that is because she's hot - but that does not make her Parvati 2.0. Randen labeling her that because he could never end up with her is horrendous.

Other favorites include Bhanu, Jess, Maria, and... I think that's it. Tevin maybe for that opening montage? It's early, it's hard to know who I truly like.

Kenzie went from having a winner's overture to being a boot edit. I was thinking the alternative was that she's out next.

And despite the flashbacky nonsense, this episode has had plenty of fun camp scenes! This Metallica vs. T-Swift thing is hilarious.

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Blaziken
03/06/24 9:00:51 PM
#37:


This challenge seems REALLY hard.

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Mewtwo59
03/06/24 9:10:55 PM
#38:


I think Yanu was just too short to pull that off. Jelinsky being a loser strikes again

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BlueCrystalTear
03/06/24 9:11:16 PM
#39:


Blaziken posted...
This challenge seems REALLY hard.
The hardest part is probably the puzzle.

It was hard enough last season with ONE person stacking a miniature version of it but getting five people on the same page... even harder.

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Blaziken
03/06/24 9:12:55 PM
#40:


Mewtwo59 posted...
I think Yanu was just too short to pull that off. Jelinsky being a loser strikes again

I think it stands out, looking at them all standing as a group...Bhanu is the tallest member of the tribe? Yet he was stationed at the shortest part of the puzzle, leaving all the short women to try and hold more pieces up themselves.

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Mewtwo59
03/06/24 9:16:36 PM
#41:


It looked like they put Jess there first and kicked her off at some point. Still, should've been Tiffany there instead of Bhanu.

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Blaziken
03/06/24 9:19:17 PM
#42:


LOL Nami wins and they still have fucking drama. Love it.

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Blaziken
03/06/24 9:22:16 PM
#43:


Oh my God, the idol grab from last episode makes a return in a flashback, as an actual plot point. Fucking AMAZING.

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BlueCrystalTear
03/06/24 9:24:27 PM
#44:


I think Venus is being set up to mutiny to another tribe... or something like that.

Also I am starting to not like Tevin because he's just dismissing her injury as irrelevant and her as "drama." Hello? If you got hurt and nobody cared, wouldn't you feel gaslit?

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Mewtwo59
03/06/24 9:24:39 PM
#45:


Oh, they found Jelinsky's water bottle

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BlueCrystalTear
03/06/24 9:26:09 PM
#46:


Blaziken posted...
LOL Nami wins and they still have fucking drama. Love it.

Blaziken posted...
Oh my God, the idol grab from last episode makes a return in a flashback, as an actual plot point. Fucking AMAZING.
Both of these also.

I love the drama, even if I don't like one side worsening it.

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Blaziken
03/06/24 9:26:34 PM
#47:


This scene is fucking hilarious. Tiffany is pointing Jess towards the idol, and she's just...not seeing it or not trying.

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Mewtwo59
03/06/24 9:29:07 PM
#48:


Should've hidden it more in plain sight rather than just sticking it where the real idol was.

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Blaziken
03/06/24 9:30:26 PM
#49:


I'm loving how much negativity there is this episode. So many mean-spirited characters makes for more interesting television than a bunch of positive sob stories.

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BlueCrystalTear
03/06/24 9:31:56 PM
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Yeah, Kenzie is definitely overplaying. She thinks she's this genius strategist but then she does things like telling Tiffany "there's no time to vent, let's talk about Tribal."

Tiffany is also being transparently sketchy with Jess. It would be incredible if Jess got Bhanu and Q to blindside Kenzie. Tiffany's jaw would hit the floor. Especially if Jess plays the fake idol on top of that and they go from laughing to WTF. That may be an all-time blindside just because of the sheer drama.

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