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ThePieReborn
02/28/24 5:19:15 PM
#201:


Starks posted...
They just want some finality and put it in writing. At the same time though, they could have told Trump to fuck off with a shadow docket ruling.

I wouldn't expect the oral arguments to be fun for Trump or his lawyers.
This is where I'm at. I don't think this is something that the Court would want to not thoroughly address. I'd love to say "dismantle" instead of "address," but an affirmance is not carved in stone despite all historical traditions indicating otherwise.

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CableZL
02/28/24 5:28:11 PM
#202:


https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1762961048708038997

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CableZL
02/28/24 5:36:27 PM
#203:


ThePieReborn posted...
These people don't understand how the appellate standards of review work.
I think one of the things I'm frustrated about in society today is that Trump supporters don't seem to understand much of anything. They've been so misinformed by right wing media and they refuse to accept any new information, nor do they seem to have the capability or willingness to understand nuance.

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Ruvan22
02/28/24 5:47:01 PM
#204:


Starks posted...
They just want some finality and put it in writing. At the same time though, they could have told Trump to fuck off with a shadow docket ruling.

I wouldn't expect the oral arguments to be fun for Trump or his lawyers.

Whether the SC would take the case was a big debate here, I suppose if nothing else we've answered that question.
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Alucard188
02/28/24 5:47:19 PM
#205:


I'm fine for the Supreme Court to issue a official ruling on this unprecedented case. There needs to be precedent set that no president can have absolute immunity from breaking the law. I don't expect them to be so short-sighted as they stay along Republican and Democratic party lines. They just can't. What's good for the goose is good for the gander in this case. Do you want to see the dissolution of your Republic? Kowtow to Trump and his cronies and see what happens.

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solosnake
02/28/24 5:50:33 PM
#206:


Its probably a bad thing that the supreme court decided to hear the case.

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02/28/24 6:01:44 PM
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DragulaRULEZ
02/28/24 6:34:05 PM
#207:


Watch what you're doing robes, Biden could legally inform good people about where The Supreme Court Building is located.

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Kradek
02/28/24 6:37:34 PM
#208:


ThePieReborn posted...
This is where I'm at. I don't think this is something that the Court would want to not thoroughly address. I'd love to say "dismantle" instead of "address," but an affirmance is not carved in stone despite all historical traditions indicating otherwise.

The problem with this is Smith already sent his arguments against it to them weeks if not a month ago and the USSC intentionally put the case on hold so that 2 months from now they'll start deliberations on the case. Smith tried to save time in case they did take it up and they faxed him back a middle finger.

They're clearly stalling for Trump's benefit as the new timelines would likely place the trial too close to the election for DOJ's comfort, when if not for their fuckery it would have been happening in summer.

They could have already been hearing this case 3 weeks ago, they took their time to respond AND THEN added a 2 month wait to proceed.

I've also been hearing people of the legal world saying it indicates they want to agree and disagree with some of his argument as they didn't just wholly dismiss it.

Clearly corrupt sacks of shit on the court.

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Tyranthraxus
02/28/24 7:05:12 PM
#209:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
Supreme Court def gonna give Trump Immunity why else would they hear the case
Courts literally never rule to give themselves less power.

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EPR-radar
02/28/24 7:08:41 PM
#210:


Kradek posted...
The problem with this is Smith already sent his arguments against it to them weeks if not a month ago and the USSC intentionally put the case on hold so that 2 months from now they'll start deliberations on the case. Smith tried to save time in case they did take it up and they faxed him back a middle finger.

They're clearly stalling for Trump's benefit as the new timelines would likely place the trial too close to the election for DOJ's comfort, when if not for their fuckery it would have been happening in summer.

They could have already been hearing this case 3 weeks ago, they took their time to respond AND THEN added a 2 month wait to proceed.

I've also been hearing people of the legal world saying it indicates they want to agree and disagree with some of his argument as they didn't just wholly dismiss it.

Clearly corrupt sacks of shit on the court.
This. I don't think this SCOTUS majority would rule in favor of Trump's immunity, but they are clearly causing unnecessary delay to benefit Trump.

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solosnake
02/28/24 7:10:24 PM
#211:


They likely know exactly how long they needed to delay to put the trial date back far enough to make it too late. I wouldnt be surprised if a few of them got a check from Trump/Russia either

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Kradek
02/28/24 7:11:01 PM
#212:


EPR-radar posted...
This. I don't think this SCOTUS majority would rule in favor of Trump's immunity, but they are clearly causing unnecessary delay to benefit Trump.

It's possible they officially establish that President's have immunity while conducting legitimate acts in the name of the office, which if so will be the real test of their integrity (not holding my breath) as Trump has claimed that him trying to steal the election was part of his official duties.

solosnake posted...
They likely know exactly how long they needed to delay to put the trial date back far enough to make it too late. I wouldnt be surprised if a few of them got a check from Trump/Russia either

There's plenty of wealthy Americans bankrolling Trump who could have "donated" to them that already have a history of donating to them. Trump certainly doesn't have the money, he was crying today in court about how he'd have to sell property to cover his judgment from the NY fraud case. Russia would hack their devices and blackmail/threaten them if they were involved, no need to pay them.

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toreysback
02/28/24 7:14:45 PM
#214:


i suppose one could argue that the best outcome for trump would be to lose the immunity decision then win the election

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CableZL
02/28/24 7:15:50 PM
#215:


https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1762994525969256501

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ClayGuida
02/28/24 7:17:11 PM
#216:


Putting Trump's corruption on the ballot in November could be huge for Democrat turnout.

"Elect Biden and Democrats and Trump goes to jail" is a hell of a reason to vote.

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Kradek
02/28/24 7:22:48 PM
#217:


toreysback posted...
i suppose one could argue that the best outcome for trump would be to lose the immunity decision then win the election

What? The best case is clearly him winning both. Biden wouldn't become a tyrant just because the USSC says he's now covered from everything so can be an inhumane tyrant. He's not someone who would put it into practice, Trump would be having day 1 executions of SNL cast members within their own homes.

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toreysback
02/28/24 7:50:22 PM
#218:


ya, but if if trumpo wins but presidential immunity is upheld, what does biden do between nov and jan, when he can act with complete immunity?

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solosnake
02/28/24 7:51:29 PM
#219:


toreysback posted...
ya, but if if trumpo wins but presidential immunity is upheld, what does biden do between nov and jan, when he can act with complete immunity?
To me, it feels like the dems will lay down to the impending fascist takeover

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Amakusa
02/28/24 7:53:34 PM
#220:


toreysback posted...
ya, but if if trumpo wins but presidential immunity is upheld, what does biden do between nov and jan, when he can act with complete immunity?
You know, something to also consider is if the President is immune, that doesn't necessarily extend to his subordinates. There is an actual difference between issuing an illegal order and carrying out one.

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Kradek
02/28/24 8:00:56 PM
#222:


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Trial? That's probably when they'll announce their decision, if we're lucky.

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Alucard188
02/28/24 8:15:15 PM
#223:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1762965861223059951?t=etsKWKyMzylgyS2m531jpQ&s=19

Nothing in this is surprising. Give Donald Trump a chance to elucidate on why he should be declared immune, and give in no uncertain terms the final say in this unprecedented act.

https://twitter.com/7Veritas4/status/1763007943115415621?t=KNpSgcCnilE6wJROKSNUEA&s=19

Also not wrong.

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MistyKnight
02/28/24 8:20:46 PM
#224:


Lol this guy

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SunburnCostanza
02/28/24 8:31:42 PM
#225:


Trump's trial likely getting delayed until after he has a chance to pardon himself - because we need the Supreme Court to decide whether former presidents can have elder god powers for life

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Alucard188
02/28/24 8:44:42 PM
#226:


https://youtu.be/He0IU4-lo40?si=MzKUPH5bhC_hSeKc

Very valid opinions here. SCOTUS appears to be slow-walking this decison to help Trump, but fast-tracks it when faced with a decision that can hurt him. They want to be the final arbiters, but they could have been the final arbiters back in December. They could have been the final arbiters shortly after the appeal. They don't have to stretch it out until April. This is what they are doing purposefully.

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EPR-radar
02/28/24 9:03:44 PM
#227:


Alucard188 posted...
https://youtu.be/He0IU4-lo40?si=MzKUPH5bhC_hSeKc

Very valid opinions here. SCOTUS appears to be slow-walking this decison to help Trump, but fast-tracks it when faced with a decision that can hurt him. They want to be the final arbiters, but they could have been the final arbiters back in December. They could have been the final arbiters shortly after the appeal. They don't have to stretch it out until April. This is what they are doing purposefully.
This SCOTUS majority is utterly corrupt. The Taney court (infamous for the Dred Scott decision) is no longer the worst SCOTUS ever.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/28/24 9:28:41 PM
#228:


And the only way to fix it is to wait for these fuckers to die, at which point the damage is already done.

What a shitty fucking country

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Kradek
02/28/24 9:31:15 PM
#229:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
And the only way to fix it is to wait for these fuckers to die, at which point the damage is already done.

What a shitty fucking country

I heard a horrifying thing stated earlier.

If Trump gets in then what if Thomas & Alito retire, allowing Trump to put 5 relatively young judges (total) on the bench?

I hope the people who didn't see the risk of losing the court in 2016 have woken the fuck up cause I don't think the country would survive that.


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-Crissaegrim-
02/28/24 11:21:56 PM
#230:


GranAures posted...
If being forced sell your properties is going to cause you "irreparable harm" then maybe you shouldn't do things that may later require you to be forced to sell?

So he was inflating his worth under oath? Maybe another fraud case?

This is also the same dickwad that recently said to the world, "Pay your bills or I'll let Russia invade".

He is such a fucking clown.

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darkace77450
02/29/24 8:49:35 AM
#231:


mybbqrules posted...
Boy, it's almost like Donald Trump is a serial f***ing liar about literally everything.

The man who drew on a weather map with a sharpie and called Tim Cook "Tim Apple" to "save time" is a pathological liar? No way!

CADE_FOSTER posted...
Supreme Court def gonna give Trump Immunity why else would they hear the case

The timing of this has me thinking they're trying to delay the trial - a federal trial - so it won't happen before the election, meaning he can quash it or pardon himself if he wins.

jefffan posted...
I (hope) the Supreme Court is only taking this in to put it on the record that no one is immune from prosecution.

If that was their goal, they wouldn't have rejected Smith's December '23 request to expedite a ruling.

Kradek posted...
Trump has claimed that him trying to steal the election was part of his official duties.

He once claimed defaming E. Jean Carroll was part of his official duty as POTUS and thus presidential immunity meant he can't be sued. Thankfully justice was served in that case, at least.
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Tyranthraxus
02/29/24 9:09:14 AM
#232:


darkace77450 posted...
He once claimed defaming E. Jean Carroll was part of his official duty as POTUS and thus presidential immunity meant he can't be sued. Thankfully justice was served in that case, at least.

Carrol never sued over anything he said while president for that reason.

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Cynyn
02/29/24 9:13:13 AM
#233:


-Crissaegrim- posted...
This is also the same dickwad that recently said to the world, "Pay your bills or I'll let Russia invade".

He is such a fucking clown.
I would die if in addition to tweeting every day how much Trump owes in his NY judgement Leticia James also posted Junkyard Willie telling Trump to Pay yo bills!
https://youtu.be/U-PQQX4Itzk?si=nG3IUAfU5NThYp5M

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CableZL
02/29/24 10:31:23 AM
#234:


Outside of January 6th arrests and court cases, I'm not sure anything is slated to happen for the next few weeks. Edit: The Georgia RICO case bullshit about Fani Willis is still going on, I guess. Another hearing tomorrow for arguments. Not sure when the judge expects to rule there.

25 more days until Trump's first criminal trial.

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Block_that_Kick
02/29/24 10:40:31 AM
#235:


Dumb question: Does the stay for the immunity claim apply to the Georgia RICO case as well? I know it stops the federal cases against Trump, but what about on the state level?

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Tyranthraxus
02/29/24 10:47:00 AM
#236:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Dumb question: Does the stay for the immunity claim apply to the Georgia RICO case as well? I know it stops the federal cases against Trump, but what about on the state level?
That trial isn't going to start until next year regardless so nothing happens.

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CableZL
02/29/24 1:55:39 PM
#237:


https://twitter.com/JordanOnRecord/status/1763275247803834601

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Rexdragon125
02/29/24 1:57:47 PM
#238:


The president doesn't have the power to forgive student loans but he probably is allowed to stage a coup. Cool court
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CableZL
02/29/24 2:00:32 PM
#239:


I still doubt the supreme court is going to say Trump has immunity. I think they just want to make an authoritative decision on the matter.

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Starks
02/29/24 2:00:44 PM
#240:


Watch this guy violate probation for Jan 6, 2025. He's learned nothing during the credited time.

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Rexdragon125
02/29/24 2:06:38 PM
#241:


CableZL posted...
I still doubt the supreme court is going to say Trump has immunity. I think they just want to make an authoritative decision on the matter.
Well, yeah, they're helping daddy Trump delay
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Shadow_Don
02/29/24 2:15:30 PM
#242:


Kradek posted...
I hope the people who didn't see the risk of losing the court in 2016 have woken the fuck up cause I don't think the country would survive that.

Those would be the same dipshits who plan on sitting this election because they think it will help people in Gaza.


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mybbqrules
02/29/24 3:17:40 PM
#243:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/JordanOnRecord/status/1763275247803834601
"Time for you to grow up! Here's a slap on the wrist for literal treason!"

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Tyranthraxus
02/29/24 3:23:09 PM
#244:


That dude looks like his dad owns a dealership

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SunburnCostanza
02/29/24 3:23:31 PM
#245:


CableZL posted...
I still doubt the supreme court is going to say Trump has immunity. I think they just want to make an authoritative decision on the matter.

For sure. It's more the delay that's the issue.

If they ruled for presidential immunity Biden could send out the attack dogs on Trump

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Block_that_Kick
02/29/24 3:52:06 PM
#246:


mybbqrules posted...
"Time for you to grow up! Here's a slap on the wrist for literal treason!"

Like Trump, the man is a narcissist. He believes he did nothing wrong that day, and it is him who is the real victim.

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02/29/24 4:02:29 PM
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ClayGuida
02/29/24 4:57:39 PM
#247:


mybbqrules posted...
"Time for you to grow up! Here's a slap on the wrist for literal treason!"
Pretty ridiculous honestly, throw the book at him. What did prosecutors want? Whatever they wanted should have been the base line, then add on more time for his shenanigans.

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Kradek
02/29/24 5:21:20 PM
#248:


Shadow_Don posted...
Those would be the same dipshits who plan on sitting this election because they think it will help people in Gaza.

There's definitely overlap.

darkace77450 posted...
He once claimed defaming E. Jean Carroll was part of his official duty as POTUS and thus presidential immunity meant he can't be sued. Thankfully justice was served in that case, at least.

Huh, don't remember him doing that, however it's definitely some shit he would do.

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ClayGuida
02/29/24 5:25:05 PM
#250:


Kradek posted...
There's definitely overlap.

Huh, don't remember him doing that, however it's definitely some shit he would do.
iirc Garland's DOJ was arguing this in court, which is even worse.

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