Current Events > If KOSA becomes law, will you give any sites your ID?

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Only essential sites. As much as I enjoy using GameFAQs, I would stop using it. The security risk seems way too high. I feel like identity fraud will skyrocket if KOSA is fully implemented.

I don't have an ID.

Nope, I'm "moving" to Denmark or some place.

JoeDangIt posted...

I don't have an ID.

Everyone has ID. You don't have a state ID, even if you don't drive?

Theres no way this passes the current House. Right?

JoeDangIt posted...

I don't have an ID.

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Actually lost mine too

I've yet to need to in the uk as no way to actually implement these laws

Lol no.

I'd get a fake ID if there was no way around using ID for the internet.

Man, as a lifelong teetotaler, I'm just imagining teenage me hearing that adult me needs to acquire a fake ID to use the internet and laughing my/his ass off

ll stop using the internet and get rid of my smart phone

I hope that never passes. Just another bullshit law that uses protecting children as a scapegoat to get the control they actually want

bros i already gave my id to this site to get unbanned (i joked about being underaged. the im 12 and what is this meme). i was like 16 or 17 years old at the time. i wasn't thinking straight

at least that ID is very outdated and from a different country too. possibly obscured some details but idr too well. teenage me was a different person. holy shit i hope to god i at least ms painted over my name omfg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i still wonder if a mod here knows my details. scary af thinking about it

gamefaqs will not survive this. they did it. they targeted gamers and won

I will just use a fake id. I won't even use an American id. I'll like use a scan from fucking Monaco or some shit.

But anyway I will never share my id ever again for sure

I like can't even log into my VA account thing cuz it asking for id verification
So bs

Zero chance.

Ratchetrockon posted...

But anyway I will never share my id ever again for sure

I like can't even log into my VA account thing cuz it asking for id verification
So bs

Ok this is taking it too far IMO.

Im not going to hand out my ID to every site that asks for it, especially if its a site like gamefaqs or even youtube that I just browse casually. But if thats how you feel why are you even on the internet? If youve ever bought something online they dont know your full identity but they know a lot of it. Have you ever had a fingerprint scan or something like that to get a job? That is no different than sharing your ID. Given that the government is the one that manages all these IDs, they already know all your information.

Will this be for all sites, or just sites that ask for it?

streamofthesky posted...

I'd get a fake ID if there was no way around using ID for the internet.

Man, as a lifelong teetotaler, I'm just imagining teenage me hearing that adult me needs to acquire a fake ID to use the internet and laughing my/his ass off

I'm not sure a fake ID works in this situation. This isn't handing a physical card to a bouncer who just reads it with his eyes. They probably have serial codes or something that prove if an ID is real. Gamefaqs might even be looking at your social security number

The_Popo posted...

Only essential sites. As much as I enjoy using GameFAQs, I would stop using it. The security risk seems way too high. I feel like identity fraud will skyrocket if KOSA is fully implemented.

Gamefaqs won't be requiring it. It's nothing but us old timers here.

Kids have YouTube to beat video games now.

Just create an AI generated fake ID. Nobody is going to be looking at that anyways to confirm who you are.

PoopPotato posted...

Will this be for all sites, or just sites that ask for it?

All. This effects the entire internet, at least if you are American. I think they can block foreign websites to US IP addresses, even if the website doesn't takeout in this law. And all US based sites will be shut down if they don't comply and ask for ID

Nota214 posted...

Just create an AI generated fake ID. Nobody is going to be looking at that anyways to confirm who you are.

Again, this won't work. I think they check everything. Social security number. And all kinds of security systems fo verify an ID. They match it with the federal database. You aren't going to trick your way out of this

not giving my ID, and I dont think its enforceable in truth. How many websites are there online?

Zikten posted...

Again, this won't work. I think they check everything. Social security number. And all kinds of security systems fo verify an ID. They match it with the federal database. You aren't going to trick your way out of this

I highly doubt they're going to give porn sites access to every federal / state database to check this shit and additionally not everyone who uses porn sites is from America.

Couldnt just use a VPN to be from a country without this bullshit law?

I honestly think this has a very low chance of passing but I think the level of fear for just how disastrous of a bill this'd be is warranted and I really don't want to be proven wrong or jinx it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c8edae35.jpg

Tyranthraxus posted...

I highly doubt they're going to give porn sites access to every federal / state database to check this shit and additionally not everyone who uses porn sites is from America.

Yeah, as stupid as this law is, giving your fucking SSN to any website that you go to is a still like 10 levels of stupid even beyond that. It'd be a security nightmare.

But hey if it does happen, it sounds like a pretty easy way to scrape SSNs from people to use for scams, just start a porn site and let the PII roll in!
Congress aren't tyrants, they're job creators!
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This is going to practically destroy the internet and bankrupt a ton of sites. Why does Congress and Biden want to pass this so bad?

Oh yeah, most of them grew up with black and white TVs. Dinosaurs.

That said I've been reading this bill and I don't see shit about requirements to upload any kind of ID to anything.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1409/text?format=txt

While uploading IDs could be used to remain in compliance with the law, that doesn't seem like a requirement. The only requirement is "reasonable protection"

It's a shit law regardless but I think heralding this as the end of the Internet is a little premature.

Tyranthraxus posted...

That said I've been reading this bill and I don't see shit about requirements to upload any kind of ID to anything.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1409/text?format=txt

While uploading IDs could be used to remain in compliance with the law, that doesn't seem like a requirement. The only requirement is "reasonable protection"

It's a shit law regardless but I think heralding this as the end of the Internet is a little premature.

This bill is all about verification. How do your verify yourself without an ID?

GiftedACIII posted...

This bill is all about verification. How do your verify yourself without an ID?

It's not all about verification though? As far as I can tell the only age verification statute is that websites must implement an "age gate" Lots of sites already do that by asking you for your birthday.

The stuff about device based age identification is an open discussion and not a requirement or even guaranteed to happen, and nothing is said about having IDs or other PII given to websites.

Section 9 is about ID.

You're right that it doesn't say this bill is actually implementing a requirement. What the bill is doing is mandating several studies to be performed about it.

If ID has to be implemented, it really needs to be at the device level and hope that Apple or Samsung or Windows are going to safeguard that shit. Trying to put the burden on individual sites will bankrupt 99% of the internet and cause the privacy nightmares that people are worried about.

It can't be feasible to actually check every ID. At best, you'd just need a proper barcode on it which can easily be generated. With AI, it would take seconds

I'll be finding a way around it or I'll just stop using the websites requiring it.

I don't even use my real name / birthday when signing up for websites.

Zikten posted...

Everyone has ID. You don't have a state ID, even if you don't drive?

Im going to assume youre not American, because the entire concept of universally provided state IDs is one of the big arguing points around Voter ID laws. Since states dont automatically issue ID cards, several red states have pushed to make an ID a requirement for voting while simulatenously shuttering or restricting the hours of DMVs in higher population areas more likely to vote Democratic.

So no, a lot of people dont have a state ID because lots of states make it very difficult to get access to them.

https://www.stopkosa.com/

Funkydog posted...

I've yet to need to in the uk as no way to actually implement these laws

Im interested to see how this would affect people outside the US. Id like to think that given how many important things are based in the US, holding those things hostage by expecting the entire world (sans China) to adhere to US law is something that wouldnt happen, but nowadays nothing surprises me.

Also, its only a matter of time before Australia notices this and says hey, lets do something similar.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Im interested to see how this would affect people outside the US. Id like to think that given how many important things are based in the US, holding those things hostage by expecting the entire world (sans China) to adhere to US law is something that wouldnt happen, but nowadays nothing surprises me.

Also, its only a matter of time before Australia notices this and says hey, lets do something similar.

Given how GDPR made countries outside Europe abide by it, I imagine they plan for it to work similarly.

Just like the UK wants WhatsApp etc to follow similar laws to what America wants to implement but refuses to help or say how to do it.